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[Bishop Steiner]

We ain't gonna get the Unseen. Period, deal with it. And TBH the thing would not be able to walk anyhow, so aide from cool visuals, we ain't losing much.

Shimmering Swords take will never get past the HG lawyers. Just a fact.

So probably the best shots would be ones based of the Project Phoenix designs, which I am OK with, as it has potential. That said, I still want some elements of the Unseen in it, so am continuing my quest (my previous 2 can be found at my DeviantArt page, here:
http://bishopsteiner.deviantart.com/

so for a rough sketch, this is one where I try to salvage the Macross legs by adding a second knee, so that it would actually be able to walk and run.
The overall geometry is based of the PP version, with the more traditional pods (modded to resemble the Cataphract one) and more of the jutting cyclops cockpit to tie into the original.


Input?

OK, v2, with a Shimmering Sword inspired canopy (and one more likely to be MWO stye)


and V2 with the Canopy Shroud, which I prefer (especially since the fluff talks about the obscured field of view in a Marauders cockpit)


Thoughts?

BONUS ART SECTION: The evolution of the Marauder

rough concept in margin of a notebook


First Iteration:

(people QQ'd it looked to skinny and fragile. Hello? It's a Marauder, it's supposed to be gangly and alien and insectile.)

Second Iteration: MAD-3R "Succession Wars" Marauder

(intentionally less smooth, more "rebuilt from scrap" look)

Third Iteration: MAD-2R "SLDF" Marauder

(Smooth, finished look supposed to suggest high-tech, advanced Mech fresh from the assembly line.)

So there you have it. I Thought I was finished with the MAD series, before an Idea based around the Macross version's legs popped to mind.

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 20 July 2013 - 05:25 AM.

[zudukai]

dig it!

[Nathan Foxbane]

I like the cockpit on Shimmering Swords' design. Maybe hybridize the two? Personally I was never a fan of the classic Marauder look. The new, more Cicada like legs work and the pods keep the Marauder feel. The vent ports on the barrel shroud for the AC/5 feel too MG like. It would more likely have an armored liquid cooling jacket.

[Joseph Mallan]

One small issue, Officially the PPC was the top gun on the mount. Artistic Licence aside, The nose needs to be a bit shorter in my eyes. But I do really like what you have here Bishop!

[Thomas Covenant]

+1

[Skye Storm]

Joseph Mallan, on 05 July 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

One small issue, Officially the PPC was the top gun on the mount. Artistic Licence aside, The nose needs to be a bit shorter in my eyes. But I do really like what you have here Bishop!

Hate to disagree but the MAD has the AC5 on the head, a ppc and medium laser in each arm.

[Khord]

I believe he ment that the PPC was over the ML in the arm pod, not under the ML.

[Spike Brave]

Joseph Mallan, on 05 July 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

One small issue, Officially the PPC was the top gun on the mount. Artistic Licence aside, The nose needs to be a bit shorter in my eyes. But I do really like what you have here Bishop!

The MAD 3R mounts an autocannon 5 on top. The MAD 5S has a gauss rifle. I would guess it is one of these.
It looks great.
Edit for typo in Mech Designation.

Edited by Spike Brave, 05 July 2013 - 02:19 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Joseph Mallan, on 05 July 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

One small issue, Officially the PPC was the top gun on the mount. Artistic Licence aside, The nose needs to be a bit shorter in my eyes. But I do really like what you have here Bishop!

yeah, i took artistic liberty there, for a couple of reasons.

1) It further distances the weapons/image form the Macross kiss of death.
2) The Cataphract does it, and it's arm is supposed to be a recycled MAD arm (and it's the left arm, the SHD one that is "upside down)
3) I just thought it looked kinda cool. Though I might juggle the hardpoint on different models.

Also, will see about hybridizing the canopy from SS' version, and might play with shortening it, but the forward jutting canopy was a classic Unseen MAD visual cue.

[DasFreshMaker]

I actually like your vision of the MAD. The others that I've seen seem to be either too blocky, or a touch too "organic". (the one that has the cockpit more oval w/ lots of windows)

I'd like to see a "cleaner" version of your drawing.

(oh. and I like the extra joint in the shin. would probably make the walking animation smoother)

[Max OConnor]

Love it, I can't wait to see the final version.

[Foxdie]

I really like this rough draft, tho it there is absolutely no mistake that it is the Marauder.

I personally dig the reverse PPC setup on the arms.

You did the same thing I did with the AC/5 too....on the shoulder instead of center top...tho mine is not quite so recognizable. I went for some key features but wanted it to be different enough to not fall into question on if it could be used.

Either way I hope you post more work!!

[Foster Bondroff]

Hello Bishop,

have you ever considered to redo the marauder base on the current primitive Eisenfaust design?

See here http://img.masteruni...ust%20EFT-2.png

I find this design, althought it has completely different legs, captures many of the unique things of the original design without any legal issues.

[Viper69]

I like it!

[Magik0012]

Foster Bondroff, on 11 July 2013 - 05:39 AM, said:

Hello Bishop,

have you ever considered to redo the marauder base on the current primitive Eisenfaust design?

See here http://img.masteruni...ust%20EFT-2.png

I find this design, althought it has completely different legs, captures many of the unique things of the original design without any legal issues.

Hmm.. I kind of like that design too.. it needs.. something.. can't quite pin down what tho.. may be the legs, as you say..

[Foster Bondroff]

Not an artist myself, more a modeller. Cause of this i just linked to the picture, not moding it.

Sadly the primitive Eisenfaust is not yet availiable as miniature.
But if i had it and would do a mod to make it more "maraudish" this is what i would prolly do:

- use larger feet elements and choose the more classic marauder approach of 2 claws fore and aft
- remove the two barrels below the cockpit
- use modified arms base on the left arm of the drawing, maybe only keeping shoulder/upper arm elements and completely change the lower arm to a marauder style or MW phract style weapon pod

These three things would be a good start and should produce a very "maraudish" mech.

I would not touch the different lower/upper legs and hip cause to my surprise they already give a very good impression of how the old design stood above the ground and that without any movement restrictions.

[Duncan Jr Fischer]

Very good job, totally love this redesign.

[Odinson]

Bishop, I have searched for a long time for renditions of the WHM and MAD that were sufficiently deviated from the "UnSeen" art yet still made me say to myself "damn, that is SEXY."

Congratulations. Not only have you created art that is suitably different, but you have drawn renderings that have REPLACED the original art, in my mind.

This is the BEST version of the MAD chassis I have seen, period. Inspired by the "ReSeen" but with subtle design cues that remind us of the original. Brilliant, in a word. This would be a very interesting 'Mech to see in MW:O, with the low-slung cockpit and CDA-esque legs.

I also love your "Hot Hammer," though I am slightly more enamored of your "WHM-6R v. 2.0" with the squared PPC shrouds and the moon hanging in the background. I see hints of the ZEU in it, and I love the right AND left torso-mounted flood lights. I can certainly see where the missile pod on the shoulder could be a sticking point with the Harmony-Gold issue though.

Either way, your depictions of these classic heavy-class battlemechs are beautiful, and I just about want to print them out and tape them over the artwork in my old 3025 readout I like them so much.

So when do you start your new concept art position with Piranha? ;-)

[Bishop Steiner]

Odinson, on 11 July 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

Bishop, I have searched for a long time for renditions of the WHM and MAD that were sufficiently deviated from the "UnSeen" art yet still made me say to myself "damn, that is SEXY."

Congratulations. Not only have you created art that is suitably different, but you have drawn renderings that have REPLACED the original art, in my mind.

This is the BEST version of the MAD chassis I have seen, period. Inspired by the "ReSeen" but with subtle design cues that remind us of the original. Brilliant, in a word. This would be a very interesting 'Mech to see in MW:O, with the low-slung cockpit and CDA-esque legs.

I also love your "Hot Hammer," though I am slightly more enamored of your "WHM-6R v. 2.0" with the squared PPC shrouds and the moon hanging in the background. I see hints of the ZEU in it, and I love the right AND left torso-mounted flood lights. I can certainly see where the missile pod on the shoulder could be a sticking point with the Harmony-Gold issue though.

Either way, your depictions of these classic heavy-class battlemechs are beautiful, and I just about want to print them out and tape them over the artwork in my old 3025 readout I like them so much.

So when do you start your new concept art position with Piranha? ;-)

When someone with the power to get Alex, Paul or Bryan to look, gets them to look?

[Rose Scented Love Puff]

Very much like your design Bishop. I still prefer the top torso weapon in the center but then it likely just creates more issues and **** retention. Were there legal issues with the MAD II ?