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[PropagandaWar]

Celros, on 18 June 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Im just pissed how everyone keeps complaining, even I see not all changes was put on patch noes. and Im sure we gonna see more soon. I just dont get what people expect, their clearly working hard bring best experience on mechwarrior world and you guys keep complaining. just learn choke it up if you dont have anything constructive.

I too was sure about a year ago. Now notsomuch,

[General Taskeen]

Jasen, on 18 June 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

There is no chassis specific meta... PPC's or go home.

Well Duh. But, PGI said they wanted to introduce the Quickdraw, because Meta. Its for lulz bro.

[Jasen]

Kinilan, on 18 June 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

...Says the Gold.

That's not really fair. I got gassed up by PGI's ability to talk the talk.

Pure Simulator.
Founders mechs will be awesome.
Hardcore BT heritage
yada yada yada...


Unfortunately they couldn't deliver. Had they delivered I'd be playing right now instead of posting.

If I could do it all over again... I wouldn't even make an account.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

I don't blame most founders for buying in. The original concepts were great.

I do blame the ones who refuse to see the writing on the wall though. And probably continue to give money to PGI.

[Jasen]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 18 June 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

I don't blame most founders for buying in. The original concepts were great.

I do blame the ones who refuse to see the writing on the wall though. And probably continue to give money to PGI.

Do know they've never gotten a single dollar from me since then. I also haven't bought a single hero mech because of them shafting the founders.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Jasen, on 18 June 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Do know they've never gotten a single dollar from me since then. I also haven't bought a single hero mech because of them shafting the founders.

Yeah, I bought some MC during the sale, have a Yen-lo-wang. But haven't gone back since. Only took me 3 months to realize how badly things were being run.

Like I said, I get it. We are all a bunch of suckers.

[Jasen]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 18 June 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

We are all a bunch of suckers.

Might be the truest words I've ever seen on these forums.

[Angel of Annihilation]

PPCs are overrated and weigh too much on a Quickdraw, especially due to its limited weight.

LLs are probably the best balance of range, damage, weight and heat. Try them out.

Also two of the QD variants have LT missile hardpoint so not sure why people are complaining about the CT missile hardpoint that is kind of just an extra mounting anyway. I mean it isn't like there is enough weight available that you would be boating LRMs anyway.

[Deathlike]

I am disappointed (well, I was disappointed to begin with).

The 5K seems to resemble the BJ-3, except the energy hardpoints are effectively swapped (trading arms for torso). Of course, you could effectively run better builds on the 5K than the BJ-3 by design (basically, they made the BJ too slow, whereas the Quickdraw with other "issues").

[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

Got one. Had time to play to matches with it. I liked it. Going to get two more.

[mania3c]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 18 June 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

I don't blame most founders for buying in. The original concepts were great.

I do blame the ones who refuse to see the writing on the wall though. And probably continue to give money to PGI.

Seriously ..what writings? Honestly..I never played better MW game.. and I played every single one since MW2 (including MW:LL).. I see..this game has faults ...like every single game I played ..but I am still here.. 7 months after first try of this game..I will surely give PGI more money.. maybe I don't agree with their every decision, but I am enjoying this game.. huge part of my every day work is creative process .. and I know how easy to create of illusion of flawless idea in your mind and mind of other..yet it's very hard ..and sometimes impossible..to deliver..

TBH..I am sick of these toxic communities.. not only whining and bad naming directly on developers ...even attack players, who are enjoying this game anyway.

TO the topic... didn't played QD yet..but I already saw some very effective in combat..

Edited by mania3c, 18 June 2013 - 04:22 PM.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Well bud, I'm glad you are happy.

Me on the other hand, I go back and read the old posts about their original intentions and promises. Then I see what we have now.

I watch the ECM debacle, the consumables debacle, the pop-tart debacle, the PPC debacle, the LRM debacle (see a trend here?).

Do you remember when they mentioned something about a big surprise that was coming....then had to postpone it....only to have it be a slightly different picture of a map we already knew about?

I have a very hard time ignoring the ineptitude. And NO this game is not better than every other Mechwarrior game. That is just wrong.

This game has one mode, shoot each other till we die. Every other mechwarrior game has had more depth than that. Even if part of it was driven by player created CW's (which we can't do in this lobby-lacking abomination).

So no, I vehemently disagree with you.

[Angel of Annihilation]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 18 June 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Well bud, I'm glad you are happy.

Me on the other hand, I go back and read the old posts about their original intentions and promises. Then I see what we have now.

I watch the ECM debacle, the consumables debacle, the pop-tart debacle, the PPC debacle, the LRM debacle (see a trend here?).

Do you remember when they mentioned something about a big surprise that was coming....then had to postpone it....only to have it be a slightly different picture of a map we already knew about?

I have a very hard time ignoring the ineptitude. And NO this game is not better than every other Mechwarrior game. That is just wrong.

This game has one mode, shoot each other till we die. Every other mechwarrior game has had more depth than that. Even if part of it was driven by player created CW's (which we can't do in this lobby-lacking abomination).

So no, I vehemently disagree with you.

Actually I have to agree with you on this. Back when I bought my Founders they were planning on a game that was 95% true to the table top ruleset. The whole 1.4x "Double" heat sink thing really caused me to lose faith in this game being Mechwarrior or Battletech especially when the said they acknowledged DHS were bugged but then decided they liked the bug so pretty much left it in giving us the lovely nerfed double heat sink.

Now that being said, this game is not a bad "Robowars" game sharing some similarities to actual Mechwarrior/Battletech games.

Still, based on their previous decisions, I can't see me spending more money on the game than I already did so when the Founders MC runs out, at best I will be a Freebie player occassionally.

[mania3c]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 18 June 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

Well bud, I'm glad you are happy.

Me on the other hand, I go back and read the old posts about their original intentions and promises. Then I see what we have now.

I watch the ECM debacle, the consumables debacle, the pop-tart debacle, the PPC debacle, the LRM debacle (see a trend here?).

Do you remember when they mentioned something about a big surprise that was coming....then had to postpone it....only to have it be a slightly different picture of a map we already knew about?

I have a very hard time ignoring the ineptitude. And NO this game is not better than every other Mechwarrior game. That is just wrong.

This game has one mode, shoot each other till we die. Every other mechwarrior game has had more depth than that. Even if part of it was driven by player created CW's (which we can't do in this lobby-lacking abomination).

So no, I vehemently disagree with you.

Comparing finished and patched products with beta product..well..I know I know.. it's already released..soft release..open beta..whatever..fact is MWO still works under testing condition even if you like it or not..

but okey.. I'll bite.. which MW game was better than this one?? Surely it can't be any of these I played..because nostalgia aside..if meta game of previous MW games would be present here, this forum would explode.. so..I am listening..

[TB Azrael]

Jasen, on 18 June 2013 - 01:17 PM, said:

There is no chassis specific meta... PPC's or go home.

Have seen a load of QDs and only one PPC boat and he was nothing special. The pains and best were all Med laser boats using their JJs to keep on the move.

[Lonestar1771]

Jasen, on 18 June 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

Do know they've never gotten a single dollar from me since then. I also haven't bought a single hero mech because of them shafting the founders.

I still have all my founders MC and premium time.

[ManDaisy]

Have you tried the new 5 ppc Stalker? quickdraw? It works wonders.

[Pater Mors]

Nicholas Carlyle, on 18 June 2013 - 04:54 PM, said:

I have a very hard time ignoring the ineptitude. And NO this game is not better than every other Mechwarrior game. That is just wrong.

No, it's subjective not wrong. I have played every MechWarrior game TO DEATH bar LL and I think MWO is by far the best. There's no objectivity involved in comparing games that cross so many generations. It's all completely subjective.

Does it have problems? Damn straight it does. But so did every single other MW title.

Advice that you didn't ask for? Go find something else to play.

[Motroid]

mania3c, on 18 June 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

Seriously ..what writings? Honestly..I never played better MW game.. and I played every single one since MW2 (including MW:LL).. I see..this game has faults ...like every single game I played ..but I am still here.. 7 months after first try of this game..I will surely give PGI more money.. maybe I don't agree with their every decision, but I am enjoying this game.. huge part of my every day work is creative process .. and I know how easy to create of illusion of flawless idea in your mind and mind of other..yet it's very hard ..and sometimes impossible..to deliver..

TBH..I am sick of these toxic communities.. not only whining and bad naming directly on developers ...even attack players, who are enjoying this game anyway.

TO the topic... didn't played QD yet..but I already saw some very effective in combat..

Thanks for posting this. I feel the same. Also played every single MW since MW2 in '97. MW:O is doing great in trying to satisfy everyone from CoD whinin' kiddies and F2P-losers to hardcore BT-fans and serious teamplayers. Those toxic flamers won't stay in the long run anyway...

Edited by Motroid, 18 June 2013 - 08:24 PM.

[General Taskeen]

Motroid, on 18 June 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

Pls show me that 5 energy hardpoints on a QD...

The 5K has 6.