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[Galil Nain]

Wintersdark, on 31 August 2013 - 12:39 PM, said:

You know why that is, right?

PGI has the rights to the intellectual property - the names, loadouts, concept - of the mechs, but does not have rights to the imagery. They must change and modernize them or else they risk potential (if unlikely, in the case of these Dougram mechs) lawsuits.

They need the newly implemented ones to be reminiscent of their originals when possible, but be different enough to avoid any chance of a lawsuit.

Keep in mind, with these things, it doesn't matter if they would win or lose the lawsuit - the cost of defending a potential lawsuit is much too high to risk it. The moment a lawsuit was filed, PGI would lose a massive amount of money no matter what.

All in all, I think they did a marvelous job of keeping the feel of the originals, while creating new art that better fits MWO's style.

Gotta be honest... I agree with you 100%.

That being said, however...

An additional point to bear in mind is the history of the artwork. My (albeit limited) recollection is that the "unseen" mechs are those where the artwork in the TROs came from other franchises. In BT, the primary (and, for that matter, all other) weapons tended to be integral to the chassis sectors to which they were attached, whereas in the other franchises, the mechs tended to have more anthropomorphic hands and hold traditionally-shaped (albeit slightly bigger) pistols, rifles or swords as their primary weapons. As such, this redesign could be considered as a bit of a retcon to better fit in with the rest of the mechs in BT lore.

[PawPaWuFF]

the flame reward thingy jumped from 50% to 60% yesterday

[Johnny Z]

A question. Can the dual colored striped each be colored seperately? Like the mech grey, with black and yellow stripes for instance.

[Pikey]

As a Founder trying to get back into this game after a long rest, seeing this package compared to the one we got just makes me feel sick. The 90 days I haven't activated yet looks like they are going to stay unactivated.

No more PGI.. No more.

I'll be on Star citizen not giving a **** about MWO

[Wintersdark]

Pikey, on 28 September 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

As a Founder trying to get back into this game after a long rest, seeing this package compared to the one we got just makes me feel sick. The 90 days I haven't activated yet looks like they are going to stay unactivated.

No more PGI.. No more.

I'll be on Star citizen not giving a **** about MWO

Because you felt the Founders Pack you where getting would be as good or better as any package deal offered in the future? That's a bit naive - I hope you don't expect something similar with Star Citizen, or you'll be sorely disappointed.

[Sephlock]

Asmosis, on 26 June 2013 - 12:51 AM, said:

Hi people still don't realize the art crew who develop/design/build the new mechs have nothing whatsoever to do with the other teams working on CW etc?

This is a really cool package, the only thing im left wondering is "if I already own all the mechs I would want for the next 4 months, what do I want with a cbill bonus?"

Still, they are all drawing their incomes from the same limited pool of money (budget or no budget ).

I imagine them like the rulers of North Korea, eating caviar off of solid gold plates while the peons in the next room slave away with ragged clothing on an Apple IIe. Yes, ONE Apple IIe, between them.

[Nick Makiaveli]

Ok stupid question time.....

I read the FAQ, but I just want to confirm that I can pick up the Talon package now, then come back later and upgrade to the Storm later right?

Basically I want the Shadowhawk, but having a hard time convincing myself to pay $40 for it. So trying to trick myself into just getting the Locust for future loyalty grinds, and then sneak the SHD in the back door later on

Then I just have to make sure I don't run tell the wife on myself....why yes honey I INVESTED that money in BATTLEMECHS!! Yea that's the ticket....

**edit**
On the odd chance someone sees this and has the same question, yes you can. I bought the Talon package, and now the Buy Now button for Talon is greyed out, on the left side Talon says Current, and all the other prices dropped by $20.

Edited by Nick Makiaveli, 29 September 2013 - 12:36 PM.

[Blood78]

Are we going to have ability to pick Merc Corp as our LP Medallion?



I'm in a Merc Unit and I want to earn LP for the Merc corp, not any of factions. If I recall correctly, Merc Corp was going to have its own system to unlock content like various Houses are right? If we don't earn LP for the Merc Corp, we can't unlock content.


http://mwomercs.com/...munity-warfare/

[Bilbo]

Blood78, on 30 September 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Are we going to have ability to pick Merc Corp as our LP Medallion?



I'm in a Merc Unit and I want to earn LP for the Merc corp, not any of factions. If I recall correctly, Merc Corp was going to have its own system to unlock content like various Houses are right? If we don't earn LP for the Merc Corp, we can't unlock content.


http://mwomercs.com/...munity-warfare/

You are going to need to earn both.

[DirePhoenix]

Blood78, on 30 September 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Are we going to have ability to pick Merc Corp as our LP Medallion?



I'm in a Merc Unit and I want to earn LP for the Merc corp, not any of factions. If I recall correctly, Merc Corp was going to have its own system to unlock content like various Houses are right? If we don't earn LP for the Merc Corp, we can't unlock content.


http://mwomercs.com/...munity-warfare/

You may be talking about two different things. Player Merc Corps pick up missions for house factions. The Player Merc Corps have no reputation of their own, per se, but it helps the players within it get loyalty rep by working contracts for the house factions.

Then there are canon NPC Merc Corps Units, which have been described as essentially the same as house factions, but there may be other prerequisites to joining them (like 100% rep w/ all House factions to join Wolf's Dragoons).

<There should be some holes becoming visible with this plan since they've also said that no one loses reputation gained... as in, everyone, given a long enough period, would be eligible Wolf's Dragoons Mercs, but then where would you go from there?>

[Orbit Rain]

DirePhoenix, on 30 September 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

<There should be some holes becoming visible with this plan since they've also said that no one loses reputation gained... as in, everyone, given a long enough period, would be eligible Wolf's Dragoons Mercs, but then where would you go from there?>

Northwind Highlanders of course!

[Lord Ikka]

DirePhoenix, on 30 September 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

<There should be some holes becoming visible with this plan since they've also said that no one loses reputation gained... as in, everyone, given a long enough period, would be eligible Wolf's Dragoons Mercs, but then where would you go from there?>

Back home to the Clan worlds...

[Tyrnea Smurf]

From Wolfs Dragoons to the Clans?

I could see that as their progression of content, where you start CW fighting in, for, and against the enemy House faction of your group (Houses Steiner/Davion - Federated Commonwealth vs Kurita/Marik/Liao - Concord of Kapteyn, and the wildcard Free Rasalhague Republic.

Then you progress in the merc tree/faction to get the required rep with the opposing factions (say you start as a Kuritian/Liao/Marik, then once your faction is capped out, you got to go merc working for the FedComs, then the FRR to get your standing into position to join/unlock Wolfs Dragoons.

Once Wolfs Dragoons unlocks only then would Clan technologies be available to you (i'd start with Clan weapons/equipment/engines which become available as your Wolfs Dragoons standing increases. Only once you cap the Dragoons are Omnimechs unlocked. (which would be semi-lore based as the Dragoons are the only Inner Sphere organization who has Clan tech at the start of the invasion), and once you unlock Clan tech you could then start the new progression of the 4 Clan Factions fighting for or against the Jade Falcons, Wolves, Ghost Bears, or Smoke Jaguars.

This would be the in game earnable way to Clan tech/OmniMechs.

The other way to option into the Clans is to have access to them as a founders/phoenix project style of paid content. Either buy your way into the clans, or grind/play your way in.

However since the launch party in San Fran indicated that CW was at best 6 to 18 months away, and PGI is looking at the 3 month window of the Phoenix Project as the production window to build the first 4 to 6 clan mechs with introduction of them in the 1st or 2nd quarter of 2014, I think there is no way this would come to pass.

[MasterErrant]

gfierce, on 25 June 2013 - 11:13 AM, said:

Anybody notice that the versions of the thunderbolt and battlemaster are clan retrofits.

both at the dead stock standard models. I don't see a list of the other varaints planned but the ones listed are the originals not clan refits.

[Cimarb]

Arn Cronkar, on 01 October 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

Stupid question about the Project Phoenix package (specifically overlord), everything that comes with it come out on the 15th right? Premium time, hanging medallions, forum title? (I know the mechs come out the 15th so its not that stupid)

This is answered in the Project Phoenix FAQ. All items are released on the 15th.

Edited for typos...

Edited by Cimarb, 02 October 2013 - 12:43 PM.

[anfadern]

Items: Saber Reinforcements Amount: $30.00
Your purchase is complete.

Edited by anfadern, 03 October 2013 - 09:45 AM.

[MisterPlanetarian]

anfadern, on 03 October 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

Items: Saber Reinforcements Amount: $30.00
Your purchase is complete.

I've been thinking about it but I'm not a huge medium mech fan. We'll see, shadowhawk looks like it will keep me busy. Even though a 115kph streakboat with 7 jump jets seems like alot of fun.

Edited by MisterPlanetarian, 03 October 2013 - 10:48 AM.

[M4NTiC0R3X]

Yay! It's unlocked!! I have made my 'mechs so shiny and now I know these ones will be extra shiny as well!!!

[Heffay]

Mmmm.... that new Mech smell!

[BabyCheesus]

Faction Medallions:

Is there a time limit on when we choose our faction medallions?

Given that the clans will be a new faction in the future, what if I hold out and wait to see if I can get a clan faction medallion instead? Is that allowed?