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[HAV0C]

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I personally really like it! It's obviously in a state of being completed, but I especially love the right arm & AC 5 implementation from the old art transferred to the MWO style.

Solid work, as usual. That said, what does everyone think of the WIP here so far?

(original source: http://www.nogutsnog...opic,649.0.html
and http://www.cbc.ca/pl.../ID/2398278247/ )

<S> See your rowdy lot dirtside.

-Colonel Andrew "Havoc" Davis
Death's Hand Brigade Mercenaries

P.S. The piece on Sarah was especially nice I felt, It's around the 18:30 mark on the second link.

[Tennex]

its probably one of many wolverine concepts for example here are a few for the catapult



in the end the catapult didn't look like any of these initial concepts but a mix of a couple of em

Edited by Tennex, 26 July 2013 - 02:05 AM.

[Booran]

I just hope it will feel a bit more unique than victor/quickdraw/highlander, which are all very similar at a glance (boxy, symmetrical, "flat" geometry). Other than those three all mechs so far has been looking fantastic.

[HAV0C]

Tennex, on 26 July 2013 - 02:03 AM, said:

its probably one of many wolverine concepts for example here are a few for the catapult

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in the end the catapult didn't look like any of these initial concepts but a mix of a couple of em

<S>

I agree, and hope to see more concepts of it in the future. I think the Wolverine is one of my favorite Medium 'Mechs out there. I have to say the Shadow Hawk is probably my favorite though.

It lends itself to an interesting discussion on what may be the same, and what may be different about the yet-to-be-fully-realized Wolverine Battlemech artwork. Great point though to be sure!

<S> Keep the discussion going!

-Colonel Andrew "Havoc" Davis
Death's Hand Brigade Mercenaries

[Adridos]

Booran, on 26 July 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

I just hope it will feel a bit more unique than victor/quickdraw/highlander, which are all very similar at a glance (boxy, symmetrical, "flat" geometry). Other than those three all mechs so far has been looking fantastic.

Flat geometry is here to stay, not only is it FD's style, but it also helps withthe ammount of details a mech can bring with it (since round shapes take much more polygons to create and they have to keep them in some specific metric not to break the FPS whenever the mech appears on screen... altough things like Victors head are already round). On the other hand, with the shoulderpads, actually hand held weapon/s and such, it shouldn't come off like the generic brick on legs that Highlander, and to lesser extent Quickdraw, are.

Edited by Adridos, 26 July 2013 - 02:56 AM.

[HAV0C]

Booran, on 26 July 2013 - 02:45 AM, said:

I just hope it will feel a bit more unique than victor/quickdraw/highlander, which are all very similar at a glance (boxy, symmetrical, "flat" geometry). Other than those three all mechs so far has been looking fantastic.

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See, I have to disagree here. The Highlander being my all time favorite 'mech since ye-ole-tabletop days not withstanding, I see them all as having vastly unique silhouettes in game and can tell the difference immediately even from distance.

The Highlander especially was knocked out of the park in terms of translating it from old BT artwork to MWO while still 'looking like' a Highlander in my view.

I am not saying your opinion is wrong, I just respectfully disagree with your opinion, sir. I like the similar style of 'mechs armor placement. It makes sense from my (all-be it limited) knowledge of how real world armor plating on vehicles works. Those 'rules' hold true no matter what you're trying to armor, so it makes sense that there would be similarities on major facings of armor.

Just my thoughts on that.

<S>

-Colonel Andrew "Havoc" Davis
Death;s Hand Brigade Mercenaries

[Booran]

Adridos, on 26 July 2013 - 02:56 AM, said:

Flat geometry is here to stay, not only is it FD's style, but it also helps withthe ammount of details a mech can bring with it (since round shapes take much more polygons to create and they have to keep them in some specific metric not to break the FPS whenever the mech appears on screen... altough things like Victors head are already round). On the other hand, with the shoulderpads, actually hand held weapon/s and such, it shouldn't come off like the generic brick on legs that Highlander, and to lesser extent Quickdraw, are.

Yeah, that's what I mean, I just couldn't find the word for it. They are too generic. I'm not saying they are not looking nice, but they don't stand out as much as a Blackjack, Catapult, Hunchback or Raven etc...

[Alistair Winter]

HAV0C, on 26 July 2013 - 01:19 AM, said:

Solid work, as usual. That said, what does everyone think of the WIP here so far?

[HAV0C]

Alistair Winter, on 26 July 2013 - 04:04 AM, said:

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-Colonel Andrew "Havoc" Davis
Death's Hand Brigade Mercenaries

Edit: Found a way, WAY better response.

Edited by HAV0C, 26 July 2013 - 04:29 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Until I see the other 6-12 concept pieces and variants, not sure how much is really to be discussed. Just glad to see it is likely gonna make the cut.


I do love the AC5 re-interpretation though.

[HAV0C]

<S> Bishop,

I'd say comparrison to what we see in this concept and what may likely be carried over from both the original unseen artwork, and the reseen artwork for starters.

I for one expect to see some minor alterations to the center torso, perhaps have the cockpit further widened a bit perhaps to differentiate it from the Shadowhawk's head. We'll see obviously. I just thought I'd offer a place to discuss the artwork, observations on what parts he's pulled from where on what we can see of the concept.

Figure it's better than some of the other discussions going on, at any rate.

<S> Thanks for the reply, good to see ya by the way Bishop. Be good man.

-Colonel Andrew "Havoc" Davis
Death's Hand Brigade Mercenaries

[AgroAlba]

Looks sweeeeeet. Even if it is just one of 12 throwaway concept sketches on the road to the 1 final sketch... it's very very nice. I immediately noticed the shoulder armor and said "Waaaait a minute..... I smell wolverine."

Alex, you do amazing work.

[Le Goat]

You guys are missing the forest for the trees.

we now have a chance to get a re-worked marauder! and phoenix hawk and...and....

[Strum Wealh]

Le Goat, on 26 July 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:

You guys are missing the forest for the trees.

we now have a chance to get a re-worked marauder! and phoenix hawk and...and....

The Wolverine is from Fang of the Sun Dougram (the same source as the Shadow Hawk, Thunderbolt, and, BattleMaster); it does not necessarily indicate that we will get the Macross-based unseen (Marauder, Warhammer, etc) in the foreseeable future.

[orcrist86]

The design element that bugs me is the v shaped torso. It reminds me too much of the phoenix hawk. In my mind a re-imagining would make it feel like an atlas made love to a hunchback, and what you got was a mean and stocky booger with a chip on his shoulder.

Edited by orcrist86, 26 July 2013 - 10:41 AM.

[Belorion]

Alex said in the other thread he has redone it 4 times already... so whatever it is its different.

[FupDup]

Here's the newest concept for it:

Alex Iglesias, on 26 July 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

here's an update

Updated again:

Alex Iglesias, on 26 July 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

by popular demand, lunchbox

Edited by FupDup, 26 July 2013 - 12:29 PM.

[Elistaire Drummond]

I really like it so far. A good blend of the old artworks, Phoenix-Readout-artwork and the actual MWO style. Great!