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[Nintenja]

Play to win, pay to look good doing it.

[Agent KI7KO]

Kasseopea, on 09 June 2012 - 03:31 AM, said:

1,5x Exp, Inifinite Credits, Crew at 75%, Exp transfer, ALL the equipment, Goldrounds, additional Tank slots, additional Tanks, buffs (aka nutrition packs etc.) - i dont know, but it seems pretty much like Pay2Win.

The following is something you can get without paying cash:
- Crew 75% training.

There's no such thing as:
- Infinite credits.
- Premium ALL Equipments.

The following are not Pay2Win:
- Additional Tank slots. Really?
- Additional Tanks. I assume this is premium tanks. All premium tanks are inferior to the standard tanks that have been fully upgraded.

The following is Pay2Progress, something MWO is doing (Details still unknown):
- 1.5x exp
- EXP Transfer

The following are still subject to bouncing off if your aim is ****, and don't do extra damage:
- APCR having faster penetration falloff than regular AP rounds.
- HEAT having zero shell normalization unlike normal shells.

The following uses a precious consumable slot that can be better dedicated to Repair Kit, Medkit, or an Extinguisher:
- Nutrition buffs.

[Meldarth Sunphot]

I understand people's fear about MWO becoming WoT; I can tell you for several reasons why it won't......

One there is not golden bullet in this game -

Two - its going to be pilot skill that will win.....aka you got to play to win; more you play better your skills become. But if you still suck as a player; there won't be anything to help you.....

Three - and the most important thing; Piranha actually gives a damn about us unlike the Devs of WoT - they listen - they banter with us and don't tell us oh that's working as intended; blow us off. Remember Piranha been around for while now; they know how to make games......

Now lets be done with this.........

[Kasseopea]

Afoxi, on 10 June 2012 - 05:54 AM, said:

There's no such thing as:
- Infinite credits.
- Premium ALL Equipments.

Uhh, nice try, you can turn Gold into Credits and buy the equipment


Well, anyways, seems that the cash-stuff isnt only cosmetical nature, so i guess i will have to test it myself. Would be really nice if the "pending" sign would finally change either into "approved" or "disapproved" or "postponed til the next phase" or sth. Its a bit annoying to login only to see the pending status, not knowing what will happen.

Could anyone answer the question about Jen McQuarrie? I still cant read out of the wiki if she is Steiner, Davion or some sort of rebel who simply has chosen to follow Ian. I know, it must be a very simple thing to all the veterans, but i only played MW4 and MW4:Mercenaries, so it is a little bit complicated without all the information.

Edited by Kasseopea, 10 June 2012 - 06:29 AM.

[GHQCommander]

Blackfire1, on 09 June 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

Why is this thread still alive and with semi serious posting. . .

lol


I thought I had participated in this one before. While I'm here I want to say.

I have helped to blow up plenty "paid loads to try and win" players as part of a team. Means nothing to me if a game is pay to win, just team up with a decent group and focus fire on the players who you just know hate to lose.

However this game won't be pay2win straight away, I would like to place official bets somewhere that it is pay to win 3 years after release.

[Faceless Priest]

Kasseopea, on 08 June 2012 - 03:52 AM, said:

So well, first question - if someone brings 1000$ in, will he be able to insta win like in S4League

did you even look at what bought gear does for you in s4League? The absolute BEST bonus you can get is less then 20% to your overall stats.

If 20% = instant win you really need to practice more.

Kasseopea, on 10 June 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

Would be really nice if the "pending" sign would finally change either into "approved" or "disapproved" or "postponed til the next phase" or sth. Its a bit annoying to login only to see the pending status, not knowing what will happen.

If it's the day after they released beta keys guess what, your status is postponed til the next phase.

/wrist to all you people who cry about being looked over as if the company activly looked at you and went "nope we don't want this guy".

[KingCobra]

I hope it is Pay2Win that way i can buy everything and be a NoobGod and i will buy the skill boosters also.This way all the poor players that cannot pay2win will be my minnions heeehhhheehhaaaaaaaalolololol.

[Agent KI7KO]

Kasseopea, on 10 June 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

Uhh, nice try, you can turn Gold into Credits and buy the equipment

So basically, $20 to buy either a Tier 7 tank or 4 pieces of equipment. Nowhere near unlimited.

Totally not worth it by the way, I can earn that much in a non-premium tank in two days.

Edited by Afoxi, 10 June 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[geck0 icaza]

is it wrong that every time I see a post about info thats easy to find and largely considered common knowledge I check the post count of the OP right away before I start reading? I am not saying there aren't those of use that do more reading than posting lord knows I'm one of them but If I had saw at least 50 I wouldn't have the thought "they really should make this info mandatory to read before you post" run through my head.

I meant no offense to the OP but I do wish new users took more time to search for the info before posting.

[GrizzlyViking]

lol It looks like several recent posts have degraded into some obscure arguments about WoTs. This is not WoTs!

Edited by GrizzlyViking, 10 June 2012 - 07:01 AM.

[Kasseopea]

Faceless Priest, on 10 June 2012 - 06:38 AM, said:

did you even look at what bought gear does for you in s4League? The absolute BEST bonus you can get is less then 20% to your overall stats.

If 20% = instant win you really need to practice more.

Do i really have to explain it? Ok, lets say 2 teams with the same skill battle again each other. The team with 20% more of everything will win (approx with 20% more kills). But i guess you would defend Wolf Team aswell (i mean, its only 40HP, 50% armor and 20% dmg more in a TacShooter, who cares, right?)

geck0 icaza, on 10 June 2012 - 06:57 AM, said:

is it wrong that every time I see a post about info thats easy to find and largely considered common knowledge I check the post count of the OP right away before I start reading? I am not saying there aren't those of use that do more reading than posting lord knows I'm one of them but If I had saw at least 50 I wouldn't have the thought "they really should make this info mandatory to read before you post" run through my head.

I meant no offense to the OP but I do wish new users took more time to search for the info before posting.

None taken, yet most of the infos are the same on every MMO.

Pick ANY F2PMMO and you will read: "Oh, we arent aiming for pay2win, those will be only small bonuses, which will only give you a tiny-winey boost and wont help you in the actuall gameplay at aaaaall"

Battleforge is also F2P, cmon, tell me how far you will progress with your endless skill if you cant get more cards in a card game by any means, without spending money.


I read the FAQ and nothing there, so i asked.

Edited by Kasseopea, 10 June 2012 - 07:08 AM.

[Sativacuity]

GrizzlyViking, on 09 June 2012 - 07:09 PM, said:

I have not seen any post that indicates, even remotely, that players will be paying for "completed play time" in MWO. Can you post a link to this information please?

They won't really. It was more of a summation of what you'll really be buying when you pay for C-Bills or XP. If you don't have time, but still want to play seriously, you can pay for the XP and C-Bills you would have gotten had you the time.

[Stabs]

If they stick to a system similar to Tribes:Ascend it will be fine. Unlocked content should be about giving you more choice rather than making you more powerful.

If you can just buy your way to the top the game will not be successful (as has been proven many times before) and the devs probably know this.

Edited by Stabs, 10 June 2012 - 09:14 AM.

[Sativacuity]

Stabs, on 10 June 2012 - 09:10 AM, said:

If they stick to a system similar to Tribes:Ascend it will be fine. Unlocked content should be about giving you more choice rather than making you more powerful.

If you can just buy your way to the top the game will not be successful (as has been proven many times before) and the devs probably know this.

Cheers to a fellow Tribes player, and you've got that spot on; I just hope it isn't as, in Maximum PC's words, glacial as far as XP pacing goes.