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[Team Leader]

Agent 0 Fortune, on 30 July 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

That is an awful lot of complaining for something that didn't affect you.

Maybe you can complain about the price of tea in china tomorrow.

this is a joke, right?
the POINT is that it didnt effect us. anyone. the players. except total freakin NOOBS.

Stoicblitzer, on 30 July 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

nerfing seismic helped a little. removing it would have helped more.

forgot that whoops and i agree

[KuruptU4Fun]

stjobe, on 30 July 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

You KNOW how that'll turn out: 5 damage + 5 splash damage to all surrounding locations, making the PPC do 15-35 damage per shot.

But that's like getting peed on, the person doing it is never going to get it all in one place....

[WolvesX]

Stoicblitzer, on 30 July 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

nerfing seismic helped a little. removing it would have helped more.

Very true!

[Khobai]

Nerfing seismic was pointless. What they shouldve done was left it alone and just made it a medium mech only module. Thats what they should do with most of the modules... make them weight class specific to strengthen the roles of each weight class.

[Agent 0 Fortune]

Team Leader, on 30 July 2013 - 03:35 PM, said:

this is a joke, right?
the POINT is that it didnt effect us. anyone. the players. except total freakin NOOBS.

I guess I did miss the point. And I agree that more should have been done this patch.

[KuruptU4Fun]

Damocles69, on 30 July 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

can we just drag this abortion of a game out behind a woodshed and put it out of its misery yet? this is getting embarrassing

If you don't like it, don't see hope for it, and have basically given up on it. Why are you posting?

[Team Leader]

Damocles69, on 30 July 2013 - 03:41 PM, said:

can we just drag this failed abortion of a game out

fixed

[OneEyed Jack]

Agent 0 Fortune, on 30 July 2013 - 03:31 PM, said:

That is an awful lot of complaining for something that didn't affect you.

Maybe you can complain about the price of tea in china tomorrow.

Because no one should ever encourage balance, fun or systems that are intuitive and/or make sense. They should just cry for buffs on the stuff they're using and nerfs on anything they're not. God forbid anyone not be a selfish little pr*ck.

[Murzao]

Personally all I see here are a buncha moron trolls who like to complain about things but have no idea how to fix things. Just like Abrahams 6 months ago posting every day that 'based on his math', PPC heat should be reduced to 6 to make them useful weapons because of the heat dissipation system equivalency. Like seriously, his idea was to reduce PPC heat to 6. You guys have equally brilliant ideas......just saying. I'm pretty sure PGI will ignore you guys (and they better)....if they want to be employed 6 months from now.

[Stoicblitzer]

KuruptU4Fun, on 30 July 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

If you don't like it, don't see hope for it, and have basically given up on it. Why are you posting?

[James The Fox Dixon]

Mmmm I'm really enjoying the One Click Wonder's tears.... mmmm..... mmmmooorrreeee......

[KuruptU4Fun]

Yeah Stoic, Blizzards' WoW went down to 7.7 subscribers from 8.3 three months before? So wouldn't you say they're screwing up a bit more than PGI is, at least by the opinion of their subscriber base...

F2P games expect that player bases will come and go at a higher rate, at least that's far more realistic than the hill that Blizzard stands upon believing they are the end all be all of MMO's.

Edited by KuruptU4Fun, 30 July 2013 - 04:07 PM.

[Jack Lowe]

Ok, so it's useless and thoughtless because it totally affects nothing. Right on, if this is the case why are you so upset. If the builds you mention are the ones u like to run what is your problem precisely? That's an awful lot of hate for something that has done nothing to you.

[Stoicblitzer]

James The Fox Dixon, on 30 July 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Mmmm I'm really enjoying the One Click Wonder's tears.... mmmm..... mmmmooorrreeee......

we want nerfs to the builds we use....

Jack Lowe, on 30 July 2013 - 04:06 PM, said:

Ok, so it's useless and thoughtless because it totally affects nothing. Right on, if this is the case why are you so upset. If the builds you mention are the ones u like to run what is your problem precisely? That's an awful lot of hate for something that has done nothing to you.

because we want BALANCE and a fun game for ALL. we are not evil.

[Roland]

James The Fox Dixon, on 30 July 2013 - 04:00 PM, said:

Mmmm I'm really enjoying the One Click Wonder's tears.... mmmm..... mmmmooorrreeee......

You understand that most of the folks laughing about the ghost heat aren't crying about not being able to put together huge alpha strikes, right?

Because you can still do that, and the ghost heat doesn't really stop effective builds?

The reason folks are complaining isn't because the ghost heat changed something to much. They are complaining because it didn't change anything at all. It failed to address the real issues.

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far more realistic than the hill that Blizzard stands upon believing they are the end all be all of MMO's.

Blizzard can't hear you, because their hill is a mountain.
And their mountain is made of money.

[Royalewithcheese]

Murzao, on 30 July 2013 - 03:53 PM, said:

Personally all I see here are a buncha moron trolls who like to complain about things but have no idea how to fix things.

Top three suggestions that I've heard in the last few days that are solidly better than PGI's idea:

• Turn PPCs into beam weapons.
  
• Make PPCs shoot slower. Sometimes paired with an increase in Gauss speed to de-couple the alpha.
  
• Double armor, giving sustained damage builds (i.e., DPS and brawlers) an advantage over high-heat alpha builds (i.e., PPC users.)

A nice bonus to these ideas is that they don't randomly nerf laser hunchbacks and lurmboats and actually affect more than one kind of non-terrible PPC build.


Ceterum censeo heat scale esse delendam.

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 30 July 2013 - 04:10 PM.

[Corvus Antaka]

as if PPC/Gauss wont be addressed.

LOL

[Mack1]

All the people cheering the heat nerf are narrow minded, they fail to see what is actually happening to this once brilliant game. Our choices of Mech setup are being eroded away and pretty soon everyone will be packing exactly the same gear in their Mech. I already saw it after the first stage of the patch and now it will be even worse.

I am very confident that this heat/boating vendetta will be a huge turning point in MWO, in a year's time if the game fails and at this stage I think it's heading that way, people will look back at the heat/boating patch and say this is what ruined the game.

I noticed a random comment on one of my old MWO videos last week, it was "wow... can't believe how much better closed beta looked over the current version" That's pretty much how bad it's become.

[KuruptU4Fun]

Roland I can't wait to see what happens to Blizzard when Lord British releases Shroud of the Avatar and Chris Roberts does the same for Star Citizen. Being that they've been around the block a few years before Blizzard even existed.

[Orzorn]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 30 July 2013 - 04:10 PM, said:

as if PPC/Gauss wont be addressed.

LOL

And then we move to Dual PPC + Some other decent ballistic.

As for RoyaleWithCheese, this problem won't be addressed until PGI reduces the heat cap so that higher PPC heat (which they are implementing) actually means something.

As long as you can do higher heat weapons with low heat weapons (PPC/Gauss, for example), PPC's will be strong. But if PPC's ALONE put you to nearly overheating (at 10 heat a pop and a 30 heat cap), no combination of 2 PPC + anything will stop them from being the hot weapons they are.