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[Chemie]

Why would 18 missiles from 3xSRM6 be the same as 8 missiles from 4xSRM2?

Same for LRM. It should not be the launcher but total missiles.

Dumb PGI at it again.

Normal math: Set maximum missiles for heat penalty then apply the penalty when you fire more than that max.

PGI math = fail

[mania3c]

I am not sure I understand..but SRM2 are not linked to any heat penalty group yet..

however, i think applying heat penalty based on total missiles launched is better solution than some arbitrary launcher count..

Edited by mania3c, 30 July 2013 - 04:50 PM.

[Chemie]

table says SRM2 max is 4
SRM4 max is 4
SRM6 max is 3

Edited by Chemie, 30 July 2013 - 05:00 PM.

[Royalewithcheese]

Chemie, on 30 July 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

8 missiles from 4xSRM2?

Don't you know how much damage that is? It's more than three whole medium lasers, and worse, it's spread over multiple components! This SRM8/LBX20 Jagermech cheese needs to be reined in.

[Psikez]

Royalewithcheese, on 30 July 2013 - 05:01 PM, said:

Don't you know how much damage that is? It's more than three whole medium lasers, and worse, it's spread over multiple components! This SRM8/LBX20 Jagermech cheese needs to be reined in.

Holy **** why did I sell my jaegers, the trolling is genius...

[El Bandito]

This patch was one of the most disappointing patch, balance wise.

Big things in July...right...

Can't ******* wait until September 3rd comes.

[Skyfaller]

Chemie, on 30 July 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Why would 18 missiles from 3xSRM6 be the same as 8 missiles from 4xSRM2?

Same for LRM. It should not be the launcher but total missiles.

Dumb PGI at it again.

Normal math: Set maximum missiles for heat penalty then apply the penalty when you fire more than that max.

PGI math = fail

Not only that but this penalty shows these devs don't even play this game. AT ALL.

Linking the missiles to an alpha max is absolute idiocy. Particularly for LRMs.

These weapons (LRM) have a 10+ second warning to the target, they TAKE 10 seconds to reach target, they can be shot down by AMS AND they require the player to purchase upgrades and modules to make its full LRM load as effective as a single PPC.

...and they put a gdamn heat penalty limit on it?

Just... fail. Bad, bad fail.

[FupDup]

Skyfaller, on 30 July 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Not only that but this penalty shows these devs don't even play this game. AT ALL.

Speaking of which, I literally saw Thomas D (whatever his last name is) in game today. He was driving a Yen-Lo-Wang. Equipped with a Gauss Rifle. And nothing else.

Edited by FupDup, 30 July 2013 - 07:04 PM.

[Psikez]

FupDup, on 30 July 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

Speaking of which, I literally saw Thomas D (whatever his last name is) in game today. He was driving a Yen-Lo-Wang. Equipped with a Gauss Rifle. And nothing else.

Might've been a mistake there on his loadout, hes usually in a wang when I see him and I've seen him run a few different kinds (2x UAC5, gauss etc) maybe meant to swap the lasers and forgot

[New Day]

FupDup, on 30 July 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

Speaking of which, I literally saw Thomas D (whatever his last name is) in game today. He was driving a Yen-Lo-Wang. Equipped with a Gauss Rifle. And nothing else.

I saw him in a 3LL catapult.

Edited by NamesAreStupid, 30 July 2013 - 07:50 PM.

[FupDup]

NamesAreStupid, on 30 July 2013 - 07:48 PM, said:

I saw him in a 3LL 2SRM6 catapult.

Even after the heat penalty? That's just pure lulz right there.

[New Day]

FupDup, on 30 July 2013 - 07:49 PM, said:

Even after the heat penalty? That's just pure lulz right there.

Yeah I called him out on it. Can't remember what he said though.

[Deathlike]

NamesAreStupid, on 30 July 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Yeah I called him out on it. Can't remember what he said though.

Printscreen is your friend.

Just wait until they do the 8-mans... they'll confirm what some of us already know.. that building mechs is not their forte - see Heavy mech design challenge from months ago. Speaking of which.. they have yet to put a new one up... as one AtD explained that this is supposed to be done seasonally or every 3-4 months. We're way past that day...

[Corvus Antaka]

oh look someone let the trolls out tonight.

[Johnny Reb]

Skyfaller, on 30 July 2013 - 06:56 PM, said:

Not only that but this penalty shows these devs don't even play this game. AT ALL.

Linking the missiles to an alpha max is absolute idiocy. Particularly for LRMs.

These weapons (LRM) have a 10+ second warning to the target, they TAKE 10 seconds to reach target, they can be shot down by AMS AND they require the player to purchase upgrades and modules to make its full LRM load as effective as a single PPC.

...and they put a gdamn heat penalty limit on it?

Just... fail. Bad, bad fail.

But I thought lrms were OP, derp!

[Ralgas]

All weapons need to be linked, max linked set by damage and lowest limit used for where the penalty starts.

[Amsro]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 30 July 2013 - 10:50 PM, said:

oh look someone let the trolls out tonight.

Only trolling going on here is PGI's balancing attempts.

[Karenai]

FupDup, on 30 July 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

Speaking of which, I literally saw Thomas D (whatever his last name is) in game today. He was driving a Yen-Lo-Wang. Equipped with a Gauss Rifle. And nothing else.

Thomas Dziegielewski always runs a gauss wang. But you have to drop with a low elo mech to meet him.

[New Day]

Deathlike, on 30 July 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

Printscreen is your friend.

Just wait until they do the 8-mans... they'll confirm what some of us already know.. that building mechs is not their forte - see Heavy mech design challenge from months ago. Speaking of which.. they have yet to put a new one up... as one AtD explained that this is supposed to be done seasonally or every 3-4 months. We're way past that day...

I'll remember that.

They have problem with finishing things. Start buffing MGs, give up. Start buffing LBX, give up. Start buffing flamers, give up. Start buffing pulse lasers, nerf them into the ground, give up for 2 months. Nerf streaks into the ground...?

I was wondering about that too. Smashing pugs gets boring very fast especially when they are in their coffins trial mechs. At least the champion mechs give them a fighting chance. IMO all the trials should be champions.

Edited by NamesAreStupid, 31 July 2013 - 06:30 PM.

[GODzillaGSPB]

Chemie, on 30 July 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Why would 18 missiles from 3xSRM6 be the same as 8 missiles from 4xSRM2?

Same for LRM. It should not be the launcher but total missiles.

Dumb PGI at it again.

Normal math: Set maximum missiles for heat penalty then apply the penalty when you fire more than that max.

PGI math = fail

Makes sense. But maybe the idea behind that is actual server performance limitation.