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[Strum Wealh]

Stonefalcon, on 10 July 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

There are 4 variants available now, quickdraw only has 3, how can there be not enough variants?

You got the Quad AC/10 model, the Quad LBX/10 model, the Quad PPC model and the Triple Gauss + PPC model.

The ANH-1G (the "Triple Gauss + PPC model") was designed by the SLDF years after they left the Inner Sphere, and would have been totally unknown in the IS.

By contrast, each of the currently-extant variants (the ANH-1A, ANH-1E, and ANH-2A) has been used by the Wolf's Dragoons during their time in the Inner Sphere up to the "present".
If the Annihilator is implemented, it is (IMO) likely that it would be limited to the three currently-extant variants (that is, the ones that are actually known in the IS).

[General Taskeen]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 09 July 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

love to see this baby on the battlefield. 4 LBX 10 - that's just sexy stuff.

With other Mech Warrior games LB-X, yeah. Totally useless at this point in time in the game.

[General Taskeen]

I like the original Annihilator look better. Way more sleek looking with that sexy smooth side torso and center torso rounded angles area with no lego blocks.

[Stonefalcon]

Strum Wealh, on 10 July 2013 - 04:55 PM, said:

The ANH-1G (the "Triple Gauss + PPC model") was designed by the SLDF years after they left the Inner Sphere, and would have been totally unknown in the IS.

By contrast, each of the currently-extant variants (the ANH-1A, ANH-1E, and ANH-2A) has been used by the Wolf's Dragoons during their time in the Inner Sphere up to the "present".
If the Annihilator is implemented, it is (IMO) likely that it would be limited to the three currently-extant variants (that is, the ones that are actually known in the IS).

You say no to the Annihilator being introduced because of it's extreme rarity? The Highlander is a Comstar only mech and they didn't give any away due to the level of tech in them so why is the Inner Sphere currently full of mechwarrior companies running nothing but Highlanders?

The rarity is no excuse for them not to introduce this mech when the highlander is rarer still. No factory in the IS can produce the highlander while the Dragoons have their own contract with Blackwell Industries to produce these.

[Strum Wealh]

Stonefalcon, on 11 July 2013 - 04:50 AM, said:

You say no to the Annihilator being introduced because of it's extreme rarity? The Highlander is a Comstar only mech and they didn't give any away due to the level of tech in them so why is the Inner Sphere currently full of mechwarrior companies running nothing but Highlanders?

The rarity is no excuse for them not to introduce this mech when the highlander is rarer still. No factory in the IS can produce the highlander while the Dragoons have their own contract with Blackwell Industries to produce these.

As detailed below, everything about this post is so far reversed from what is actually the case that one has to wonder whether that was deliberate...

1.) The Highlander, in the form of the non-LosTech HGN-733, was produced throughout the Succession Wars by Hollis Incorporated (in the FWL) under license from StarCorps Industries (also in the FWL) since 2866, with StarCorps beginning limited production runs of their own starting in the mid-3030s. The HGN-733C and HGN-733P were field modifications of the standard HGN-733, with both also making their debut in 2866.

2.) ComStar did maintain a stock of Highlanders (consisting of many HGN-733 and a few HGN-732 models)... and gave them away to the Draconis Combine during the War of 3039, as part of their plan to incentivize blessing the creation of the FRR and keep the Combine from being overrun be the nascent AFFC.

3.) The Wolf's Dragoons never had any contract with Blackwell Industries to produce the Annihilator; their contract was to produce the Marauder II exclusively for the Dragoons from 3012 until the end of the Fourth Succession War (in 3030). The only entities to actually produce the Annihilator were the Strana Mechty Mechworks (on Strana Mechty, the Clans' collective capital world) and the Babylon BattleMech Consortium (ostensibly on the only known planet named Babylon - which also happens to be the homeworld of Clan Golaith Scorpion's namesake) - both of which ceased Annihilator production at some point before 2834 - and the Arc-Royal Mechworks (on the planet Arc Royal, and which doesn't gain access to the design until the Dragoons share it with Clan Wolf-in-Exile during the WoB Jihad).

Edited by Strum Wealh, 11 July 2013 - 08:17 AM.

[lashropa]

I am also a fan. This thread must live on.

[Stonefalcon]

Strum Wealh, on 11 July 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:

As detailed below, everything about this post is so far reversed from what is actually the case that one has to wonder whether that was deliberate...

1.) The Highlander, in the form of the non-LosTech HGN-733, was produced throughout the Succession Wars by Hollis Incorporated (in the FWL) under license from StarCorps Industries (also in the FWL) since 2866, with StarCorps beginning limited production runs of their own starting in the mid-3030s. The HGN-733C and HGN-733P were field modifications of the standard HGN-733, with both also making their debut in 2866.

2.) ComStar did maintain a stock of Highlanders (consisting of many HGN-733 and a few HGN-732 models)... and gave them away to the Draconis Combine during the War of 3039, as part of their plan to incentivize blessing the creation of the FRR and keep the Combine from being overrun be the nascent AFFC.

3.) The Wolf's Dragoons never had any contract with Blackwell Industries to produce the Annihilator; their contract was to produce the Marauder II exclusively for the Dragoons from 3012 until the end of the Fourth Succession War (in 3030). The only entities to actually produce the Annihilator were the Strana Mechty Mechworks (on Strana Mechty, the Clans' collective capital world) and the Babylon BattleMech Consortium (ostensibly on the only known planet named Babylon - which also happens to be the homeworld of Clan Golaith Scorpion's namesake) - both of which ceased Annihilator production at some point before 2834 - and the Arc-Royal Mechworks (on the planet Arc Royal, and which doesn't gain access to the design until the Dragoons share it with Clan Wolf-in-Exile during the WoB Jihad).

My apologies Strum, I was certain I read somewhere the highlander was a very limited model, even still. ANNIHILATOR.

With the changes to heat gen the Annihilator would be a great addition as you can't really boat the big guns now without overheating and 4 IS gauss rifles severely limits armour protection and ammunition which makes it not very viable.