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#121 OvenRude

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:02 PM

I literally feel sick after playing one game. Needless to say you won't be getting any more of my money until this is fixed. Ridiculous.

#122 Dude42

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:04 PM

View Postnopempele, on 04 June 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

English may not be my first language, but I'm not the one who gets cocky and starts trolling. I'm not supposed to know (or even care) what some random dude thinks when he writes his post.

My post was exactly about how screen shaking and such made some mechs simply unplayable.

If you look for trolling, I'd suggest you look at posts with "swimming in poptarts tears" phrases in them.

You're doing it in the wrong thread.

#123 DeaconW

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:07 PM

View PostFunkyCat, on 04 June 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

Dude, use brains :angry: All poptarts will change HGN-732 and CTF-3D to PPC-Stalkers, so u will suffer alot more :3
All poptarts theme is a result of the PGI 'good' PPC-heat and shot-speed balance. Nerf PCC shot speed and add some additional heat - thats all, poptarts will dissapear.


...Promises the poptarder...

I have more respect for PPC-STK pilots than any of the HGN poptarders.

#124 Serapth

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostDeaconW, on 04 June 2013 - 03:07 PM, said:


...Promises the poptarder...

I have more respect for PPC-STK pilots than any of the HGN poptarders.



Oh, so you are selective about what broken game mechanic you are indignant about?

#125 Alwrathandabout42ninjas

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:09 PM

Wow... just wow.

Played a few matches and i am shocked at how extreme you guys took this nerf. 1 of the effects would have been fine... but all 3 put together is way too much. Im not getting sick. But I am feeling sick knowing that JJ's are broken till you fix them.

No more JJ's for a while /sigh

#126 DeaconW

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:12 PM

View PostSgtMaster, on 04 June 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

My son just had an epileptic seizure..!

he was just watching me play...

Bye Bye..!


If true, that could happen on any game (read the warnings on the boxes). However, If, as I suspect, this is indeed simply an attempt to get your poptart easy mode back, using your son as a foil is pretty pathetic.

#127 BananaNutMuffins

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:15 PM

DeaconW stop being bad and bashing poptarts just because you get wrecked by them over and over. Thats what this patch is about it brings all the good poptarters back into ppc stalkers and whats funny is youll still get wrecked and then you can start qqing about ppcs some more.

#128 DeaconW

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostSerapth, on 04 June 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:


You wanted them to fix poptarting by implementing a visual effect that caused a good portion of the community to get motion sickness?


No, I'm calling BS that this is really happening in most cases. And 10 or even 20 dudes on a forum do not make up a "good portion of the community"...

View PostBananaNutMuffins, on 04 June 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:

DeaconW stop being bad and bashing poptarts just because you get wrecked by them over and over. Thats what this patch is about it brings all the good poptarters back into ppc stalkers and whats funny is youll still get wrecked and then you can start qqing about ppcs some more.



Never QQ'd about PPC-Stalkers, in fact I drive one.

#129 OvenRude

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostDeaconW, on 04 June 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:


No, I'm calling BS that this is really happening in most cases. And 10 or even 20 dudes on a forum do not make up a "good portion of the community"...


Getting motion sick from this is very real. I literally played one game and I'm so dizzy I cannot play another. And preferring 6 PPC stalkers (which might be the most broken style of play in the game) to a 3D poptart? Your noob ways are showing.

#130 DeaconW

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostRansack, on 04 June 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

Just got home, took my 733P out for a spin. Yes there is some serious shaking going on, but it is less shake than getting caught by a ballistic barrage with a chain fire macro. My jets were still useful for travel, and I scored a few ERPPC hits while jumping.

I do feel bad for those people that are having serious issues with the shake though, hopefully there will be some sort of compromise, but this NEEDS to stay in game.


Now that sounds like an HONEST response. Nicely done.

#131 Serapth

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:19 PM

View PostDeaconW, on 04 June 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:


No, I'm calling BS that this is really happening in most cases. And 10 or even 20 dudes on a forum do not make up a "good portion of the community"...


It makes up a pretty damned good demographic of this thread and many others like it. Have you noticed there are tons of people that AGREE with nerfing poptarts, but disagree with the way it happened? No, of course not, we are all just a bunch of liars looking keep easy mode.


Stay classy.

View PostOvenRude, on 04 June 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:


Getting motion sick from this is very real. I literally played one game and I'm so dizzy I cannot play another. And preferring 6 PPC stalkers (which might be the most broken style of play in the game) to a 3D poptart? Your noob ways are showing.


LIAR! :|

#132 Milt

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:19 PM

idk, from my short experience in my spider today, i didnt see too much difficulty in hitting what i was aiming at. But omfg after 5min i had a raging migraine. i guess they have introduced a form of aversion therapy. you use jj you get ill.

#133 DeaconW

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:20 PM

View PostOvenRude, on 04 June 2013 - 03:18 PM, said:


Getting motion sick from this is very real. I literally played one game and I'm so dizzy I cannot play another. And preferring 6 PPC stalkers (which might be the most broken style of play in the game) to a 3D poptart? Your noob ways are showing.


Sorry you are getting sick, if you really are (pardon my skepticism but I believe it is valid given the QQing in this thread). You simply need to move to another type of mech. As far as 6 PPC stalkers...they are a bad build design...too hot. Definitely prefer them to a 3D poptart.

#134 Kaemon

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:22 PM

Someone at PGI really ikes the feeling like you drank too much tequila and decided to get on a pongo stick. First it was the Ballastics Cha-Cah, Then the Missile Watoosy and now it's the Jump Jet Merengue.

JJ's are the only thing keeping some mechs viable, and for such a beautiful game, it seems you guys really are trying to make the majority of gameplay look like junk.

Wouldn't disabling zoom (all vision modes) while in the air and adding a small shake accomplish the thing and not ruin JJ's for people who dislike watching larger screen dance?

Does anyone at PGI test on a screen larger than 15"?

Must we do everything to excess then have to make yet another change to scale it back?

How about small changes across a few weeks (because apparently QA/testing fell down the stairs or perhaps they really just want to quit and go back to school for interpretive dance).

*waits for the PPCfoxtrotapocolypse next*.

#135 Zeus X

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:24 PM

View PostDeaconW, on 04 June 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:


Sorry you are getting sick, if you really are (pardon my skepticism but I believe it is valid given the QQing in this thread). You simply need to move to another type of mech. As far as 6 PPC stalkers...they are a bad build design...too hot. Definitely prefer them to a 3D poptart.


Most of us agree that poptarting is bad and needs to be nerf/fixed/resolved, but the way it has been done is making alot people motion sick and I'm done for the night after three rounds.

I still feel fairly sick an hour later, no other game does this to me.

#136 William Knight

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:24 PM

View PostTexAss, on 04 June 2013 - 02:42 PM, said:

They implemented it wrong. Everything outside of your cockpit should shake. Not the cockpit itself. the pilot should stay fit inside the cockpit and not move around,


Get in your car and read a book, Then ask your friends to really bounce the car about. If you can complete a chapter of the book then I will like your post.

Edited by William Knight, 04 June 2013 - 03:25 PM.


#137 Steel Will

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostNiko Snow, on 04 June 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:

None of our internal testers reported this issue...


Well there you have it everybody. If there was an issue their crack team of ace internal testers would have caught it like they do all the others.

#138 BR0WN_H0RN3T

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:27 PM

Very interesting comments on headaches and nausea attributed to JJ use. This should be looked into more as it's entirely possible. Having said that, if u r experiencing these symptoms try using JJs less and try a bit of variety.

#139 Zeus X

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:28 PM

View PostSteel Will, on 04 June 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:


Well there you have it everybody. If there was an issue their crack team of ace internal testers would have caught it like they do all the others.


So far, they haven't caught diddly!

LRMpocalypse V4 or is it V5 is underway, and the cockpit shake is making people ill.

So far cockpit shake is the most screamed about, and well it should be.

#140 Ridersofdoom

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 03:29 PM

ROFL, but im a headache now





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