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[DarkDevilDancer]

So i was just reading this:

http://mwomercs.com/...general-update/

Seems the promised changes are on the way and boating is being addressed, so how will you be altering your builds in response?

Will you keep 4 PPC's and just fire them in pairs? or will you say damn the changes and keep those high alphas.

[AntiCitizenJuan]

I've actually realized today firing PPC's one at a time when you have 4 is pretty heat efficient and a good steady output of DPS

[Lugh]

I won't have to adjust any of my builds at all. Muhahahah

[Roland]

Replace 2 PPC's with 2 ERPPC's, since it'll be equally efficient to 4 PPC's, give you better damage at range, and give you up close infighting weapons.

In other words, lolz.

[Otto Cannon]

There's no need for ppc users to change anything- 2ppc + 2erppc or just ignore the small heat 'penalty'.

[Joseph Mallan]

DarkDevilDancer, on 11 July 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

So i was just reading this:

http://mwomercs.com/...general-update/

Seems the promised changes are on the way and boating is being addressed, so how will you be altering your builds in response?

Will you keep 4 PPC's and just fire them in pairs? or will you say damn the changes and keep those high alphas.

As I on't have a PPC boat, an Jager40 should still be manageable I probably won't be switching my Builds.

[Belorion]

Otto Cannon, on 11 July 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

There's no need for ppc users to change anything- 2ppc + 2erppc or just ignore the small heat 'penalty'.

I would assume that (if not now eventually) PPCs and ERPPCs count toward each other, as well as SRM mixes. Forcing them to not over heat may make some PPC boaters better.

Joseph Mallan, on 11 July 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

As I on't have a PPC boat, an Jager40 should still be manageable I probably won't be switching my Builds.

I can't see any reason they would apply the heat penalty to dual AC-20s.

[DarkDevilDancer]

Well they cant start to balance high alpha ppc builds and ignore AC40 builds or you'd see nothing but jager bombs, personally i had no issue with those as they had a limited range and side torso's are easy to blast apart.

And i'd assume perhaps wrongly they'll link er and standard ppc's together at some point as stated above.

[CygnusX7]

I'll continue to run my Gauss 2x ERPPC Firebrand as per usual.

[Belorion]

By the way, there is already a clarification there that the PPC and ER-PPCs are counted as each other.

[Herodes]

No changes necessary here.

[Ngamok]

Roland, on 11 July 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

Replace 2 PPC's with 2 ERPPC's, since it'll be equally efficient to 4 PPC's, give you better damage at range, and give you up close infighting weapons.

In other words, lolz.

ER PPCs and PPCs will count the same after the 30th, muahahahaha

[Gigastrike]

Ah, the joys of not boating. This doesn't effect me in the slightest.

Edited by Gigastrike, 11 July 2013 - 01:36 PM.

[Appogee]

Belorion, on 11 July 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

I can't see any reason they would apply the heat penalty to dual AC-20s.

They are and it makes sense that they do.

AC40 Jagers are in plague proportions.

[Tennex]

do nothing! been running 2xPPC 1xERPPC 1Gauss forever now

[Appogee]

(snip)

Edited by Appogee, 11 July 2013 - 01:54 PM.

[LeShadow]

Interesting. That 3 PPC would incur a penalty... well, no surprise there. I had however counted on LL being given a little more leniency. Guess I'll have to see how bad the heat penalty for 3 PPC is, since it sounds like firing 4 LL would be punished rather severely.

If 3 PPC+Gauss remains manageable, I'll switch to that for my Misery, otherwise I'll stick with my usual (Gauss+4LL+ML) and fire the LL in pairs (like I already do when I'm running hot).
So, yeah, that change might actually make me switch to PPC

The only other 'Mech I own that will incur a penalty is my (rarely used) SRM30+5ML Stalker. Removing even a few SRM from that setup would defeat its purpose, so I'll just split the missiles into 2 firing groups. No harm done, really, it's not like SRM were pinpoint weapons.

All in all, gotta say I'm really looking forward to these changes.

[Bishop Steiner]

DarkDevilDancer, on 11 July 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

So i was just reading this:

http://mwomercs.com/...general-update/

Seems the promised changes are on the way and boating is being addressed, so how will you be altering your builds in response?

Will you keep 4 PPC's and just fire them in pairs? or will you say damn the changes and keep those high alphas.

thing is... heat won't scale if you have 2 ER PPC AND 2 PPC, unless I misread that post.

Appogee, on 11 July 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

They are and it makes sense that they do.

AC40 Jagers are in plague proportions.

Even though I find the fear of GlassCannons somewhat laughable, I must say, I don't mind the penalty, either, even though I often run one.

REAL skill, not the metarape the Twitch crowd considers to be skill, is the ability to adapt and overcome. Most people today cannot handle adversity, though, and sadly, many people on these forums consider a game taking skill to be adversity.

[Sporklift]

He also mentions making any heat above 100% cause damage. Rather than 120%.

[FupDup]

Bishop Steiner, on 11 July 2013 - 02:26 PM, said:

thing is... heat won't scale if you have 2 ER PPC AND 2 PPC, unless I misread that post.

The next patch (16th) will indeed let you bypass the heat using that method, although Garth said that it'll get fixed in a future update (the reason they aren't fixing it now instead of waiting is because reasons).