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#21 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:09 AM

I'm not going to say models aren't a problem.

There is a major disconnect between the art the department, the modeling department and the way the game actually plays.

But it's not as if the Atlas sucks, there are some situations that you can get in where you are at a disadvantage, part of being a good pilot is learning to avoid them.

#22 MadCat02

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:15 AM

View PostNicholas Carlyle, on 21 July 2013 - 08:09 AM, said:

I'm not going to say models aren't a problem.

There is a major disconnect between the art the department, the modeling department and the way the game actually plays.

But it's not as if the Atlas sucks, there are some situations that you can get in where you are at a disadvantage, part of being a good pilot is learning to avoid them.


i have 2.5 kda on atlases . Your not going to dodge bad sitation on alpine for example . People will put 30 ppcs in you before you can get anywhere . its not like they can't see you slowly crawling toward them .

Edited by MadCat02, 21 July 2013 - 08:16 AM.


#23 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:16 AM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:


i have 2.5 kda on atlases . Your not going to dodge bad sitation on alpine for example . People will put 30 ppcs in you before you can get anywhere . its not like they can't see you slowly crawling toward them .


So is all of this just based on Alpine? If so, suck it up and wait for map voting when it comes out with UI2.0. I don't forsee anyone voting for Alpine.

#24 Adridos

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:18 AM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:

i have 2.5 kda on atlases.


...Hey guys, check how bad Atlas is!

I have 3 of them and they are all in the 2.5 KD territory... the mech is soooo bad.

*FACEPALM*

#25 PanzerMagier

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:31 AM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:


I unlocked master on atlas . I am as good on atlas as you can get

I doubt that because.
A.) your name has madcat in it.
B.) you're a kuritan
c.) from what you're saying, you don't know how to play an atlas.
You might have unlocked master for playing one a lot but you haven't actually mastered how to play an atlas.
The only reason why my (and prob your) atlas struggles with lights is because HSR or the netcode sucks. Is all.

/thread

Edited by PanzerMagier, 21 July 2013 - 08:31 AM.


#26 Coralld

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 08:57 AM

Really Mr. OP? I pilot a Victor and I still hate going up against Atlases more so then any other Assault, even more so then the Highlander.

#27 KharnZor

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 09:06 AM

View PostUnbound Inferno, on 21 July 2013 - 08:09 AM, said:

Tap Escape key.
Options.
Search for a box on the lower-left that says "Arm Lock"
Click that.

This.
2.5kdr you say OP? with what you are saying i seriously doubt it. You sound just like any other scrub atlas pilot that charges out into the middle of the entire enemy team alone thinking you can kill everyone ever.

Edited by KharnZor, 21 July 2013 - 09:06 AM.


#28 AntiCitizenJuan

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 09:10 AM

Stalkers broke the game.

#29 Odins Fist

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 10:42 AM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:


I unlocked master on atlas . I am as good on atlas as you can get



I will take that bet/challenge... :angry:

#30 Rippthrough

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:06 AM

ATLAS K BABY!

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:09 AM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:


I unlocked master on atlas . I am as good on atlas as you can get

Atlas can't aim large laser that well . You either on a elavated gorund or you are too slow to turn .

No most 85th don't run XLS . I have ferro armor on PPC poker and 300 engine on brawler stalker


Unlocking Master means nothing and being as good as YOU can be piloting an Atlas, doesn't mean your actually good at piloting an Atlas. I have played several mechs, Backjack for example, that I totally suck at piloting where as others, like the Quickdraw, I consider myself among the top players in the game with.

Altas is fine. I am running the following stats with the trial Atlas RS(C) that is currently in game, no efficiencies.

Matches: 39
Wins: 25
Losses: 14
W/L: 1.79
Kills: 46
Deaths: 16
K/D: 2.56
Avg Dmg: 356

Again this is the Trial AS7-RS(C) and which I can't modify, can't add modules and can't unlock any efficiencies on, even basic.

If your having a problem with the Atlas, its you, not the mech.

#32 Kodiak Jorgensson

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:10 AM

my none competitive atlas builds disagree.

#33 christophermx4

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:12 AM

My Atlas eats other Assaults for breakfast. I have no problem gutting a Heavy Metal or Victor one on one - especially if they let me get close.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:13 AM

uhm... i played with my lil atlas now for some days, and always had a hard time. Most times my front or side armor is gone in seconds from a few hits, but more often i die by LRM rains, in 5 seconds. Maybe i am play atlas the wrong way, but i agree, it's slow movement is his greatest weakness. And without some wingmen to cover against light mechs, death is sure at hand. :angry:

Edited by Morrigun, 21 July 2013 - 11:14 AM.


#35 M0rpHeu5

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:15 AM

Atlas biggest disatvantage is that it's getting focused on 1st and combined with it's slowness he dies. In one on one he is not weak at all.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:17 AM

You serious?

#37 Vincian

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:18 AM

Are you the guy, who pilots the atlas with 7tons of AMS ammo?

Even when not, most of the things you say, show most readers, that you didnt think a lot about the things you wrote or will write.

View PostMadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:

Viktor,Stalker and Highlander can cripple Atlas before he can even get in range .

Infact any of those mechs are just as strong in 1 vs 1 situation .




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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:31 AM

View PostMorrigun, on 21 July 2013 - 11:13 AM, said:

uhm... i played with my lil atlas now for some days, and always had a hard time. Most times my front or side armor is gone in seconds from a few hits, but more often i die by LRM rains, in 5 seconds. Maybe i am play atlas the wrong way, but i agree, it's slow movement is his greatest weakness. And without some wingmen to cover against light mechs, death is sure at hand. :angry:

ams, ecm and not charging in will help you here

#39 Nicholas Carlyle

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:40 AM

View Postsoarra, on 21 July 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

ams, ecm and not charging in will help you here


AMS, ECM, proper use of cover, moving perpendicularly to the incoming missiles. All very helpful.

If you get caught in the open, that's really your fault, and it doesn't matter if it was LRM's PPC's, etc. you would get destroyed quickly due to pin point accurate instant convergence.

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Posted 21 July 2013 - 11:41 AM

View PostMadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:


I unlocked master on atlas . I am as good on atlas as you can get


lol
no





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