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[Shumabot]

That Commando is so big.

[SgtMagor]

can't wait to run around the battlefield with the QD. with those 2 hand actuators watch out for its upper cut!

Edited by SgtMagor, 05 June 2013 - 12:30 PM.

[FupDup]

Omni 13, on 05 June 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

I'd rather pilot the dragon.

Utterly gigantic CT and too little tonnage to make use of the ballistic hardpoint(s). Yup, Dragon is so much better.

[Scav3ng3r]

What I want to know is..... why does this Free Worlds League 'Mech have a damn dirty Liao paint job?!?!?!

[Adridos]

FupDup, on 05 June 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

Utterly gigantic CT and too little tonnage to make use of the ballistic hardpoint(s). Yup, Dragon is so much better.

Exactly... there was little reason to ever use Dragon even now... after the patch, there won't be any unless this mech has some serious downside compared to it.

Scav3ng3r, on 05 June 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

What I want to know is..... why does this Free Worlds League 'Mech have a damn dirty Liao paint job?!?!?!

You've sold it to us?

Edited by Adridos, 05 June 2013 - 12:28 PM.

[Commander Kobold]

FupDup, on 05 June 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

Utterly gigantic CT and too little tonnage to make use of the ballistic hardpoint(s). Yup, Dragon is so much better.

at least the dragon didn't bring me the disappointment that the quickie did, and I already have a Catapult C1 I don't need a humanoid shaped one too.

[Thorqemada]

When i read the story "Lee van Cleef" comes to my mind in one of his iconic western movies and i feel that fits a Mech thats called "Quickdraw".

[Commander Kobold]

Shumabot, on 05 June 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

That Commando is so big.

more like a hefty treb

[Bloodweaver]

FupDup, on 05 June 2013 - 12:18 PM, said:

On the 18th, the Dragon shall be fully and permanently replaced by SSRM-totting Quickdraws.

I thought this too. The more I think about it though, the less I agree. For one , you have the jets and added energy & missile hardpoints. But frankly, that's minimal.

I think the main difference will be in the hitboxes. The Dragon's CT is enormous. Some call this an outright weakness, but it's also its main strength - such a large CT means the two side torsos are meager. And that makes XL engines more useful on the Dragon than on any other non-light mech, by far.

The quickdraw doesn't seem to share this trait; it's side-torsos seem to be more on the level of a Centurion's. XLs probably won't be too safe on it. So whereas the Dragon is a harasser, I'd guess the QD will become more of an outright striker. Higher alpha, lower speed, but more overall mobility with the jets.

It would also be nice if we finally got ONE ECM-capable mech that wasn't either an Atlas or a light(Cicada is a light, let's face it)... but I'm not holding my breath on that one.

[J I N]

Nice one!

Maybe there will be one with ECM? (I think there is one version with it...)

[MrTarget]

Wow, way to make a crappy 80's design in to something good.

Still no Orion though...

Edited by MrTarget, 05 June 2013 - 12:31 PM.

[Adridos]

JIN1987, on 05 June 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

Nice one!

Maybe there will be one with ECM? (I think there is one version with it...)

3070... but none of the mechs except for RVN-3L should have had it, anyway...

[Sir Roland MXIII]

FupDup, on 05 June 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

Utterly gigantic CT and too little tonnage to make use of the ballistic hardpoint(s). Yup, Dragon is so much better.

Yhea which is mostly true until the Flame comes into the picture, I LOVE that thing. Set it up as a MAD 3R minus 15 tons and lotsa fun.

Which brought up a thought for me: as far as 'mechs that can be rendered into the equivalent of Unseen, I think this one might have more potential than most to have a hero model that can be a ShadowHawk. Yeah I know a lot of people think its bland and average but there are some of us who like it and do well with it. Food for thought though.

EDIT

Scav3ng3r, on 05 June 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

What I want to know is..... why does this Free Worlds League 'Mech have a damn dirty Liao paint job?!?!?!

Probably for the same reason a bunch of Liao 'mechs make their ways into the hands of mechwarriors with more than half a brain. Cataphracts of Davion for example.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 05 June 2013 - 12:31 PM.

[John MatriX82]

Well I wasn't expecting this, I'm slightly sad for the push back of the Orion, but knowing the Victor was the next one I was even thinking about skipping the Orion and go straight for the 80 ton assault.

This Quickdraw looks good and it may be rather interesting. Unfortunately I have the feeling it's going to replace my mediums, I love my Dragons and often use those instead of my hbks/trenchs/Cents, but this one takes the best of a 4SP and adds 10 tons with huge engines! /me likes

[Native]

AgroAntirrhopus, on 05 June 2013 - 11:57 AM, said:

Oooooh yes. Yes oh yes. Alex is just... man... is there anything this man can't spin into gold?

The Lobo

[Scav3ng3r]

Adridos, on 05 June 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

You've sold it to us?

More like you raided one of our border worlds and stole it!

[Skadi]

FupDup, on 05 June 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

Utterly gigantic CT and too little tonnage to make use of the ballistic hardpoint(s). Yup, Dragon is so much better.

Atleast its armor isn't made of paper

[FupDup]

Skadi, on 05 June 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

Atleast its armor isn't made of paper

Both mechs are 60 tons and thus have identical armor capacities. The difference is that a QD can actually protect its CT by twisting.

[Ngamok]

Evax, on 05 June 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

Most people, IMHO, are thinking it just going to be another PPC boat. I am sure that will be the case. What I don't think people see is the chance for another Zombie mech. The center torso, near the waist line, may have missile slots. With those and the Obvious missile and energy points on the side torso you could make a 60 ton zombie CN9 style mech. The arm also look like they would make great shields. Some draw backs yes but, with ammo in the legs, you could be SRMing long after you had no sides.

If you look at the original artwork, the belt has a circular one shot 4 missile slot. In Alex's rendering, it's and SRM4 horizontally placed instead of circular.

[Outlaw]

I think the Quickdraw can be a nice addition... if they make a custom "Stock" configuration that can carry ECM since the only canon ECM carrying layout is mid/post FedCom Civil War.