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[NotEnoughDakkaDakka]

Mmkay. For those of us that don't live under a rock, the Battlemaster is the only non-MC 'Mech that can mount an engine rated 400. Standard is right out, so an XL400 will have this baby moving at 76.2kph or 83.9kph on speed tweak, making it one of the fastest Assault 'Mechs out there. Let's tweak it some.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5f58438144debc6

The Hydra has an extra ton of armor, 21 double heatsinks, an XL400 engine for going fast, and a completely self-sustaining array of 5 medium lasers and a pair of ER Large Lasers for close and long range combat, while an AMS with two tons of ammo allows it to push and keep on pushing against tides of missiles. While it may run hot, the array of Medium Lasers runs at 71% efficiency, while the paired ER Large Lasers will run even cooler, at 77% efficiency on their own.


-Thoughts?-

[OuttaAmmo NoWai]

Toss out a ton of AMS ammo and use it for an extra double heatsink. Mandatory for an all-energy loadout like that.

If you go through an entire ton of AMS ammo you're standing out in the open WAY too much for your own good.

Save tonnage by removing a ton of armor from your legs and get rid of ferro to free up slots. If you still can't fit another sink in this way then just stay with the 2 tons AMS ammo

Edited by OuttaAmmo NoWai, 15 July 2013 - 01:54 PM.

[Hebdomas]

Three questions for you.
1. Why are you using Ferro-Fibrous and not Endo-Steel?
2. Why two tons of AMS ammo? Did you have a ton and a slot left over?
3. Where's the dakka? I see plenty of pewpew, but no dakka.

[NotEnoughDakkaDakka]

OuttaAmmo NoWai, on 15 July 2013 - 01:52 PM, said:

Toss out a ton of AMS ammo and use it for an extra double heatsink. Mandatory for an all-energy loadout like that.

If you go through an entire ton of AMS ammo you're standing out in the open WAY too much for your own good.

Save tonnage by removing a ton of armor from your legs and get rid of ferro to free up slots. If you still can't fit another sink in this way then just stay with the 2 tons AMS ammo

Before I added Ferro and the extra ton of AMS ammo, there was 15 slots and no tons left over. Couldn't fit another sink in, so I just put ferro in and an extra ton of AMS ammo, and beefed up the armor a bit more with remaining tonnage.

Hebdomas, on 15 July 2013 - 01:53 PM, said:

Three questions for you.
1. Why are you using Ferro-Fibrous and not Endo-Steel?
2. Why two tons of AMS ammo? Did you have a ton and a slot left over?
3. Where's the dakka? I see plenty of pewpew, but no dakka.

A1: I like having as close to max tonnage as possible, and I'd have no slots and spare tons left over.
A2: Basically.
A3: It's meant to be a completely self-sustaining build. The two ER Large Lasers function like a Gauss Rifle +3 damage, and with fire discipline (AKA not firing both the ERs and Meds at once repeatedly), it actually runs quite cool. Theoretically, you could take off the AMS and fit in two MGs +1t of ammo, but I like having AMS more.

[Typatty]

I'll be using this. http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f0f6362336c8d7e

[Delchev]

As you were told, using ferro fibrous is ridiculous. Especially because you just don't like spare tons. It is better still to have them if you ever decide to change the build, then you don't have to spend money removing ferro fibrous.

If you do use endo-steel, you can fit ER PPC in instead of ER Large Lasers. They are more effective for ranged combat.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...b75fe1f72361258

According to taste one could fit machine guns instead of AMS in. Or even remove 1 heat sink and some armor and add machine guns to the build for some promised dakka dakka. It actually looks quite nice. I wonder how vulnerable those side torsos will be.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...021962728c8d2c0

[Delchev]

This one would be cool with the current (about to be non-existent) boating meta. 6 Large Lasers running around at 78.6 Kph.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...207f814e84eeb58

[Jyi]

OP: what do you mean Standard 400 is right out? http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a4605d406ae3315

And it even has better sustained dps than your weird Ferro-beast.


Trolololololo

[Sh4dow78]

IMAO this is better setup: BLR-1G only little slower but nice range and punch.

[NotEnoughDakkaDakka]

Jyi, on 16 July 2013 - 07:21 AM, said:

OP: what do you mean Standard 400 is right out? http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a4605d406ae3315

And it even has better sustained dps than your weird Ferro-beast.


Trolololololo

240m max range, 120m effective range. As an Assault 'Mech.

[627]

But but... its the Lore!

[NotEnoughDakkaDakka]

627, on 16 July 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:

But but... its the Lore!

Ahh, the Charger. A kind of funny mech, and I've always made the effort to keep one in my lance in TT just for the giggles.

Fun fact, though; The build is completely untouched by the new heat changes, and would actually run completely heat-neutral in TT. 15 heat from five MLas plus 24 heat is 39 heat, and even with running, you would still only run on 41 heat/turn, with 42 dissapation. For a quick heat test, minus one DHS; Take a HBK-4P, strip off all the armor, and fit in 2 ERLLas (one in each arm), 4 MedLas in the hunch and one in the head. Cram in DHS wherever you can, and fit 20 DHS with a STD 250 engine, and see how many salvos the mediums can fire before overheating, and then how many the ERLLas can fire without overheating. They should come out to about the same (only a 4 heat difference between ERLLas and MLas in their full salvos, and the MLas has a shorter recycle time.)

[mack sabbath]

6.7 sustained DPS, heat changes be damned, and no XL deaths when losing a torso, always weaponry left over.


http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fbb6c419fa3fd30

Or this for an XL and Gauss Rifle.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3fc544320a872a2

Edited by Die Primate Die, 19 July 2013 - 07:13 PM.

[Crashingmail]

Or take this one
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...24b91221d1cfa68

[Queen ChrysaIis]

NotEnoughDakkaDakka, on 15 July 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Mmkay. For those of us that don't live under a rock, the Battlemaster is the only non-MC 'Mech that can mount an engine rated 400. Standard is right out, so an XL400 will have this baby moving at 76.2kph or 83.9kph on speed tweak, making it one of the fastest Assault 'Mechs out there. Let's tweak it some.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...5f58438144debc6

The Hydra has an extra ton of armor, 21 double heatsinks, an XL400 engine for going fast, and a completely self-sustaining array of 5 medium lasers and a pair of ER Large Lasers for close and long range combat, while an AMS with two tons of ammo allows it to push and keep on pushing against tides of missiles. While it may run hot, the array of Medium Lasers runs at 71% efficiency, while the paired ER Large Lasers will run even cooler, at 77% efficiency on their own.


-Thoughts?-

is it me, or it really looks like another one awesome

[NotEnoughDakkaDakka]

MLP Queen Chrysalis, on 26 July 2013 - 11:39 PM, said:

is it me, or it really looks like another one awesome

Better than any Awesome. ^.^

[Queen ChrysaIis]

i hope it really is )

Edited by MLP Queen Chrysalis, 27 July 2013 - 12:30 PM.

[FearTheAmish]

ER adds too much heat for change out... so after playing with it some......

4ML
3LL
full armor
39% heat efficiency

Destroy them with Lasers

Edited by FearTheAmish, 28 July 2013 - 10:04 AM.

[Dazzer]

I like this one

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...677dc69daef36e4

[Thorank]

Why did you fit AMS Ammo ?