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[PropagandaWar]

Man OP your on Crack. Played the map several times yesterday. Heat seemed more manageble than caustic for some reason.You So many points to attack from. The one brawl we had near center was a brutal blast. One thing I wish they did was damage legs in the rivers of lava as well.

[MeiSooHaityu]

oldradagast, on 31 July 2013 - 08:20 AM, said:

I don't want brief contact with lava to cause damage, but what I find strange is that I can literally walk around in that lava pool in the center of the map (under the circular catwalk) without taking damage. Now, it does slowly make my heat go up, and maybe at some point I'd overheat or take damage from the lava, but the effect of huge lava pools is currently underwhelming, IMHO.

Agreed there. That pool in the center should roast you till you explode if you spend more than a few seconds in it. I assumed people wanted the small lava streams to cause heat damage and well...those things are EVERYWHERE.

[Tom Sawyer]

I have been having a blast on this map.

But I agree with others. If you step into the main cauldera you should RAPIDLY heat up and eventually explode. Not even a Mech should be able to bathe in lava.

[Ingvay]

The map itself is fine...the lava damage and heat damage from said lava is a joke. This map should be able to kill you and your mech. It's molten lava for godsake!

[KharnZor]

I guess the only issue i have with this map really is the lava. It should be way hotter when you are standing in it and maybe nerf your movement for a period of time.
Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf4wKY8PJtg

At 2:25 they begin to shovel the lava and it sticks to the shovel, Imagine what it would do to the feet/legs of a mech.

Edited by KharnZor, 31 July 2013 - 03:52 PM.

[redbearin]

I posted in this earlier today but after playing on it more I have to say I HATE THIS MAP!!!!!!!!!!! the reason I started playing this game was there was no runing and guning but now with this map its like COD with mechs pick a lane run forward and shoot no stratagie no talking unless people are conplaining about the map, and whats up with being guys being able to get away from me by being able to jump down into a pool of lova that doesnt hurt them or even slow them im really disepointed with this map and 5 out of the seven games iv played have been this dumb map it pops up way too much!!!!! I could rant for along time about this really.

Please take it out of the game untill the bugs are fixed or its in a diferant rotasion or i can filter it out.

Edited by redbearin, 31 July 2013 - 04:08 PM.

[Simbacca]

For base capture, it is a bad map. For resource cap - it is medicore. I have no issues with the heat - it is the time it takes to get into action. The map is such that both teams may never even engage each other in base cap.

[Lucian Nostra]

My problem with this map is partially due to the size. People need to stop running medium and heavy mechs that only do 40-50 kph and put decent sized engines in their mechs

[Kiiyor]

I agree about the map being awesome. As far as the aesthetic goes, I think it's one of the most atmospheric and beautiful yet. It seems purpose built for lighter, faster mechs too, as the topography tends to funnel larger mechs all over the place.

The technical design is lacking in some areas though, especially where hitboxes are concerned. A lot of the choke points leading to theta have horrible, horrible invisible walls extending an awesome width or so from the rendered geography. I've submitted bug and location reports, and everyone else should too. That needs to be fixed with a technical pass, and soon.

Strategically, It's awesome. Though theta has very little cover inside, if you land a large enough force in there, you can hold it easily, as the external approaches leading to it are amazing choke points. Most of them will only allow one mech to stack around corners leading to it, meaning you can't really peek-a-boo with the entrenched enemy either.

It is very, very easy to get separated and blunder about if you are in a pug with poor communication though. Stick with the group! Even if you get lost, you then get lost together.

Also, only the flowing lava seems to have any effect on you, so treat the solid glowing stuff as roads, and the map suddenly becomes far more open. I've seen countless numbers of players inexplicably avoiding anything that looks hot, then complaining about the lack of movement options.

[Abaddonis]

Pretty map, but that's it. Too damn big. Base being captured? **** it, gg. I'm not even going to bother running back. Just like Alpine. Or sit at your base for 10 mins waiting for the other team to get there. Bad design but very pretty.

[Byzan]

this map looks great by it plays like rubbish. it's too big and also shows the flaws in the whole capping mode. Just got this map 4 times in a row and each game was just silly in a different way.

maps should not be this "round" they should be more linear and not be so easy for two sides to just drift past each other and just do circles around the map with no action for heck as long as 10+ minutes.

last game both teams decided to base camp apart from a few scouts and nothing happened for 10min and eventually the timer ran out. first time ever I've had that.

this map is bad, both the game modes are bad. need work. That large snow & mountain map is bad enough, this is worse.

I want to point out again that I think it looks great.

[Redbeard the Elder]

I just want to play this map 12v12 lights and mediums only. That would be a blast!

On my last run there my Raven tore up an Atlas with hardly a scratch. That place is a sniper's paradise.

[Niten Doraku]

Crap map.

Looks great. Nice feel. Boring gameplay every single time. You either walk to the other base and cap, or cap a few points and then try and stumble into a few of the other team's mechs. If you actually have a team that stays together, it's almost assured that you are not going to come into contact with the other team.

And with resource capping, this map is the light mech wunderland. Run, cap. See big baddy, run around corner. Cap somewhere else.

Dull, dull, dull.

[Guizan Dixie]

I had some issues with invisible walls in one match preventing me to move into the center and later on in the same match I struck other invisible obstacles stopping my movemenr. Anyone else having issues when you got stuck with no visible obstacles?

Edited by Guizan Dixie, 31 July 2013 - 10:19 PM.

[Sephlock]

It seems like it has potential for fun games, and some potential pitfalls- including the LITERAL pitfalls that some of us have found . I, for one, am not looking forward to playing "Find the Raven" on that map for 10+ minutes.

[Samurai Pumpkin]

I hate this map sooooo much.

It's so big, it usually ends with someone capping the other base when most of your forces have past the halfway point.

Since folks tend to do better in heavy mechs these days, faster mechs are in short supply.

[Sephlock]

Ingvay, on 31 July 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

The map itself is fine...the lava damage and heat damage from said lava is a joke. This map should be able to kill you and your mech. It's molten lava for godsake!

To make lava sculptures you have to be a bit prepared. You will want to make sure you are wearing long denim jeans and probably a long sleeved non-flamable shirt. You will want non-flamable gloves and we HIGHLY recommend these gloves which are spun glass and kevlar and can withstand 2000°F lava for 20 seconds of direct contact.

The best way to make sculptures is to go to the local Longs Drug Store and purchase inexpensive kitchen whisks. Bring two or three along with you to the flow. To make a Kitchen Whisk Sculpture... find a fairly fluid flow where you can approach the flow without getting too hot. Grip the whisk by the handle and dip the whisking end into the lava and quickly turn the handle to accumulate a glob of lava on the bottom of the whisk. Stand away from the flow and firmly push the red-hot glob of lava and whisk onto the cold ground to form a flat base (allowing the whisk to stand upright on it's own). Wait about 5 or so minutes and then take the same whisk and repeat the process adding a second coat of lava (we call this double-dipping). Allow the whisk to completely cool (about 20 to 30 minutes) before trying to touch or carry it out.

If you do this within park boundries you may not want to take them out of the park due to the federal laws (not like the volcano will miss the lava). If this is the case, after you have had your fun simply smash the rock whisk against the cold lava and the rock will break away from the whisk and you can now take the whisk out without fear of the rangers wrath.

Other things can be dipped into lava, just about anything, including making a lava patty and pressing silver dollars into it, etc. You are limited only by your imagination.

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Lifting Lava...


This technique REQUIRES you to have these special gloves. Do NOT attempt this without the gloves we indicate. This is NOT trivial and can be very dangerous.

You can actually hold liquid lava in your gloved hand with the right gloves. Using the spun glass and kevlar gloves grip the edge of an active lava flow firmly with your hand and lift up. You will, with difficulty, be able to lift the flow from the ground. This is an amazing thing to do and it is quite a surprise to see the the rock under the flow is solid, cold lava rock. The liquid rock, even though it is 2000°F, has not had enough time in direct contact with the cold rock to bond or melt the cold rock. If you see liquid lava pouring out of a hole (called a firehose) you can even cup your hand in the flow and let the lava pour through your gloved fingers.
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Huh.

lava, magma (molten rock) emerging as a liquid onto the Earth’s surface. The term lava is also used for the solidified rock formed by the cooling of a molten lava flow. The temperatures of molten lava range from about 700 to 1,200 °C (1,300 to 2,200 °F). The material can be very fluid, flowing almost like syrup, or it can be extremely stiff, scarcely flowing at all. The higher the lava’s silica content, the higher its viscosity.

Melting points of various metals, in F and C
Iron, Wrought_______________1482 - 1593______2700 - 2900
Iron, Gray Cast______________1127 - 1204______2060 - 2200
Iron, Ductile_________________1149___________2100
Steel, Carbon________________1425 - 1540_____2600 - 2800
Steel, Stainless_______________1510__________2750
Titanium____________________1670__________3040
Tungsten____________________3400__________6150

Standard BattleMech armor is composed of several layers providing various degrees of protection and support. The first layer is extremely strong steel, the result of crystal alignment and radiation treatment, which is also very brittle. The second layer is a ceramic, cubic boron nitride, which combined with a web of artificial diamond fibers acts as a backstop to the steel layer. These two layers rest atop a titanium alloy honeycomb structure which provides support, and a layer of self-sealing polymer sealant which allows for space and underwater operations.

Because of its hardness, chemical inertness, high melting temperature (2973oC) cubic boron nitride is used as an abrasive and wear-resistant coating.

6.Carbon has the highest melting/sublimation point of the elements. The melting point of diamond is ~3550°C, with the sublimation point of carbon around 3800°C.



I want a lava cookie.

[Takony]

Terra Therma is total crap.

Is it hot? Yes. More shutdown mechs to kill, fine for me.

Does it look nice? Yes. But too dark, not just the ususal foggy grey-green-brown soup like all the other maps except Canyon and Alipne, but this time it's black, so you don't see ****. My eyes are bleeding. And I thought the hailstorm in FC is bad.

Does it play good? Hell no. Invariably someone decides f**k this s**t, I'm gonna cap it and be outta here in 2 minutes flat, gg. And you know what? While I think Assault mode should be team deathmatch, in this instance, I perfectly agree with them. I don't even care which side wins by cap, just end the map as fast as possible.

This map is just wasting players time.

[TB Freelancer]

If everyone was playing on a level playing field. I'd love the map.....

....BUT until PGI actually does something about users who abuse custom CFGs/SweetFX, there will always be a low life element gaining a very significant sight advantage over honest players.

Until PGI does something, I'll never much care for any of the maps that seriously hamper vision be it dark, foggy, etc. Not when there are so many scumbags out there who can simply turn it off, turn up the lights, change draw distances, etc.

[Shiro Matsumoto]

Do you hear that sizzling? its Boater tears falling in Lava.

Actually it could be hotter, especially the smaller lava streams. Standing in the waist-high lava, like under the center platform does damage... though the smaller streams dont.

Amazing map if you have a Light or Medium, bravo!

Edited by John McFianna, 01 August 2013 - 02:43 AM.