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[Raso]

I just got the K last week but I've yet to settle on a build. I keep switching between an AC10, a UAC, 3 medium lasers and 2 large lasers, dual ARM4s and/or dual SSRMs every few games. I'm running an STD325 engine.

I love my Victor, so far, and plan to gram the one currently one sale if not the Dragon Slayer this weekend.

[Ninjah]

VICTOR VTR-9S 531 272 258 1.05 518 369 1.40 170,097 301,070
1 day 20:52:12



AC20, XL350, 2xERLL, 3JJs, Full armor, AMS, Master level

Modules: Advanced Zoom, Adv. Seismic Sensor, Target Info Gathering

Edited by Ninjah, 12 September 2013 - 12:06 PM.

[KharnZor]

564 games played at over 2 days playing time. 650 kills 369 deaths using xl340, ac20, 2ml 2xsrm6+1srm4

[NRP]

With the Gauss nerf, I'm trying to find another good build for my Dragon Slayer (other than 3 PPCs). Has anyone tried an AC/10+AC/2 combo? An AC/5+UAC/5 combo? Which would be better, or are they both weak? I'd pair them up with either PPC or LLs.

I'd prefer to fight from range with this one, so I'm not concerned with missiles.

[Brenden]

What about this? I don't have the game at the moment, so I need someone to test this out for me.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...fbffb00f42eef84

[NRP]

It will probably work, but it's really hot. Since it looks like a long range build, why not throw an XL300 in there and add a few more DHS? You'll get quite a bit more speed too.

[Brenden]

NRP, on 16 September 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

It will probably work, but it's really hot. Since it looks like a long range build, why not throw an XL300 in there and add a few more DHS? You'll get quite a bit more speed too.

An XL Engine would kill me. In this one, although you have two primary ranged weapons being ER PPCs, you're Primary weapon is that Gauss Rifle. You're suppose to snipe with those PPCs one at a time in Volley Fire.
Though I suppose you could remove two Jump Jets for two more DHS.

[NRP]

Why would an XL engine kill you?

[Brenden]

NRP, on 16 September 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

Why would an XL engine kill you?

It automatically fills up a side torso - most shots hit the side torso. If the one that has the Side Torso is hit hard enough, it'll explode.

[NRP]

Well, I hope you aren't planning to brawl with that build. You'll die from overheating long before you lose a side torso.

Given that it's a long range build, I don't think you'll experience reduced survivability with an XL. I run them in all my Victors and haven't had any problems.

[Brenden]

NRP, on 16 September 2013 - 04:15 PM, said:

Well, I hope you aren't planning to brawl with that build. You'll die from overheating long before you lose a side torso.

Given that it's a long range build, I don't think you'll experience reduced survivability with an XL. I run them in all my Victors and haven't had any problems.

Eh, I don't know. In most of my builds I tend not to use XL engines. And given it's a Long Range build, it's not meant for brawling. I think it's ERPPCs and Gauss cannons can attest to this.
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...89075da0449c4c7
To my Orion. That's also for long range. But with missiles.
Fum-fum-fum.

[NRP]

Well, Victors are fantastic mechs in my opinion. I think you'll really like them (if you don't already own one).

[Brenden]

NRP, on 16 September 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

Well, Victors are fantastic mechs in my opinion. I think you'll really like them (if you don't already own one).

If only my computer could run the game, then I'd try one for sure!

[PASHA]

After the Gauss nerf with my VTR-9K, I've been searching far and wide for a more viable Victor loadout. By viable I mean a Mech that was better capable at point-and-shoot combat. The charge time on the Gauss rifle with my original 9K build was too cumbersome.

After substantial tinkering, I've come to this build. It's absolutely fantastic and I constantly dominate the battlefield (assuming an average team skill base).

VTR-9S
2 ER LL
1 AC/20 - 5 tons of ammo (35 shots)

464 STD armor
XL 370 @ 82.4 Kph w/ tweak
15 DHS
Endo Steel


How to pilot it for the new guys:
-Utilize its speed: Few things intimidate and/or confuse an opponent more than a Victor shifting flanks, moving unpredictably and firing from one position to another. Be sure not to simply charge in (although it's tempting given its bristling AC/20). This leads to the next tip.
- Confuse your opponents: This Mech is relatively cool and allows for repeated firing of its dual ER LLs. Make use of them as much as possible before the main melee happens. Opponents will have to spend some time thinking of how to engage you. "Should I remain distant?" - engage with relentless ER LL fire. "Should I close distance?" – Mess’em up with that AC/20.
- Given the XL engine, this Mech is still somewhat more vulnerable than if it had a STD engine (I say somewhat because the majority of hits still land on my CT). When opponents are softened up (orange/red CT) use that speed to close distance indirectly; turn to the side, use your JJs, and just make yourself a difficult target in general.

The key to this Mech is its maneuverability and speed (especially in proportion to its armor). The AC/20 is an amazing knock-out punch weapon, and the amount of rounds on this loadout allow you to fire many off beyond its optimal 270m range in tandem with the ER LLs. Again, don't charge right in. Make your opponents react to you with this Mech because there's little they can do one on one.

As for stats, I have:
VICTOR VTR-9S 88(Matches) 53(Wins) 35(Losses) 1.51(W/L Ratio) 145(Kills) 41(Deaths) 3.54(K/D Ratio) 36,549(DMG) 80,519(XP) 08:43:43(Time)
Mind you, the K/D ration would be higher given that I was leveling this Victor from the ground up and initially had inferior equipment relative to what I have equipped now.

Edited by Zellkai, 27 September 2013 - 07:02 AM.

[Enderman]

Out of all 3 variants I had the best results with 9S, using the following build:
http://www.mechspecs...hp?topic=3445.0

Stats:
Matches played: 66
W/L: 1.06
K/D: 2.09
However, this was before the UAC nerf, when I could fire 20 UAC5 shots to the enemy CT in 5 seconds, now they fire slightly slower and jam much more often (jam rate was increased from 15% to 20%, minimum recycle time from 500ms to 700ms).

Best thing after UACs - SSRMs mean that you never have problems with lights trying to swarm you.

Edited by Enderman, 26 September 2013 - 09:08 AM.

[Symbiodinium]

Just bought a 9B yesterday, I've been surprisingly pleased with this build. VTR-9B

The entire build is based around the 3xAC2. Sounds goofy and hot but the mech runs surprisingly cool (and I don't have the x2 bonuses yet) and the damage output is pretty impressive. It feels similar to a Jaeger but with much higher survivability. Point it center mass and hold down the trigger until they're not there anymore. The 360XL gives enough speed for pretty good maneuverability, but this build probably has about 2.5 tons of unoptimized "slack", the AMS could be traded for BAP, JJ, DHS, more leg armor etc. to fit your style. It's not great against lights, but perhaps 2 SSRM2 could be fit in.

Edited by Symbiodinium, 29 September 2013 - 04:48 PM.

[Ens]

Sorry i had to dig that one out again.
Well most Pilots know: Victors are mostly used with XL engines...which work quite well with it.

Since today i used my VTR-DS with a 350XL...
but it appears to have more and more smart mechpilots on the battlefield, so even if you torso-twist your a** off....it´s getting harder and harder with an equipped XL engine

so i came out with this:
Dragon Slayer with Std Engine

and i perform damn well with it...well you need to watch your back though.
even with 12 DHS very manageable heat!
thoughts? something to make better?

[WandiXXL]

I think about that loadout : http://mwo.smurfy-ne...939facdbd06b7c0

Any thoughts?

Edited by WandiXXL, 19 October 2013 - 08:17 PM.

[DragonPup]

I just purchased a 9S as my first Assault mech ever. What do you think of this build? http://mwo.smurfy-ne...aeda2a057f505a1

My concern is a total lack of ranged punch, so I am considering dropping the Medium lasers and some other stuff to add a Large Laser instead.

Edited by DragonPup, 23 October 2013 - 08:30 AM.

[Ghogiel]

DragonPup, on 23 October 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

I just purchased a 9S as my first Assault mech ever. What do you think of this build? http://mwo.smurfy-ne...aeda2a057f505a1

My concern is a total lack of ranged punch, so I am considering dropping the Medium lasers and some other stuff to add a Large Laser instead.

It's kinda a classic set up and will probably be much better once the SRMs actually work right.

It doesn't play to the strength of the chassis imo. VTRs are a top tier peak-a-boo sniper that work great in close as long as the have terrain/cover to work around.

Could try dropping those SRMs (until they are up to snuff), upping the meds to 2 ERLL, drop an extra heat sink in there. And you are burning holes for 18 damage with 2 the ERLL at range and close up, and it'll run cool enough to brawl with at a pinch.

The other thing is strip more back armor off and front load it a lot more. The mech is so fast and manuverable with a big engine once you get it elited, you shouldn't have any trouble with a back going out.