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[zorak ramone]

If 3rd person everywhere is inevitable, then I guess its time to check up on Hawken.

They, at least, have committed against 3rd person.

[Dock Steward]

Khobai, on 02 August 2013 - 05:17 AM, said:

Its dumb. Why divide your player base over something as trivial as 3rd person? Especially when most players DONT want it in the game. And we all agree its not gonna help new players.

My guess is PGI will realize its dumb to divide the community, and theyll just force 3rd person on everyone against our will. It's sad, but we all know its coming...

I too am against dividing the player base, but let's ride this thing out and see how it goes. If they ever do force 3rd person view on all of us, we can just stop playing if we feel we have to. That would be a darn shame, but then again, maybe that won't happen.

The sky has structural damage, but it is not yet falling.

[dario03]

Roland, on 02 August 2013 - 05:17 AM, said:

Until they enable it in every queue.

Yeah the drone and questions in the 3pv feedback thread worried me a bit. It kind of sounds like they might be giving up on the separate queues. I guess maybe they always planned on doing it like that (kind of think I do recall them saying the hud would have less info) but if everyone is using 3pv then why does it need to be have cons? Or did they say that there was going to be a 1pv only mode and the 3pv mode would allow both 1pv/3pv?

[Sean von Steinike]

Sure, destructible, takes 5 points of damage and costs 5000 MC per drone.

[Tennex]

wow you want P2W in the form of 3PV?

[Sean von Steinike]

Tennex, on 02 August 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

wow you want P2W in the form of 3PV?

If someone wants to pay 5000 MC per match, they are welcome to. I'd be ok with that.

[INSEkT L0GIC]

dario03, on 02 August 2013 - 09:07 AM, said:

Yeah the drone and questions in the 3pv feedback thread worried me a bit. It kind of sounds like they might be giving up on the separate queues. I guess maybe they always planned on doing it like that (kind of think I do recall them saying the hud would have less info) but if everyone is using 3pv then why does it need to be have cons? Or did they say that there was going to be a 1pv only mode and the 3pv mode would allow both 1pv/3pv?

I bolded the part they said with regards to separate queues.

Hardcore Mode = 1PV only

Standard Mode = 1PV & 3PV available

CW play and tournament play are supposed to be in Hardcore Mode as well.

[GODzillaGSPB]

Extremes...extremes everywhere! ^^

I don't like 3rdPV and see that it both gives the player using it an edge (can view above obstacles). I don't want it in the game...but it is coming anyway.

For those who'd like to use it, making it impossible to use is simply not fair. As much as they could exploit the drone, those opposing it could exploit the fact that the player is probably confused by the rapidly changing perspective in the moment of its destruction, making for the perfect opportunity to kill him.

I like some of the ideas, but still chose "no" for all questions because you combined some of them. The idea with the module slot for instance is a good one. Also that the player has to purchase it, but it should be buyable with cbills.

[Shae Starfyre]

1.) Drone can be destroyed or made Disabled
2.) Requires a launcher
3.) has an ammo type designation with different drone types
4.) has pilot, other drone types, and 'Mech specific quirk synergies
5.) Stop calling it third person, and make it an in depth game feature.
6.) do not split queues

Edited by Aphoticus, 02 August 2013 - 10:58 AM.

[Mechteric]

No. Guys this 3rd person is here for new players, not for those of us who have spent enough time to get modules. Get off it already.

[pencilboom]

3PV is alright.. It's not as game breaking as people claims it to be. It has it's drawbacks.

But I would prefer a game mode called something like "combat skirmish" or "combat training mode" and keep 3PV there. It shouldn't touch Community Warfare ( no 3PV in CW ), and the combat training mode should give maybe 50%-75% of the C-Bills people would normally get from regular matches.

The reason behind this is because people who can't figure out their mech torso-leg movement in the first place are most likely new players..And where would you put new players? In the combat training of course..

On the other hand..The game has so many other broken core mechanics to worry about rather than 3PV..

Just my 2 cents..

Edited by pencilboom, 02 August 2013 - 12:34 PM.

[Mystere]

pencilboom, on 02 August 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

But I would prefer a game mode called something like "combat skirmish" or "combat training mode" and keep 3PV there. It shouldn't touch Community Warfare ( no 3PV in CW )

Actually, I would like it as part of CW simply because the "drone" implementation opens up more than a few possibilities in the information warfare aspect of the game (i.e. what the user sees as "information" may in fact turn out to be misinformation being propagated by the enemy).

[Hexenhammer]

Multitallented, on 01 August 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:

this game is ruined cause 3PV.

Huh. I didn't know something that isn't even on the live servers could ruin a game. This is like saying the Kintaro has destroyed the game.

[Flying Blind]

Check out last question in ATD thread and like it of you want, I asked about ways to control 3pv advantage destructibility of the drone was a specifically mentioned idea.

[Unbound Inferno]

It may be coming, but I say its a wasted effort. Should fix the game first I say. Or said... am still saying?

Whomever in charge of whatever is prioritized there needs to get their head out of where its hiding and see what needs to be done.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

they should have made 3PV a 15k module!

[General Taskeen]

If you don't want to play with 3PV, then don't play in those matches. Simple.

Now move along and discuss things that matter like ECM, MG, Flamer, NARC, and LB 10-X.

[Sean von Steinike]

INSEkT L0GIC, on 02 August 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

I bolded the part they said with regards to separate queues.

Hardcore Mode = 1PV only

Standard Mode = 1PV & 3PV available

CW play and tournament play are supposed to be in Hardcore Mode as well.

Yeah, they said a lot of things that were not true.

[zorak ramone]

Sean von Steinike, on 02 August 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

Yeah, they said a lot of things that were not true.

... Like how first-person was a pillar of the game, and 3pv was never going to be part of the game.

[Tombstoner]

3pv can exist in the game as part of the infowarfare aspect of the game the question is how.

let it be shot down and have a 30-60 second cool down. start from there cause 3pv will be used competativly by scouts. it will need hard counters like destruction.