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[MustrumRidcully]

Valcrow, on 21 October 2013 - 02:05 PM, said:

Don't get too excited this is kinda just a print test... but... glowy red eyes!!!

Great, more salt on the wounds of us Closed Beta Atlai fans.

[W E N D I G O]

Only know the eyes from the launch trailer but it's looking very good. Cool detail. Nice.

When you finish the remote control for operating the Atlas I'll order one, hehe.

What about colored laser pointers for the energy hardpoints on that thing? Good idea? U could make a diorama of an Atlas alphaing sth. BAP for example. Lol.

[Zatnik]

Hi, that's really good work on the atlas... I loved your 'pults, and I plan on making my own. The Sarah's is pretty freaking cool, too- complete with paint job!

As the risk of repeating what others have said - I read the first 5 pages of posts, but there are waaay to many pages ---

---can you share the data for the joints? (Not for the atlas itself, obviously, because IP etcetc.) I'm not sure how to go about making joints myself. I have a printer being delivered, because I had to build my own catapult after I saw yours [INSPIRED].

Otherwise, advice for making joints!

This girl is gonna have a K2, even if she has to buy a printer (done) and make it herself (...could take a while)

[kiriage]

Zatnik, on 23 October 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

Hi, that's really good work on the atlas... I loved your 'pults, and I plan on making my own. The Sarah's is pretty freaking cool, too- complete with paint job!

As the risk of repeating what others have said - I read the first 5 pages of posts, but there are waaay to many pages ---

---can you share the data for the joints? (Not for the atlas itself, obviously, because IP etcetc.) I'm not sure how to go about making joints myself. I have a printer being delivered, because I had to build my own catapult after I saw yours [INSPIRED].

Otherwise, advice for making joints!

This girl is gonna have a K2, even if she has to buy a printer (done) and make it herself (...could take a while)

Valcrow has some great info on how he handled joints on the Sarahs Jenners model page, as well as a really helpful exploded diagram, I found it immensely helpful looking at how he had gone about it in these pictures. Also, I cant remember where, but Sentinel had posted a joint example off his Catapult model, that used a different approach again that was also very clever.

[Valcrow]

kiriage, on 21 October 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

Curse you Valcrow..you just keep moving the finish line ...

But then what fun would it be if after you cross the finish line?

Alpha Wendigo, on 22 October 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

What about colored laser pointers for the energy hardpoints on that thing? Good idea? U could make a diorama of an Atlas alphaing sth. BAP for example. Lol.

A diarama... with Lasers you say?? you mean this?




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Zatnik, on 23 October 2013 - 05:07 AM, said:

Hi, that's really good work on the atlas... I loved your 'pults, and I plan on making my own. The Sarah's is pretty freaking cool, too- complete with paint job!

As the risk of repeating what others have said - I read the first 5 pages of posts, but there are waaay to many pages ---

---can you share the data for the joints? (Not for the atlas itself, obviously, because IP etcetc.) I'm not sure how to go about making joints myself. I have a printer being delivered, because I had to build my own catapult after I saw yours [INSPIRED].

Otherwise, advice for making joints!

This girl is gonna have a K2, even if she has to buy a printer (done) and make it herself (...could take a while)

Wonderful! welcome to the 3D printing club.

I'm happy to hear my work as piqued some inspiration! As Kiriage mentioned, I have some breakdowns scattered around various threads. This particular one will help.



For joints, you would be better off designing them rather than using what I have. for a few reasons.
-orientation
(each part needs to be orientated to optimize print quality. this affects 'pin holes' especially. If you print a square hole and a square pin they will not fit if your square hole is angled with it's side parallel to the ground because of the resulting overhang of material in the printed hole. If you print the same hole rotated 45 degrees, it will fit.)
-tolerance
(depending on printer accuracy, material shrink, etc.) you will need to test the accuracy of your pins by printing/testing... no way around this... and very good info to learn about the characteristics of your printer.
-friction/limits
Pins usually have 2 problems, how they go in, and how they stay in place... depending on your tolerance test, you should design your pin to have enough give for the pin to go in, and 'lock' into place with a decent amount of friction. Otherwise your model will not stand by itself and just flop around... again. needs testing.

Feel free to model my joint designs and build upon them. I'm constantly revising my own stuff as well. If you look back at the catapult, and even the atlas, the pins were a lot different. They were like little bones. I've since moved away from that in favor of larger diameter pins with tiny surface grades and bumps because I find it works well with my printer.

You'll quickly get a feel for what works and what doesn't and that's far more invaluable than using what I have here. Overengineer stuff. it's fun. And if you get stuck, there's tons of people here that'll help you out!

Which printer did you end up getting?

[Zatnik]

Valcrow, on 23 October 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

A diarama... with Lasers you say?? you mean this?

Argh! I remember seeing that! IT'S TOO COOL.

Valcrow, on 23 October 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

Wonderful! welcome to the 3D printing club.

Thankyou.

Valcrow, on 23 October 2013 - 11:25 PM, said:

I'm happy to hear my work as piqued some inspiration! As Kiriage mentioned, I have some breakdowns scattered around various threads. This particular one will help.



For joints, you would be better off designing them rather than using what I have. for a few reasons.
-orientation
(each part needs to be orientated to optimize print quality. this affects 'pin holes' especially. If you print a square hole and a square pin they will not fit if your square hole is angled with it's side parallel to the ground because of the resulting overhang of material in the printed hole. If you print the same hole rotated 45 degrees, it will fit.)
-tolerance
(depending on printer accuracy, material shrink, etc.) you will need to test the accuracy of your pins by printing/testing... no way around this... and very good info to learn about the characteristics of your printer.
-friction/limits
Pins usually have 2 problems, how they go in, and how they stay in place... depending on your tolerance test, you should design your pin to have enough give for the pin to go in, and 'lock' into place with a decent amount of friction. Otherwise your model will not stand by itself and just flop around... again. needs testing.

Feel free to model my joint designs and build upon them. I'm constantly revising my own stuff as well. If you look back at the catapult, and even the atlas, the pins were a lot different. They were like little bones. I've since moved away from that in favor of larger diameter pins with tiny surface grades and bumps because I find it works well with my printer.

You'll quickly get a feel for what works and what doesn't and that's far more invaluable than using what I have here. Overengineer stuff. it's fun. And if you get stuck, there's tons of people here that'll help you out!

Which printer did you end up getting?

Wow, that's a lot of parts for one joint. I had originally thought that if I could print the peg at the same size, I could file it to fit, but I think it would be easier if I can print it to just squeeze in there without alteration.

I can't wait for it to arrive... I've been playing with trying to get the model broken into the right chunks.

This is my printer:
http://www.ebay.com....984.m1439.l2649

MBot dual 3d cube. I'm curious about how good it will be. I bought ABS filament.

kiriage, on 23 October 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

Valcrow has some great info on how he handled joints on the Sarahs Jenners model page, as well as a really helpful exploded diagram, I found it immensely helpful looking at how he had gone about it in these pictures. Also, I cant remember where, but Sentinel had posted a joint example off his Catapult model, that used a different approach again that was also very clever.

Thanks!

[Valcrow]

Zatnik, on 24 October 2013 - 03:40 AM, said:

Wow, that's a lot of parts for one joint. I had originally thought that if I could print the peg at the same size, I could file it to fit, but I think it would be easier if I can print it to just squeeze in there without alteration.

I can't wait for it to arrive... I've been playing with trying to get the model broken into the right chunks.

This is my printer:
http://www.ebay.com....984.m1439.l2649

MBot dual 3d cube. I'm curious about how good it will be. I bought ABS filament.


Thanks!

This is a lot of parts because it's the balljoint. and the pelvis is too complicated a shape to print in one go without support. For regular joints, you just need a pin and socket. You can file to fit, but it's easier in the long run if you figure out your tolerances or if you need to make more than 1.


And.. completely unrelated... stubby atlas!

[Zatnik]

That's not how you chibi.



But seriously. LUV<3 is OP.

All these people and their love boats. They're ruining the game.

[Mech42Ace]

PLEASE RESPOND:
Can you make me one? If so, how much. I would buy it!

[Void Malign]

luv you work :3 and can I ask to perform the same size model CTF-IM and send it to me by mail? I would be happy to get a real time model MWO, because even to e-bay such things does not exist. i can offer to it a aprriciable price with all taxes, cause i live in RU..

Edited by spiritus infernus, 20 January 2014 - 05:44 PM.

[Valcrow]

spiritus infernus, on 20 January 2014 - 05:43 PM, said:

luv you work :3 and can I ask to perform the same size model CTF-IM and send it to me by mail? I would be happy to get a real time model MWO, because even to e-bay such things does not exist. i can offer to it a aprriciable price with all taxes, cause i live in RU..

Sorry, don't have plans to make a CTF at the moment, Though that's a pretty popular request.

I did however start painting Telkin's atlas with my new airbrush for practice and experimentation after the catapult was relatively successful.

This one's a v2 with balljointed legs. again needed some putty.






black primer - so satisfying with airbrush primer and doesn't cost an arm and a leg like canned primer.



pre-shading. I actually think this step looks the coolest, and I'm not 100% sure I need to do this... Pre-shading with the base colour rather than white seems like it'll save me a step, but I'm afraid the colours won't be vibrant enough on black primer alone... Maybe next time.

Gonna make it blue with white stripes.

[Damocles]

Valcrow, on 21 January 2014 - 02:02 AM, said:

Gonna make it blue with white stripes.

Yeesssss! House Steiner approves!

[Valcrow]

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Yeesssss! House Steiner approves!

We played with some Steiner atlas group randomly a while ago which inspired the paint scheme. Just customized it in mechlab as reference. They need more trim patterns!


Blue base coat



barely noticeable shading pass


Dark grey shadows / tertiary colour to break up the blue flatness


Secondary colour white stripes



Base coat finished! Just weathering to go! Looks pretty cool already, though the blue is a bit too vibrant I think... Nothing some mud/dust can't handle though.

[Bishop Steiner]

Valcrow, on 21 January 2014 - 07:47 PM, said:

We played with some Steiner atlas group randomly a while ago which inspired the paint scheme. Just customized it in mechlab as reference. They need more trim patterns!


Blue base coat



barely noticeable shading pass


Dark grey shadows / tertiary colour to break up the blue flatness


Secondary colour white stripes



Base coat finished! Just weathering to go! Looks pretty cool already, though the blue is a bit too vibrant I think... Nothing some mud/dust can't handle though.

val....we need to trade a King Crab for an Atlas.......

[Valcrow]

Bishop Steiner, on 21 January 2014 - 08:36 PM, said:

val....we need to trade a King Crab for an Atlas.......

Deal!

How's the Crab coming along anyways?

[Valcrow]

Marack Drock, on 22 January 2014 - 11:58 AM, said:

Valcrow....... Timber Wolf next? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????

hmmm haven't decided on next project yet.. but maybe..



Added very light grey spray to dullify a bit of the blue and darken the white a tiny bit, along with some dust/mud near the feet.
Creased the face a bit.



Washed the inset parts and corners with black so we get some definition in the crevices.


Added paint wear / exposed metal / silver highlights





Almost done, just need touchups, rust, lens details.

[Timuroslav]

I don't even consider Atlas my Main Assault mech, and I'd Still throw down 40 bucks on that. Freaking sweet. Very Jealous.

Edited by Timuroslav, 23 January 2014 - 12:53 PM.

[Valcrow]

Done! Red eyes of course.





Now to get some better pics...

[MATRAKA14]

So much want.

Edited by MATRAKA14, 25 January 2014 - 11:38 AM.

[Morsule]

Great work