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[Randall Flagg]

Do you notice a large increase in FPS with it? I currently have two 670 4GBs and I am thinking of abandoning SLI to have a higher frame rates in MW:O.

[GRIMM11]

well of course... SLI isnt supported so your sli 670's are really just one 670.

[Catamount]

Titan should be 40-50% faster in raw power than your setup, but if you have a single monitor setup, a single 4GB 670 should be more than adequate to play the game at 60fps+ on any settings anyways, so a CPU step-up would do far more for you.

Titan makes the most sense if you're running a triple monitor setup, where that actual GPU power would be helpful, and the additional VRAM is necessary.

Edited by Catamount, 06 June 2013 - 06:59 AM.

[Viper69]

I wouldnt abandon it because unless you have a lot of spare money I would just disable SLI run in single GFX card mode until SLI is enabled if at all. Come to think of it is it at all on their projected list of items to be released prior to launch? I dont have SLI I got an old 5870 HD but it would be nice for those that did have it to be able to use it.

Do many game still not support SLI because I see it as an issue on many game forums.

[Randall Flagg]

sli is not supported..and wont be anytime soon. My question is to those people that are running a Titan what are your frame rates in game. Ill be upgrading from a 2500k @ 5ghz to a 3820 i7 and MSI Xpower II. If the Titan is putting out good FPS I will keep one 670 for physx and ebay my 480 gtx and other 670. Otherwise it's looking like 2x670s and a 480 for physx.

Edited by BDU SKINLESS, 06 June 2013 - 07:47 AM.

[Catamount]

We already know how Titan performs. You can look over numerous threads to get an answer there (it'll put out 60+ fps in triple monitor setups), or look at any review site to get an idea of how it performs. The real question is whether it will be of benefit for your particular setup.

[Postumus]

I run 2x 670s as well, and its not actually true that SLI doesn't work. There's no SLI profile for the game, but the cards are smart enough to do some load sharing, and I can tell the difference between one and two. As to whether you should sell one or both cards for a titan... i'd say no, its overpriced and the next line of cards will probably have an 870 that does the same thing for half the price.

[Barbaric Soul]

For a single monitor set-up, like Catamount suggested, a single GTX670 should give you the performance your looking for. My non-GHZ edition non-OC'ed HD7970 give me 50 fps running 2560*1600 resolution with all setting at their highest setting except motion blur, which is turned off. If a HD7970 running at 925/1375 can run 50 fps at 1600p, a single GTX670 should have no problem at 1080p.

On a side note, your upgrading from a 2500k to a 3820? Why? You won't gain any performance worth the price tag of a socket 2011 rig. You'd be better off just getting a 2600k or 2700k and keeping your current MB if you really feel the need for hyper-threading, which is the only advantage the 3820 has over the 2500k. And hyper-threading doesn't offer crap for performance gain in gaming. This coming from the owner of two i7 rigs (i7 860 and i7 2600K)

[Barbaric Soul]

Here's a comparison between the 2600k and 3820- http://www.anandtech...duct/287?vs=523 and here's the 2500k compared to the 3820- http://www.anandtech...duct/288?vs=523

[Randall Flagg]

The reason for the 3820 is it will allow me to use the same waterblock and motherboard when Ivy bridge E comes out.

[Randall Flagg]

Reason for pulling the trigger now is keeping everthing in line with my work/leave rotations. The way it fell this year I will have to get the board and everything now and pick up Ivy E this fall. Im only stateside a few months out of the year. So if I can get a few extra fps out of the game I think its worth the money...apparently that is not the case though so I will just keep the 670 FTW+s and call it a day.

[Sen]

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[color=#959595]The reason for the 3820 is it will allow me to use the same waterblock and motherboard when Ivy bridge E comes out. [/color]

Don't waste the money, just upgrade to a 3930k and be done with it. You're not going to see much of a performance gain between sandy E and ivy E, and if Ivy-E overclocks like Ivy bridge. . well. . . let's just say the Sandy-E has some definitive advantages. The 3820 only has 4 cores and isn't unlocked. as bclk overclocking is essentially dead and given your cooling solution, I'm a little confused as to why you'd put yourself in that position to begin with.

Edited by Sen, 07 June 2013 - 06:19 AM.

[ArmageddonKnight]

The 3820 can hit 4.5ghz relativly easy. iirc its 36 multiplyer and 125 bclk.

Anyway moving to a LGA2011 in prep for Ivy-E isnt a bad move tbh. If u cant afford u dont want to bother with a 6core i7 on sandy then the 3820 is ur only option.
Just dont be suprised if Intel decides to pull a fast one and increase the pins to make a new socket to force people to buy new motherboards. Though tbh i dont see why they would since they anounced they have pulled out of the motherboard side of things since Haswell.

As for Titan performance on MWO, well i dont have a Titan but i do have a 780, it isnt inside my rig yet, (its sitting in front of me atm) but it will be when i get the last few items that are currently in transit to me for my upgrade. So ill let u know what FPS i get with the 780.

[Randall Flagg]

3820 should do 4.7 with 1666mhz memory. The deciding factor for ivy E will be whether or not they actually soldered the back of the chip like on sandy bridge. The fact that people are delidding the 4770k's for better temps is ********. Worst case I buy a binned 3930k and be done with it. I dont think they will f up the ivy E release though..knock on wood.

@knight, Congrats on the 780 man, any input you can pass on is much appreciated.

[Alymbic]

I have a 3930k and a titan, and the game runs well. I have my fps at the default cap of 60, simply because anything over that would be overkill (and I still remember back in closed beta when peoples gpu's were overheating in the mechlab because it had no fps cap), and it sticks to my cap perfectly. I've never actually cared much for how many fps I could reach, only that it was workable.

Never really looked into it much in detail, but it runs very cool and flawlessly and my processor load normally sits between 15-20% while in-game (I mean flawlessly fps wise, obviously I still have the usual bugs such as missing textures on frozen city).

It is great, but I would imagine you would be better off waiting for a cheaper option. I didn't build my rig expressly with gaming in mind, and it is rather costly by a gaming computers standards (fantastic for video work and rendering though).

[ArmageddonKnight]

BDU SKINLESS, on 07 June 2013 - 07:16 AM, said:

@knight, Congrats on the 780 man, any input you can pass on is much appreciated.

Thanks. yea ill give back feedback when its all sorted. I've been ordering parts for 2 builds. My upgrade, and a new build for a family member, so gotta wait for all parts to come b4 i start building / rebuilding them and then OC'ing starts on the new one.

List of parts:
Intel 4770k (new build)
NH-D14 cooler (new build)
Gigabyte Z87X-D3H (new build)
EVGA 2gb GTX 660ti FTW Signature 2 (new build)
G.Skill RipjawsX 2x8gb 1866mhz (new build)
Thermaltake Chaser Mk-1 case (From my current build to new build)
Corsair TX750m PSU (From my current build to new build)
NZXT Phantom 820 White case (My upgrade)
Seasonic Platinum 1000w PSu (My upgrade)
Asus Xonar D2X dedictaed sound card (My upgrade)
MadCatz RAT 7 MMO (My upgrade)
MadCatz GLIDE 9 pad (My Upgrade)
EVGA GTX 780 ACX (My upgrade) < Will likely swap it for the ACX Classified when it releases in a couple weeks.

So yea ..lots of parts lol.

Oh and i also added a Belkin Notebook Cush Desk to the list. I have my current mouse mat on my lap using a small composite chopping board for rigidity, but the new pad is HUGE and i needed somthing bigger, the notebook cush thing is perfect for it.
http://www.amazon.co...05151_M3T1_dp_1

Edited by ArmageddonKnight, 07 June 2013 - 08:30 AM.

[B0oN]

Alymbic, on 07 June 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

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I have a 3930k and a titan, and the game runs well. I have my fps at the default cap of 60, simply because anything over that would be overkill (and I still remember back in closed beta when peoples gpu's were overheating in the mechlab because it had no fps cap), and it sticks to my cap perfectly. I've never actually cared much for how many fps I could reach, only that it was workable.

Never really looked into it much in detail, but it runs very cool and flawlessly and my processor load normally sits between 15-20% while in-game (I mean flawlessly fps wise, obviously I still have the usual bugs such as missing textures on frozen city).

It is great, but I would imagine you would be better off waiting for a cheaper option. I didn't build my rig expressly with gaming in mind, and it is rather costly by a gaming computers standards (fantastic for video work and rendering though).

GO for downsampling, man, your rig has the ooomph for that.
I torture mine sometimes with 2880x1620 squeezed onto my 24" 1920x1200 for screenie purpose but I miss the fluidity of my normal resolution so its hard to play with that big resolution for longer.

But your rig could stomach that easily as far as I see from your components, plus it is nice on the eyes with all that reduced aliasing ^^

[Sen]

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3820 should do 4.7 with 1666mhz memory

my 3930k rig will do the same. . with 1866 9-10-9-28, 32 gig across 8 slots. In addition, I have 2 extra cores and 2 extra threads ^^

I guess I just don't understand the point of going with a quad core hyperthreaded 2011 over a 3770/4770k. I *ALSO* wouldn't count on soldered on caps with Ivy-E. Of course only time will tell, but at least you know exactly what you're getting with Sandy-E, and for the overall cost of a 3820 and the next ivy. . . you could probably get a 3930k and be done with it.

Edited by Sen, 07 June 2013 - 11:38 AM.

[CHH Badkarma]

How many Hz is your monitor? You may be being held back in your fps if you are running a 60 Hz. Most say ( even mods ) that the game is capped at 60 when that really is not the case. I was capped at 60 when I ran a 60Hz monitor. Now with a 144 Hz Im looked solid at 144 fps in the mech lab and between 80-112 in game, and yes I have screen shots with the fps counter on lol. Im only running 680s. With no sli it boils down to running one 680 and still getting those numbers so you could fair well with your cards. As the others have said a Titan in a single monitor setup would be a waste.

Edited by Jason Radick, 07 June 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[Barbaric Soul]

BDU SKINLESS, on 07 June 2013 - 04:56 AM, said:

The reason for the 3820 is it will allow me to use the same waterblock and motherboard when Ivy bridge E comes out.

You don't think there will be new chipset for IB-e when it's released? Just like there was for IB? Sure, you could run your new IB-e CPU with the older Z79 chipset, but I doubt you'll get all the benefits of the new CPU. Just like if I ran a 3770 on my Z68 chipset board.