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#1 Wolftrot

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:56 AM

Can't mount a trio of PPCs and Gauss.

Discuss!

#2 Enigmos

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:58 AM

The good craftsman does not blame his tools.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 10:59 AM

why not the VTR-9A

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:00 AM

I posted in the Mech subforum, but basically it looks like PGI is purposely avoiding the ability for assaults to mount dual gauss or dual AC/20 due to PPC's fitting so easily in most any energy hardpoint that isn't CT/Head.

#5 MischiefSC

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:05 AM

2ERPPCs, Gauss and Streaks, with JJs and significantly more speed and maneuverability - possibly even without an XL. That's not shabby.

It's not worth real money for an extra week though. I have a lot of pity for those poor suckers who bought the Dragon Slayer - They can spend another $40 or wait an extra week to get anything but basics unlocked. That's got to sting a bit.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:07 AM

View PostTennex, on 09 July 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

why not the VTR-9A


I am actually perplexed by them not putting it in.

I guess the idea of a Dual Gauss Dual PPC mech actually made them think. Instead of you know, adding another energy slot to the HGN-732.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:16 AM

I was going to argue but it is only the Dragon Slayer that can mount 3 PPCs. OH MY GOD!!!!! PAY-TO-WIN!!!!

NOT.


View PostMischiefSC, on 09 July 2013 - 11:05 AM, said:


2ERPPCs, Gauss and Streaks, with JJs and significantly more speed and maneuverability - possibly even without an XL. That's not shabby.

It's not worth real money for an extra week though. I have a lot of pity for those poor suckers who bought the Dragon Slayer - They can spend another $40 or wait an extra week to get anything but basics unlocked. That's got to sting a bit.


Yeah the build you mention probably isn't half bad and I am wrecking stuff with my DS with only one ER PPC and a Guass so not sure why people get their panties in a twist over the fact it can't boat PPCs.

As far as the Dragon Slayer, like most Hero mechs, you buy it for the C-bill boost, not because it is better than other variants. However ASIDE from a 3 PPC build, you can pretty much mimic the DS with the 9K.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:25 AM

The Victor certainly isnt DoA. We have a guildie that runs the Dragon Slayer and does quite well with it.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:34 AM

View PostSilentWolff, on 09 July 2013 - 11:25 AM, said:

The Victor certainly isnt DoA. We have a guildie that runs the Dragon Slayer and does quite well with it.


Does he run 3 ppc gauss like most your clan? DS is not a standard Victor BTW.

#10 SilentWolff

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:39 AM

2 ER PPC and a gauss I believe. No need to be hatin the players either, hate the game instead. We just use what pgi gives us.

#11 Wolftrot

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostSilentWolff, on 09 July 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

2 ER PPC and a gauss I believe. No need to be hatin the players either, hate the game instead. We just use what pgi gives us.


Not hating, never played against you that I can remember, just watched some twitch 8mans and its all that Ive seen you guys use.

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:47 AM

Parallel ballistic/energy with missile backup and enough JJ power to negate hill code. Definitely not DOA.

Has anyone seen twist/arm/quirks for these yet?

Edited by Bagheera, 09 July 2013 - 11:47 AM.


#13 Ngamok

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:48 AM

View PostOriginalTibs, on 09 July 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

The good craftsman does not blame his tools.


That's what she said.

#14 SilentWolff

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:49 AM

We do mostly use PPC's and gauss. Sprinkle in some large lasers and missles every now and then. Not much we can do atm when the meta dictates what you need to take if you want to win.

#15 Wolftrot

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:52 AM

View PostSilentWolff, on 09 July 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

We do mostly use PPC's and gauss. Sprinkle in some large lasers and missles every now and then. Not much we can do atm when the meta dictates what you need to take if you want to win.


Agreed

#16 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 09 July 2013 - 11:55 AM

View PostWolftrot, on 09 July 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

Discuss!

This sounds like a Game Balance complaint, and not a discussion about the Victor BattleMech. I am going to jettison this thread, as we all know that PPC + Gauss is everywhere and needs balancing.



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