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[MustrumRidcully]

I sense that some community members are unhappy with the performance of SRMs.

So, what do you think?

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 27 June 2013 - 01:25 AM.

[blinkin]

i think SRM are just about perfect where they are. just give me proper hit detection on fast mechs and i will be happy (it is frustrating to watch a light mech take more direct hits than any assault mech ever could).

[MustrumRidcully]

Wow, the first poll was supposed to be obviosuly biased, but how did I mistype the thread title like that?

[John MatriX82]

So no "yes" option, just a tiny little biased thread.

I say: yes, buff these srms, they are like shooting peanuts in mass, resulting in ridiculous damage inflicted to the target.

This by the absence of damage and by the silly tube like pattern.. I want the old pulsing concentration path back! At least you knew that at 150m, 70m and below, you could score some solid hits in rather precise areas of the enemy target.

Back in the day there was a much higher damage per missile + the bugged splash. Now the splas isn't threre anymore and the damage is ridiculous, the flight path makes them even more ridiculous and doesn't award you any bonus when you want to get up close like the previous SRMs did when you successfuly mad it within 100m from your target.

Worthless SRMs + Seismic Sensor + hell of PPC/GRs and brawling has become a forgotten way to fight. Buffing SRMs for good will shift the gameplay back to something more balanced, at least you have an option if you want to get up close.

[MustrumRidcully]

John MatriX82, on 27 June 2013 - 01:34 AM, said:

So no "yes" option, just a tiny little biased thread.

Yes. There is not all that much disagreement o nthe topic, considering how many "Buff SRM" topics this forum has. So I though to make the first question a joke. Even a biased poll can not alway guarantee confirmation of that bias, as we see here.
Let's call it a social experiment.

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Worthless SRMs + Seismic Sensor + hell of PPC/GRs and brawling has become a forgotten way to fight. Buffing SRMs for good will shift the gameplay back to something more balanced, at least you have an option if you want to get up close.

I am still not sur eif it would be enough, but I am absolutely certian it will help and it's necessary.

[John MatriX82]

MustrumRidcully, on 27 June 2013 - 02:48 AM, said:

Yes. There is not all that much disagreement o nthe topic, considering how many "Buff SRM" topics this forum has. So I though to make the first question a joke. Even a biased poll can not alway guarantee confirmation of that bias, as we see here.
Let's call it a social experiment.


I am still not sur eif it would be enough, but I am absolutely certian it will help and it's necessary.

MustrumRidcully, on 27 June 2013 - 02:48 AM, said:

Yes. There is not all that much disagreement o nthe topic, considering how many "Buff SRM" topics this forum has. So I though to make the first question a joke. Even a biased poll can not alway guarantee confirmation of that bias, as we see here.
Let's call it a social experiment.

Ok then but yet there's truly no "**** yeah" option, so I can't post the vote nevertheless

[xenoglyph]

Props.

Hey, somebody go and bump my threads on page 2 would ya?

[Zyllos]

Should be increased to 2.0 per SRM (leave it 1.5 per SSRM) and then make them ripple fire to balance out alpha strikes.

Smaller launchers won't feel much different with ripple fire and boating a bunch of SRM/2's is not much of a problem at 2.0 damage per SRM. But a bunch of SRM/4 and SRM/6 would lead to issues at 2.0 per SRM, even with thier current spread.

The ripple firing effect will require mechs to aim their launchers for a fraction of a second (assuming they ripple fire at a rate of 1 SRM per 0.1s) per launcher fired. This would also add to the visual fidelity of the game.

Edited by Zyllos, 27 June 2013 - 06:03 AM.

[BillyM]

2.0dmg SRM (not SSRM) NOW!

...and make anyone running more than 3x srm6's suffer heat penalties like they were talking about with PPC's.

Mediums viable, Boating nerfed, done...

--billyM

Edited by BillyM, 27 June 2013 - 06:53 AM.

[jakucha]

The damage could be bumped up a bit, but I don't blame them for not rushing the numbers upward.

[Lightfoot]

They need a tighter flight path at max distance, so at some point they need to go straight. Where I don't know.

[blinkin]

Lightfoot, on 27 June 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

They need a tighter flight path at max distance, so at some point they need to go straight. Where I don't know.

i like this idea. and holy crap i am blind for not considering it before. i got stuck in the damned cone mentality.

[Peter2000]

Troll poll is troll poll. We have 2 "no" options, 1 "maybe", and 1 "abstain". I get it - you like the word "no". Then why on earth is there not a "No ****, Sherlock?" option.

[MaddMaxx]

BillyM, on 27 June 2013 - 06:52 AM, said:

2.0dmg SRM (not SSRM) NOW!

...and make anyone running more than 3x srm6's suffer heat penalties like they were talking about with PPC's.

Mediums viable, Boating nerfed, done...

--billyM

OK then, riddle me this.

Issue currently is getting to target(s) across whatever open ground is needed, in good shape enough to fight on after arriving.

Problem child: The PPC/Gauss (or 6).

Question: How is having a slightly better SRM rocket launcher going to help you get across that deadly divide any better, or in better shape, than now?

Answer: It won't. You will still suffer the PPC/Gauss onslaught, just as before, but yes, you will certainly be consoled by knowing that IF you had made it, in relatively good shape, you would still die to those same Boats, just as it happens now.

Edited by MaddMaxx, 27 June 2013 - 11:11 AM.

[blinkin]

MaddMaxx, on 27 June 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

OK then, riddle me this.

Issue currently is getting to target(s) across whatever open ground is needed, in good shape enough to fight on after arriving.

Problem child: The PPC/Gauss (or 6).

Question: How is having a slightly better SRM rocket launcher going to help you get across that deadly divide any better, or in better shape, than now?

Answer: It won't. You will still suffer the PPC/Gauss onslaught, just as before, but yes, you will certainly be consoled by knowing that IF you had made it, in relatively good shape, you would still die to those same Boats, just as it happens now.

i mentioned this before and most ignored the issue.

[MaddMaxx]

blinkin, on 27 June 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

i mentioned this before and most ignored the issue.

Logic has no place blinkin, sad but true.

[blinkin]

MaddMaxx, on 27 June 2013 - 11:21 AM, said:

Logic has no place blinkin, sad but true.

just give everyone a knife that insta gibs any mech with a PPC and of course it will balance everything perfectly!

[Kaldor]

Current implementation of SRMs....

[Sephlock]

Why aren't all the options some variant of "yes"?

[Kunae]

MaddMaxx, on 27 June 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

OK then, riddle me this.

Issue currently is getting to target(s) across whatever open ground is needed, in good shape enough to fight on after arriving.

Problem child: The PPC/Gauss (or 6).

Question: How is having a slightly better SRM rocket launcher going to help you get across that deadly divide any better, or in better shape, than now?

Answer: It won't. You will still suffer the PPC/Gauss onslaught, just as before, but yes, you will certainly be consoled by knowing that IF you had made it, in relatively good shape, you would still die to those same Boats, just as it happens now.

Because people, other than you, who actually know how to play, can find ways to get close and kill them.

Unlike now, where even if you are able to get close, you don't have enough punch to kill them quickly enough.