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Lights/mediums Useless, Assaults Rule, Pgi Agrees, Role Warfare Is A Myth Now Debunked


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#21 A banana in the tailpipe

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 02:43 PM

View PostRasako, on 25 June 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

in a cicada that's hardly anything to be proud of, it might as well be a light for as fast and agile as it is, most workhorse medium mechs are total **** right now though, and after the SRM changes there's no reason to play them because they lost any threat potential that they had.


I also sold my Cicada right away because the hit boxes made it impossible to compete. I'd say he did pretty good with those numbers and you're just being elitist.

#22 Revorn

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 02:48 PM

Mediums can contribute well to a Team, but they are hard to master to that level of Skill.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 02:50 PM

View Postlockwoodx, on 25 June 2013 - 02:38 PM, said:

None of my mechs move over 80kph except for the spider...
How many of those are under 55 tons?

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostRevorn, on 25 June 2013 - 02:48 PM, said:

Mediums can contribute well to a Team, but they are hard to master to that level of Skill.


Often lights/medium does like 700 damage but, most likely they would have done the same or better in a assault.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 02:53 PM

View PostAimRobot, on 25 June 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:


Often lights/medium does like 700 damage but, most likely they would have done the same or better in a assault.


To contribute to your Team, its not all about damage done by yourselft. If you like to make Dammage you are maybe better in an Assault, thats true.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:06 PM

I'm going Overlord.

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#27 Dracol

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:09 PM

View PostAimRobot, on 25 June 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:


Often lights/medium does like 700 damage but, most likely they would have done the same or better in a assault.

Possibly...possibly not.
One of the keys to being a med pilot and getting high damage is by being a low priority target.

Assualts are nearly always focus fired first.

Edited by Dracol, 25 June 2013 - 03:10 PM.


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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostRevorn, on 25 June 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:


To contribute to your Team, its not all about damage done by yourselft. If you like to make Dammage you are maybe better in an Assault, thats true.


Its just not worth it, same reason why 8v8 had to make ton limitation.

#29 Foxfire

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:12 PM

I disagree that lights are useless.

The problem is with the way matchmaking works.

I pilots lights almost exclusively(i do pop into an illy when I wanna fling around some hot lead).. and I find that if I drop into a group with 3 other lights or fast medium pilots, we can almost dominate.

However, if I drop into a group with nothing but heavy and assaults, then I know I'm screwed.

It is all in the luck of the draw (if you are pugging).

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostDracol, on 25 June 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Possibly...possibly not.
One of the keys to being a med pilot and getting high damage is by being a low priority target.

Assualts are nearly always focus fired first.


I also go after big mechs first, cause i dont fear small mechs and if a small mech rush in behind me chances are one of my team m8s will 1 shot him while it while take him almost 1 minute to kill me.

#31 Revorn

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:16 PM

View PostAimRobot, on 25 June 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:


Its just not worth it, same reason why 8v8 had to make ton limitation.


I wouldnt say thats is not worth, but it needs more work to make it worth, than in an Assault.

#32 Doden Kriger

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:21 PM

everyone that is bashing lights/Meds are simply bad and crying

#33 DocBach

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:23 PM

or like, they understand higher level of play in this game?

#34 AimRobot

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:24 PM

Increasing the strenght of light medium and not making them survive on hitboxes and buggy JJ animations, would reduce the current PPC battle which i myself use.
Cause us PPC boats rely on getting our cooldown moments, but if we couldnt kill those mechs in 1-2 alphas and not get cooldown moments you might see a better game.

Edited by AimRobot, 25 June 2013 - 03:32 PM.


#35 AimRobot

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:37 PM

View PostARCTIC F0X, on 25 June 2013 - 03:21 PM, said:

everyone that is bashing lights/Meds are simply bad and crying


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#36 Josef Koba

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:39 PM

I don't know much 'cause I pilot Jagers most of the time, but perhaps one way to improve role warfare would be to increase and/or create incentives for people to play the roles of light mechs, which I gather is scouting and spotting targets and perhaps even capturing. I have the X-5 and when I drive it I am trying to scout and lase targets for my teammates to kill. I do virtually no damage and at the end of the match I have very little XP and far less money than I would had I been in my Jager Double D. The NARC/Tag reward seems prohibitively low. One might think that there would be a mechanism for giving the sort of points one gets for assists to a light that is locking a target so that Catapult can shower it with missiles. Something like that? I just know that from an XP/C-bills perspective I have little incentive to pilot a light other than role playing.

#37 Dashwood Fox

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 03:48 PM

Lights and mediums aren't useless. They just require very different tactics than heavies and assaults. Though PPCs do need to be nerfed again via heat penalties.

Nerfing Seismic definitely would help. It hurts light scouts more than it helps them. I think they should change it so you only get readings while you're mostly stopped or going less than 20 kph.

View PostAimRobot, on 25 June 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:


I also go after big mechs first, cause i dont fear small mechs and if a small mech rush in behind me chances are one of my team m8s will 1 shot him while it while take him almost 1 minute to kill me.


Don't ignore me for a minute! With that amount of time I could core 2 or 3 assaults in the back with my Jenner or Raven ;)

Edited by Dashwood Fox, 25 June 2013 - 03:49 PM.


#38 AimRobot

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:09 PM

View PostDashwood Fox, on 25 June 2013 - 03:48 PM, said:


Don't ignore me for a minute! With that amount of time I could core 2 or 3 assaults in the back with my Jenner or Raven ;)



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#39 BladeSplint

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:25 PM

View PostAimRobot, on 25 June 2013 - 03:37 PM, said:


>.>

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I didn't realize they gave out medals for seventh place.

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 04:36 PM

View PostBladeSplint, on 25 June 2013 - 04:25 PM, said:


I didn't realize they gave out medals for seventh place.

Dont think they give out medals for first place so ;)





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