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[Alekzander Smirnoff]

By bringing LRM's back to acceptable levels I no longer poke my head out for one second only to have it vaporized by 12 orbs of burning plasmatic death. I don't even think you needed to bump the recycle to 4 seconds but that was nice too.

The AMS change was nice too, makes the incoming missile spam less of a problem for my lance mates and myself!

Keep up the good work!

[AnnoyingCat]

ALERT! A POSITIVE PERSON IN THE FORUM!

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

RUN! GET TO THE CHOPPER!

[AnnoyingCat]

RUN FOR THE HILLS!

[Livewyr]

I dunno what you think you're trying to do here, but you're wrong.

Because.

[Keifomofutu]

So basically the game is now just great because there is a different easymode way to smack down brawlers?

[Mr 144]

There's still brawlers?

[AntiCitizenJuan]

Hope you're not crying when they implement cockpit shake for pop-potatos

[LordBraxton]

What is a brawler?

The one who uses PPCs instead of ERPPCs?

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

I brawl just fine, there's plenty of cover, don't be an ***** and charge in first. Go around, hell use the thing between your ears. PGI messes up some things but this isn't one of them.

Every change prompts over use from what has been changed. Deal with it, I have no sympathy for those that whine.

Again PGI thanks for making this game better one patch and hot fix at at a time!

[LordBraxton]

Brawlers won't be viable until SRMs stop being garbage

don't wave your epeen around at me and tell me to L2P.

Been around since CB and I know how to wreck enemy teams by myself.

And (currently) the way to do that is smart use of long range builds Period.

I can tell this forum is full of 30-40 somethings with no life because of how arrogant and condescending people can be

Edited by LordBraxton, 24 May 2013 - 04:33 PM.

[Livewyr]

Keifomofutu, on 24 May 2013 - 04:19 PM, said:

So basically the game is now just great because there is a different easymode way to smack down brawlers?

Umm.. if the brawler has no ranged weapons.. anything outside his range is easymode...
Like holding a swinging and wailing kid back by his forehead.

What is your point here?

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To be clear, I have a wonderful Atlas D setup that does range, support, and brawling.. fairly efficiently.

2ALRMx15s for support/range
1ERLL for range/punch
2Med lasers and an AC20 for short range.

Will it do as well at brawling as the iconic D-DC from the brawling meta? no
Will it do as well at range as a 6PPC stalker? no

Will it laugh at the D-DC forced to hide or be punished for having no ranged weapons? yes.
Will it laugh at the PPC stalker forced into a brawl? emphatic yes.

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With the missile speed adjustment, the age of the viable mixed load mech is returning...

Me favorite thing to see is 5-6 mechs on my team all turning and sending 15-20 LRMs at a spotted target.
That is called: "support"

Edited by Livewyr, 24 May 2013 - 04:40 PM.

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

SRM damage is usable enough with mechs that fit 2+ launchers are fine. So what if you've been here since CB, I've not and I have a lot less to complain about it appears.

I'll be the first to admit I am a lousy player, 3-4 kill matches are few and far between for me but I usually manage 3-500 damage in whatever I happen to be piloting but I have my less than 100 and greater than 800 matches as well.

I'm also incredibly laid back so I don't slap my extrodinarily small epeen around unless it is warranted.

My favorite mech at the moment is a HGN-733c with the ac/20, 2ML, and 3xSRM 6+A. One jump jet for mobility and a standard 310 engine. I trash other mechs so by no means do SRMs require much of a boost. Maybe in the single launcher area, sure but large quantities of them, they do not need more than a 0.3 damage boost.

I started this thread as a thanks and would like to keep it light. Sorry if my last post offended but take it as is, brawling is fine. SRM damage boost will break it unless they change splash damage.

[LordBraxton]

Livewyr, on 24 May 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

Umm.. if the brawler has no ranged weapons.. anything outside his range is easymode...
Like holding a swinging and wailing kid back by his forehead.

What is your point here?

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To be clear, I have a wonderful Atlas D setup that does range, support, and brawling.. fairly efficiently.

2ALRMx15s for support/range
1ERLL for range/punch
2Med lasers and an AC20 for short range.

Will it do as well at brawling as the iconic D-DC from the brawling meta? no
Will it do as well at range as a 6PPC stalker? no

Will it laugh at the D-DC forced to hide or be punished for having no ranged weapons? yes.
Will it laugh at the PPC stalker forced into a brawl? emphatic yes.

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With the missile speed adjustment, the age of the viable mixed load mech is returning...

Me favorite thing to see is 5-6 mechs on my team all turning and sending 15-20 LRMs at a spotted target.
That is called: "support"

no that is called being

a jack of all trades

master of none

The 6PPC stalker will laugh at you when he sees you on alpine

the Brawler will laugh at you when he comes around the corner 180 meters away

but don't worry nobody brawls anymore

Alekzander Smirnoff, on 24 May 2013 - 04:47 PM, said:

SRM damage is usable enough with mechs that fit 2+ launchers are fine. So what if you've been here since CB, I've not and I have a lot less to complain about it appears.

I'll be the first to admit I am a lousy player, 3-4 kill matches are few and far between for me but I usually manage 3-500 damage in whatever I happen to be piloting but I have my less than 100 and greater than 800 matches as well.

I'm also incredibly laid back so I don't slap my extrodinarily small epeen around unless it is warranted.

My favorite mech at the moment is a HGN-733c with the ac/20, 2ML, and 3xSRM 6+A. One jump jet for mobility and a standard 310 engine. I trash other mechs so by no means do SRMs require much of a boost. Maybe in the single launcher area, sure but large quantities of them, they do not need more than a 0.3 damage boost.

I started this thread as a thanks and would like to keep it light. Sorry if my last post offended but take it as is, brawling is fine. SRM damage boost will break it unless they change splash damage.

There is NO BRAWLING

like... its GONE

that is fine?

sometimes I think the gameplay in different brackets must be completely different

I dont even SEE brawlers.

Edited by LordBraxton, 24 May 2013 - 04:50 PM.

[Livewyr]

LordBraxton, on 24 May 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

no that is called being

a jack of all trades

master of none

The 6PPC stalker will laugh at you when he sees you on alpine

the Brawler will laugh at you when he comes around the corner 180 meters away

but don't worry nobody brawls anymore



There is NO BRAWLING

like... its GONE

that is fine?

sometimes I think the gameplay in different brackets must be completely different

I dont even SEE brawlers.

Maybe your bracket sucks or something..

General playout of games on my end:
Find the enemy, move to engage, if there is a standoff, some mechs flank and provide locks to use LRMs and force the team to move and make the battlefield shift, and the brawlers move closer in order to engage.

Haven't gone a single match in that atlas where I haven't fired my AC20 frequently to great effect.
I especially love using LRMs to support the fight while I flank behind the enemy to open up with AC20 and lasers...

[Alekzander Smirnoff]

I can see the top bracket full of min max where people just have to use pinpoint builds but in the middle area, there's plenty of long, medium and short range fights. Hell alpine matches end up being brawls maybe a third of the time. Snipe fest is no fun, that I agree. My suggestion might be for you to lose maybe 300 times in a row over solo queue up and die horribly in stupid builds (noisy cricket anyone?). That will drag your elo down into a lower tier where its not all "BOOM HEADSHOT!!!111!!". I've been there, its lame.

[El Bandito]

Mr 144, on 24 May 2013 - 04:20 PM, said:

There's still brawlers?

Ahem, hem.

[Waking One]

PPCs need a big nerf, too easy to fit and use for that alpha damage.

The crying about LRMs, i bet it was mostly from poptarts who are generally too stupid to fight against anything that can fight back. Glad your easymode MWO is back. Lol.

[Alistair Winter]

The problem with PPCs was never that people were spamming them every 3 seconds. The problem was that every time you left cover, you'd have a 40 damage alpha strike neatly planted on your CT from 800 meters away. And then you had the choice of either advancing further, and hope you make it to cover before another one lands, or going back to cover and repeating the process.

The 4 second reload time makes little difference for Stalkers with 4-6 PPCs and poptarts. They were almost never firing every 3 seconds anyway.

It does, however, make a big difference for the Awesome 8Q, with only 3 PPCs and no speed to jump in and out of cover. Where the Stalker is a knockout puncher, the Awesome 8Q is a volume puncher. And the 4 second reload time makes the Awesome an even worse choice than it was before.

I still love it though. And I do well with it. So it's not useless. But I'm not thanking anyone.

[mike29tw]

For a moment I thought this isn't MWO forum anymore. positive voice? How can it be??


Then I see these two posts.

Livewyr, on 24 May 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:

Maybe your bracket sucks or something..

General playout of games on my end:
Find the enemy, move to engage, if there is a standoff, some mechs flank and provide locks to use LRMs and force the team to move and make the battlefield shift, and the brawlers move closer in order to engage.

Haven't gone a single match in that atlas where I haven't fired my AC20 frequently to great effect.
I especially love using LRMs to support the fight while I flank behind the enemy to open up with AC20 and lasers...

Waking One, on 24 May 2013 - 11:58 PM, said:

PPCs need a big nerf, too easy to fit and use for that alpha damage.

The crying about LRMs, i bet it was mostly from poptarts who are generally too stupid to fight against anything that can fight back. Glad your easymode MWO is back. Lol.

Thank you for keeping the forum in check. We're now back to normal MWO forum.