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[Tennex]

They should have it prepared the month before. to drop the first of the month.

kind of dumb to get a director update for the month after the first patch, when 1/2 of it is already known.


its basically a july creative director update of the second patch.

[Wieland]

Deathlike, on 09 July 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

It'll be ready by July 16. There's too much in the pipeline to be detailing how epic this month will be!

Epic failure i guess.

[Tennex]

Niko Snow, on 09 July 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

Preparing such updates too far in advance can be problematic.
We're aware some of you are eager to see this update "right nao!1!".
Please stay frosty; It'll be up as soon as possible.

I don't think its asking too much for the monthly update to inform of the actual month (before the first patch), instead of just half of it.

It may be hard sometimes to predict 2 patches ahead what will go in. but PGI is supposed to be 2 builds ahead anyway, and i think the players would understand the update is tentative if it is stated as so.

Edited by Tennex, 09 July 2013 - 07:33 AM.

[Chavette]

Niko Snow, on 09 July 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

Preparing such updates too far in advance can be problematic.
We're aware some of you are eager to see this update "right nao!1!".
Please stay frosty; It'll be up as soon as possible.

He didn't say today or tomorrow... you know what that means...

Probably it means "Soon".

[Deathlike]

Niko Snow, on 09 July 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

Preparing such updates too far in advance can be problematic.
We're aware some of you are eager to see this update "right nao!1!".
Please stay frosty; It'll be up as soon as possible.

Even if we give you a break on not getting it released early on Canada's Independence Day, it technically irresponsible compared to the previous Creative Director updates by comparison. It does not reflect well at all, so technically these updates SHOULD have been prepared somewhat in advance.

[Deathlike]

Let's just go on "track record" in order to make a fair comparison:

June 4:
http://mwomercs.com/...irector-update/

May 3:
http://mwomercs.com/...irector-update/

April 3:
http://mwomercs.com/...irector-update/

March 4:
http://mwomercs.com/...irector-update/

Feb 4:
http://mwomercs.com/...veloper-update/

By previous posts - this is by far late.

[Wieland]

Note to myself:
Dont expect anymore CDUs.

[irony1999]

The obvious conclusion is that they've delayed the July update because they have no idea what they'll be able to release in July. I assume they know whats in the patch a week out, so my best guess is they can't get the public test environment working, and are delaying the announcement until they can say something definitive about it.

[xZaOx]

I heard its not the Creative Director Update that's delayed but the month itself.

[InRev]

BIG things in July, guys!

BIG!!!

[JeremyCrow]

Niko Snow, on 09 July 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

Preparing such updates too far in advance can be problematic.
We're aware some of you are eager to see this update "right nao!1!".
Please stay frosty; It'll be up as soon as possible.

So create a news article explaining that you're holding off July's CDU for some reason. Just don't ignore your community.

[xZaOx]

Update up!

[RG Notch]

xZaOx, on 09 July 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

Update up!

Maybe if the July update offered something for sale for MCs we'd have it by now.

[deforce]

ALERT! Official PGI update!!!

"No Update"

[Gevurah]

You'll notice no updates from bryan on twitter either. I'm willing to bet he's incommunicado due to one of those famous canadian "vacations". AKA went on a canada day bender and woke up in paraguay.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Niko Snow, on 09 July 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

Preparing such updates too far in advance can be problematic.
We're aware some of you are eager to see this update "right nao!1!".
Please stay frosty; It'll be up as soon as possible.

Niko no offense but that's bull. Previous months were out on time. Problem is that as of the last few months, Ekman obviously can't be bothered anymore.

EDIT And regardless, the fact one of the head Devs can't hit a deadline with a page of text is telling, it's not like this is brain surgery or Community Warfare. If one of the leaders of this company can't hit a deadline with something so simple as a bloody page of text then obviously he's not going to be anything but an anchor around the company's neck when it comes to CW and other things that are actually DIFFICULT.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 09 July 2013 - 12:06 PM.

[Tennex]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 09 July 2013 - 12:01 PM, said:

Niko no offense but that's bull. Previous months were out on time. Problem is that as of the last few months, Ekman obviously can't be bothered anymore.

EDIT And regardless, the fact one of the head Devs can't hit a deadline with a page of text is telling, it's not like this is brain surgery or Community Warfare. If one of the leaders of this company can't hit a deadline with something so simple as a bloody page of text then obviously he's not going to be anything but an anchor around the company's neck when it comes to CW and other things that are actually DIFFICULT.

basically half of the creative director update is already done in the July 2nd patch notes.

And it was only a page in the first place. So half a page of work.

Edited by Tennex, 09 July 2013 - 12:15 PM.

[Sir Roland MXIII]

Keep in mind theres 3 Tuesdays this month so the "half" datapoint could be innacurate. It also doesn't matter either - the deadline is already missed, if you want them to kick the can down the road here, then you accept them doing so with CW and Clans, etc, as well.

EDIT @Niko - Another thing about your bull post - as far as Ekman not wanting to put out a CDU that could end up innacurate, thats funny you should use the other team members at PGI missing THEIR deadlines as a defense for Ekman missing HIS. If he really gave a d*** about his deadline with the CDU he'd just post probability factors for how likely any one piece of any given patch would be to go live (like he used to do), OR just post in his CDU what stuff is already a lock.

He doesn't, so obviously he's also unable to solve his own issues with the CDU, which isn't exactly as difficult as coding.

Edited by Sir Roland MXIII, 09 July 2013 - 01:06 PM.

[Tennex]

Sir Roland MXIII, on 09 July 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

Keep in mind theres 3 Tuesdays this month so the "half" datapoint could be innacurate. It also doesn't matter either - the deadline is already missed, if you want them to kick the can down the road here, then you accept them doing so with CW and Clans, etc, as well.

EDIT @Niko - As far as Ekman not wanting to put out a CDU that could end up innacurate, thats funny you should use the other team members at PGI missing THEIR deadlines as a defense againt Ekman missing HIS. If he really gave a d*** about his deadline with the CDU he'd just post probability factors for how likely any one piece of any given patch would be to go live (like he used to do), OR just post in his CDU what stuff is already a lock.

He doesn't, so obviously he's also unable to solve his own issues with the CDU, which isn't exactly as difficult as coding.

i don't think they've ever done 3 patches in a month, even when there was 3 tuesdays spaced a week apart each.

wev had that twice now i believe

Edited by Tennex, 09 July 2013 - 01:11 PM.

[Genewen]

Niko Snow, on 09 July 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

Preparing such updates too far in advance can be problematic.
We're aware some of you are eager to see this update "right nao!1!".
Please stay frosty; It'll be up as soon as possible.

You see Niko, as someone involved in game development I can totally understand that sometimes, it will just not be clear what will make the patch and what will not. That just cannot be helped. Especially in that extremely busy phase when approaching a release. although in cases like with MW:O, I actually consider that term a joke.

The uncertainties of patching are however no excuse whatsoever for not communicating with your playerbase. If a CDU cannot be completed due to this, either make a CDU about what you do know and add a part saying that you might be able to add some more, but are not sure about it, or just make an announcement that this month's CDU will either not happen or only happen in the second half of the month. Saying nothing is not good community management.

Edited by Genewen, 09 July 2013 - 01:18 PM.