Stop Flaming The Developers
#1
Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:48 AM
I freely apologize for my previous rants about balance issues. The developers need constructive feedback from us players to better the game before mass release of finished product. We freely play this BETA to help get the best product for general release. Give PGI and everyone a break and describe the problem you are having so it can be corrected, don't scream and yell because you were bested by someone better than you.
Psychokreep
#2
Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:52 AM
#3
Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:54 AM
Not sure whether it's player or dev morale. And who is beating and who is taking the beating.
#4
Posted 28 May 2013 - 07:56 AM
They are making the game they want, and ignoring the whiners. We will just have to see if what they ultimately end up with.
Edited by MeiSooHaityu, 28 May 2013 - 07:58 AM.
#5
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:02 AM
Psychokreep, on 28 May 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:
Trying? Trying is releasing balance updates once a week. Not once every two to three months. I've been in every single Blizzard RTS closed beta since 2002 and guess what... they do balance updates almost on a weekly basis. They are in constant contact with the testers, listening to all input while providing feedback and making changes.
Edited by Mister Blastman, 28 May 2013 - 08:18 AM.
#6
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:05 AM
MeiSooHaityu, on 28 May 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:
They are making the game they want, and ignoring the whiners. We will just have to see if what they ultimately end up with.
If that is what they really were aiming for, which they are, why are subforums such as "Suggestions" exist? These forums will forever be known as "The childrens playpen". Keep the community busy here thinking we have a voice of opinion or that our feedback is important while they do their own thing.
Edited by Acid Phase, 28 May 2013 - 08:06 AM.
#7
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:14 AM
There is no actual dialogue that happens there, plus the feedback threads confirm what most of us believe... they aren't really listening to us. It's not about the argument; it's the content of what we're trying to say. Most of the time, the response to something of importance, like ECM, has genuinely gone unheeded and continues to boil as more threads that react to this change continue to be created. Unlikely minor gripes, trends like this continue, so in many ways, it is the developer's responsibility to quell these whines by PROVIDING INSIGHT AS TO WHAT THEY ARE THINKING AND WHY THEY THINK THIS WAY. Otherwise, it's just random speculation and we keep continuing to make up stuff as we please, through the actions AND inactions of the problem at hand.
It's that simple.
#8
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:18 AM
MustrumRidcully, on 28 May 2013 - 07:54 AM, said:
Not sure whether it's player or dev morale. And who is beating and who is taking the beating.
This.
I thought we were seeing a turning point with the recent patch. Boy was I wrong. They had at least 4 bugs with LRM's, and hotfixed them into uselessness.
Added a Module which most of us realize shouldn't exist.
And the weapon fixes were as underwhelming as we all expected.
Not good.
And remember, we are now, 3-4 months from release. That's 6-8 patches.
#9
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:18 AM
Mister Blastman, on 28 May 2013 - 08:02 AM, said:
Trying? Trying is releasing balance updates once a week. Not once every two to three months.
MustrumRidcully, on 28 May 2013 - 07:54 AM, said:
Not sure whether it's player or dev morale. And who is beating and who is taking the beating.
I'm not sure whether to comment on the irony of a guy trying to white-knight by posting a thread called "Stop flaming the developers" (sic, he used all caps) in the Game Balance forums, when the most important thing for a Beta product is user feedback..
But I have to at least thank him for starting the thread, because it allowed the existence of the ******* magnificent posts quoted above. QFT, and all that.
Edit: I just read MustrumRidcully's post again, and laughed AGAIN. How the hell do you come up with **** like that?
Edited by Cyke, 28 May 2013 - 08:20 AM.
#10
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:22 AM
#11
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:22 AM
You can expect more flames directed at the developers. When the weapons stay the same and the flames die down, its a very bad sign. At least now people are still invested in the game to post. When those people quit posting and there have been no changes, it means people have left the game. The churn in what Piranha calls "Open Beta", has got to be a lot higher than what was the actual Beta.
#12
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:25 AM
#13
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:34 AM
Edited by jakucha, 28 May 2013 - 08:35 AM.
#14
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:38 AM
jakucha, on 28 May 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:
The problem with that fallacy is that the game has a "Gold" date which has an ETA of September. Given the state of things, it would be a date set if you were sharing a lot of the good stuff that Paul or Bryan have been smoking.
#15
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:40 AM
Deathlike, on 28 May 2013 - 08:38 AM, said:
The problem with that fallacy is that the game has a "Gold" date which has an ETA of September. Given the state of things, it would be a date set if you were sharing a lot of the good stuff that Paul or Bryan have been smoking.
Yes, a release date still close to half a year. A lot of time for game development.
Edited by jakucha, 28 May 2013 - 08:41 AM.
#19
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:46 AM
jakucha, on 28 May 2013 - 08:40 AM, said:
Yes, a release date still close to half a year. A lot of time for game development.
There are 4 months to go.
With that kind of response time, are you overly optimistic or simply uninformed?
Edited by Cyke, 28 May 2013 - 08:46 AM.
#20
Posted 28 May 2013 - 08:47 AM
jakucha, on 28 May 2013 - 08:43 AM, said:
I'm just hoping for usable MGs. Given their rate of change, I'd be waiting until next year for another buff.
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