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#361 New Day

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:08 AM

View PostProsperity Park, on 25 June 2013 - 06:42 PM, said:

Hey, if drop limits become an issue, then you might appreciate that 5 tons... two Locusts might be more useful in many situations than a single Cicada...

But a spider or a flea (arguably) will be far more useful. One has JJs and ECM, the other MASC. The only one who the drop limits will affect (in terms of calculating the tonnage) will be 8mans and potentially 4mans. PUGs are still going to drive whatever they want.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:14 AM

View PostKen Moore, on 25 June 2013 - 07:05 PM, said:

So WOW. Just read most of the first 15 pages of posts on this and I have to say one thing.

DOESN'T ANYONE READ THE DEVELOPER'S CORNER??!???!???

Back on the 14th of June they had a big Q&A thing about what was coming! Since NO ONE on this forum seems to have read it I will Re-post the easy breakdown of basically what was said.
  • 3PV being excluded from Mercenary Warfare
  • Additional Info added to Item Descriptions in UI 2
  • The fact that Lone Wolves will have their own Meta Game rewards, without having to swear loyalty a Faction
  • The fact that a Large Mercenary Corp won't automatically be able to steamroll through the IS
  • They plan on making manufacturer-specific weapon tweaks
  • More significant bases to capture
  • Base defenses
  • Introduction of Tonnage Limits for certain gametypes
  • Headshot notifications
  • Adding the ability to see friendly loadouts
  • Reduction of JJ Screen Shake to more acceptable levels
  • Added Training Grounds functionalities
  • and more upcoming changes with tournaments, Drop Modes, and info on the Test Server
Thanks to Prosperity Park for the creation of this summation of what was being done with the patch supposedly hitting the site in July!

While there is no actual release date all this information does show that the company is doing stuff besides making repeated money grab options.



Hi, I read it, this why I do not moan sthng about unfilled promises etc blah blah ... like some (many founders to my surprise) ppl do...

I HATE waiting (not only in electronic world), but it is a fact and I accept it and I really do HOPE many (I would better say ENOUGH) ppl take it same way. Because I really believe we will be more than rewarded for our patience very soon! (and if not, screw you then PGI / IGP but not now :) :wub:).

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:25 AM

View PostBrown Hornet, on 25 June 2013 - 08:44 PM, said:

No man. Where does it say u get $80 worth of MCs? All that gives u is 12 mechs (4 exclusives and 8 standard variants), 12 mechbays, premium tim and cockpit flair and phoenix tag. It's not as good as the Founder's pack cause u can't choose your mechs if u buy less than Overlord and u get NO MCs.


I am sure he meant the Founders package (If I remember well you got 20.000 MCs in one of Founfder package).

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:27 AM

Now I really want a Marauder too. :)

#365 HCubCadet1972

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:48 AM

Got my Overlord Package ordered, Now for the ability to gift Mechs, or to place them in a Pool for other players in your Company clan, merc outfit, or whatever you may wish to call it) to use in large group vs group warfare.

#366 John MatriX82

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:08 AM

So my thoughts are.. no interest in this.

I don't quite frankly want the Locust at all, I'm not a lightmech pilot. There's no added MCs in these packs, besides PT and the mechs that are given to you under form of them and the related mechbays. If any of those extra normal variants isn't worth, what do I do, I sell it after having paid real money for it instead of Cbills? Nope.

Back in the Founder time I chose the Elite because it allowed me to have a choice. I could take 1 mech among the available 4, and I didn't care less for the Jenner, the Catapult and the HBK 4G, so I gladly went for my beloved AS7-D.

With these packages if I want to get the assault, I'm forced to spend and to get the Locust as well. Please rethink the packages or add 3 intermediate tiers, like

-30$ -> Chose 1 mech to get the phoenix variant + 2 standard variants 30 days for early buy and nothing else

-50$ -> Chose 2 mechs, 2 if which phoenix and 4 standard variants 30 PT days for early buy and faction medallion

-70$ -> Chose 3 mechs, 3 phoenix, 6 total standard variants, 30+30 PT days, 2 faction medallions.


Do the above, and I might turn back to my heels and either go for the 50 or even the 70 package, since I don't really want the locust, or at least I'd like to choose what I want. Otherwise I'll be fine with my elite founder status, and will happily wait for another black friday MC sale up in the future, since it's MC sales that we all call about by months, the offer is nice and the mechs are iconic, but I don't want to be forced to get what I don't want or I don't care.

Edited by John MatriX82, 26 June 2013 - 04:33 AM.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:29 AM

So I am super stoked about this. As soon as I can, I'm begging the wife for $80 and buying into this.....

But since I'm a stickler for this kinda consistency..... Can we get the mech art up on the media concept page please? :)

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:34 AM

I still have not used the 90 days premium time for my founders package.

How will the Project Phoenix 30 day premium time effect this?

Will it stack up to 120 days?

Has the Dev team forseen this? I did not see it answered in the FAQ for the Project Phoenix.

FAQ below:
http://mwomercs.com/...sked-questions/

Edited by KDeuce, 26 June 2013 - 04:40 AM.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:44 AM

View PostCurccu, on 26 June 2013 - 02:50 AM, said:

4 new mechs, 3 variants each, including 1 unique Phoenix variant for each.
Rest of the people can buy basic variants of those mechs later but not that Phoenix variant.
--> "Phoenix BattleMechs will never be made available again."

Reading helps.
http://mwomercs.com/...sked-questions/

A bit misleading.
AFAIK, ppl can buy the "Phoenix" Variant, but it has no cosmetics and no boni included.

Essentially the same with the founder mechs; ppl can e.g. buy a Catapult-C1 now, but it will have no c-bill bonus nor the paint job.
As the "Phoenix" variant is basically the standard variant (LCT-1V, SDH-2H, TDR-5S, etc.) it would be senseless if no one could buy this variant later.

BTW, I will jump to the Overlord. :)

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:44 AM

View PostKDeuce, on 26 June 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

I still have not used the 90 days premium time for my founders package.

How will the Project Phoenix 30 day premium time effect this?

Will it stack up to 120 days?

Has the Dev team forseen this? I did not see it answered in the FAQ for the Project Phoenix.

FAQ below:
http://mwomercs.com/...sked-questions/

Q: Will I be able to choose when to begin my Premium Time?
A: Yes, all package-related Premium Time, including the ‘early bird’ Premium time benefit, will be added to your banked Premium Time. Any previously banked Premium Time will be combined with the new Premium Time; a button in the client allows the one-time activation of all your banked Premium Time.

Edited by Krzysztof z Bagien, 26 June 2013 - 04:45 AM.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:51 AM

View PostJaguar Prime, on 25 June 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

WOW!!!!! It's amazing how easily some people are distracted by a new shiny.

This is a blatant money grab. I wounder how much will be funneled to Mechwarrior Tactics or some other project.

So, where is Community Warfare? Where is UI 2.0. Where are the clan mechs?

After reading the last few pages, I guess it's doing what it's suppose to do. Distract the sheep from the current problems at hand. just my opinion.


The lack of attention span is really amazing. Tons of stuff unfinished or even explained what is under development, vital things like CW that we know almost nothing about, balance issues that has been unresolved for months. But new mechs, let's just forget about everything!

Edited by armyof1, 26 June 2013 - 05:05 AM.


#372 AllOuttaBubbleGum

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:55 AM

I'm pretty happy with this game and pgi. Complainers will complain. The net breeds them like lemmings. Always been that way. Despite being unpolished I'm having a blast every time I play and look forward to improvements. I'm having less bugs than a month or more. Still playing this over other games. It always draws me in.

#373 rascje

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:15 AM

My only regret is to haven't become a Founder because I did not know of the existence of MWO!..
What a dumbass!!!
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Overlord Package... BOUGHT!!!
<_<

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:29 AM

View Posttulip, on 26 June 2013 - 02:57 AM, said:

Q: When will the Standard Variants be purchasable with C-bills or MC?
A: For those who do not Buy a Project Phoenix Package - The Standard Variants release schedule is currently set as:
Oct 15, 2013: Locust
Nov 20, 2013: Shadowhawk
Dec 18, 2013: Thunderbolt
Jan 22, 2014: Battlemaster



To me, that looks like either;

A/ The phoenix buyer's get all their mechs on oct 15th. In which case non-buyers have to wait for up to 3 months for PGI to release them despite them being completed and buyers have to wait 4 months before a new mech is released for them.

Or

B/ The FAQ is wrong when it states all contents of the package are delivered Oct 15th


Whichever it is, lol.



Or it could mean that you'll get your Phoenix Variants first, then the standart variants of Shadow hawk/Thunderbolt/Battlemaster for free when they are released... not a likely chance but the sentence can mean this possibility also.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:32 AM

while I want my tbolt those are NOT the proper profiles for same the locust is too squared off is instead supposed to be rounded ,the s-hawk profile is too rounded and skeletal. the Tbolts cockpit is set into the upper right center torso with a flat top not that blasted R2d2 thing in the profile is supposed to be shorter and more blocky looking as well...and I do not know what mech profile that is for the battlemaster but that is so NOT a BM its not funny... the shawk t bolt and BM all are supposed to have proper hands what are these robotic claw things on the arms??? that's not proper at all.....get it effing right

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:44 AM

Lol geez o Pete,bellyachers will bellyache till the cows come home.I for one have had a blast playing this game and I'm stoked over this new package and will have it purchased by the weekend.:-) I don't mind if someone is not gonna drop a plug nickel on this game but the insistant whining is just silly.(go cry some where else)this is still BETA and things are getting better all the time,I could see and understand some of it if this was a finished product but its not.I say have fun playing and if you can't do that ,play something else.:-) :-)

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:45 AM

View PostKDeuce, on 26 June 2013 - 04:34 AM, said:

I still have not used the 90 days premium time for my founders package.

How will the Project Phoenix 30 day premium time effect this?

Will it stack up to 120 days?

Has the Dev team forseen this? I did not see it answered in the FAQ for the Project Phoenix.

FAQ below:
http://mwomercs.com/...sked-questions/


You should have 93 days dude. <_<

We have received 3 x 1 days for Free since the start. They just stack on, so one assumes these new 30 will just stack on as well for 123 days Premium time. :lol:

#378 Rigiroth

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:54 AM

So I see you paid us 120 dollars before we had any alpha footage available to you. Because you did that, we'll give you four mechs, 20k MC, and 90 days premium time.

Months pass.

But wait, pay us the low fee of 80 dollars, and we'll give you 12 mechs AND shiny medallions with a feeble bonus! You heard me right, son, 33% less money and 300% more mech cause **** you Founders who supported us. You aren't important anymore.

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Maybe they should learn from Planetary Annihilation: the game that was 80 dollars on Steam because they didn't want to shaft their kickstart backers.

#379 Tom Sawyer

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 05:55 AM

Ok I had to do it. I have been a BT fan for so long I still have hopes that PGI has what it takes to make this a winner. $80 bucks to you PGI

Please give back a balanced, fun, and outstanding game <_<

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:08 AM

What about to make a choice of interested mech as you made in elite founder pack?





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