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[Gwaihir]

NARCoMAN, on 06 August 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

Kid of funny, but we usually don't get more than 10 at a time on anymore since hit detection, PPC/Gauss, and jump sniping became the three musketeers of MWO

Good thing poptarting got un-nerfed in the previous patch, right? Good thing that fundamentally the best mech in the game has been the same since February, the twin PPC + gauss or twin Gauss + PPC Phract 3D, right? It's amazing!

[Kanajashi]

I wonder how the first win of the day XP bonus works with premium and champion mechs...

Also If we have an XP bonus per mech every 24 hours, can we have a C-Bill bonus per account every 24 hours?

[Chronojam]

mania3c, on 06 August 2013 - 09:52 AM, said:

there are also more targets on battlefield.. so 12v12 shouldn't change much..except..people has to me even more careful where to step.. IMHO..this is good for game..

This is pretty adorable

[LiGhtningFF13]

12 vs 12, ... objectives/victims for everyone! Well than good hunting guys and see ya on da next battlefield of mass mech pile-ups!

[Jabilo]

Looks good!

Very exciting looking patch. I never played 12 man on the test server so looking forward to giving this a go.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Chronojam, on 06 August 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

Oh Garth you are such a joker! Please post the real patch notes now, we're waiting! The ballistic hit detection is improved and the ghost heat is removed, right? I've got seven guys here and we'd like to try playing, it's funny you implied we'd need to find four more to be able to drop together anymore, a good joke.

Sometimes I wonder there is only Like and not facepalm or do not like for ppl like you...

[Blalok]

Garth Erlam, on 06 August 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

*Snip* -[list]
[*]CB rewards have been adjusted to compensate for the additional 4 players on the battlefield.

Can we get the maths / more details, please?

[UPnADAM]

Phorashi, on 06 August 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

So I'm gonna not patch and keep playing War Thunder I guess.

You mad Bro?

[Marthe Pryde]

gotta get this educational mech. study study study study study study study study study study study study study!

[Kunae]

Jorghan, on 06 August 2013 - 09:54 AM, said:

Great changes so for, 12 v 12, the lasers...

Still not sure about the PPCs.
Way back in beta ppl complained ("PGI, it is such an iconic weapon and so useless, please fix it!")
So PGI buffed it (cooldown from 4s to 3s and heat from 9.0 to 8.0)
This patch is the second nerf to the PPC and except for projectile speed (which was fixed together with ballistic weapons back in the day) it is now where it started out back then. I'm courious to know if it is still worth the heat, min range and high tonnage compared to the lasers. We will see.

That's because HSR was broken. So they buffed the projectile speed and reduced the heat... then never removed them when PPC's could actually hit things.

They need to raise the heat back to canon levels: PPC=10 heat, ERPPC=15 heat.

[Wales Grey]

SinJinn, on 06 August 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

BETA dude BETA..... things have to be tested before they go live. We are in stage 2 for 12man. Be patient.

Dude we release in like under three months weeks so we have like four one and a half patches tops the way PGI does things. Plus, calling something that's been using agile-type deployment a "Beta" is either a joke or an empty platitude wailed by people who don't understand development of software.

edit: Thank you CeaseToHope for the correction.

Additionally, it would be a beta test, if they actually gave us anything to freaking test. But really, it's your fault, closed beta testers. You are the ones who got "burnt out" after PGI did not change anything for literal weeks during closed beta. Yes, it is all your fault, and not at all the fault of the glorious development team who can do no wrong.

Edited by Wales Grey, 06 August 2013 - 10:03 AM.

[Royalewithcheese]

12v12 is gonna be hilarious.

[Name140704]

Garth Erlam, on 06 August 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

12 v 12, C-bill adjustment, hero mech, other stuff

- The MechWarrior® Online™ Team

Please elaborate on the C-bill adjustment.

[Kunae]

Blalok, on 06 August 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

Can we get the maths / more details, please?

He means they've reduced the cash rewards so that killing 12 returns the equivalent cash as killing 8.

It's a nerf, disguised in double-speak.

[Sprouticus]

Jabilo, on 06 August 2013 - 09:56 AM, said:

Looks good!

Very exciting looking patch. I never played 12 man on the test server so looking forward to giving this a go.

It changes the game, a LOT.

you can't blob very well with 12 mans, so you end up with more of a battle line. Which then enables things like flanks and fast harassers to hit the edges and....well harass.

LRM's are more useful due to better spotting due to more eyes.

Therefore TAG is more useful to bring if you are in an infighter or scout as you can be pretty sure at least one person has LRM's.

Fast caps will have to be watched as well, and play D will become required IMO.

[Ghost Rider LSOV]

Marthe Pryde, on 06 August 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

gotta get this educational mech. study study study study study study study study study study study study study!

[Reno Blade]

Chronojam, on 06 August 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

Oh Garth you are such a joker! Please post the real patch notes now, we're waiting! The ballistic hit detection is improved and the ghost heat is removed, right? I've got seven guys here and we'd like to try playing, it's funny you implied we'd need to find four more to be able to drop together anymore, a good joke.

ehmm, LOL?
HSR is in the work and can't be fixed instantly, same with the old yellow-hud bugs.
And about your 8man team. Guess you were not playing in 8mans before either, or the queue were not as deserted as you and others always want us to believe...
Oh and you seem to haven't read that this WILL come asap when tonnage limits are in.... Not reading everything, huh?

Droz, on 06 August 2013 - 09:45 AM, said:

The good:

12 v 12. PPC heat is closer to original numbers now, which is good.

Pulse duration reduced, which is also good.

The mentioning of TONNAGE limits makes me a very happy person right now.

The Bad:

only 4-man and 12-man, no in between. It was originally planned that when 12 man's go in, you could either go 4-man, 8-man, or 12-man, and the 4 and 8 man would be populated with other players to equal 12.

This makes me very disappointed. Seriously, how is it you can do some things totally great, and totally miss the mark on other things?

You also stated the reason why yourself.
This WILL come asap when tonnage limits are in.... Not reading your own text?
Also it was stated that there will be no more 8mans, but only 12mans and groups of 1-13 will be possible if they trust their ELO.

[William Knight]

"Numbers between 4-12 will be addressed when we get tonnage limits into the game." Thank you!!!

Edited by William Knight, 06 August 2013 - 10:02 AM.

[Dyson Ring]

It's up! Patching now

[Blalok]

Kunae, on 06 August 2013 - 09:59 AM, said:

He means they've reduced the cash rewards so that killing 12 returns the equivalent cash as killing 8.

It's a nerf, disguised in double-speak.

I expect that'll be the case... it'd be nice to see it in print is all. Can't have everyone racking up CBills & (ohmygoodness) needing more mechbays to spend them in...