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[Banshee Bullet]

Russ Bullock, on 12 June 2012 - 08:52 AM, said:

I think your concern might be a little misplaced

^This

[soulfire]

It's normal for people to feel they have that special extra that should let them into beta. Mostly people are just pissed as they havent been let into the club. Devs are doing what they can to get people in but they do want a controlled ramp up in population on their servers. Sooner or later you will get in I am sure. Be thankfull they are letting the general public participate in beta allot of software houses like Blizzard only allow people to be beta testers that are in house.
...I think the PENDING sign wasnt such a great idea as it agitates some on a daily bases but other than that I think they ar4e doing a good job. I know some that are in it I know some that are not, Those that are not in are playing mech 4 or other games to get use to working as a team. Just relax and keep checking in. Its not that far awayand once you get in there will be other things you can complain about. "Jenners are OP man " or the like.

[Pht]

Dear goodness.

People should just get over themselves.
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Look, it's simple. PGI probably has a TON of capitol invested into this game; it is against their self interest to screw it up... If it gets screwed up... we're out of an MW video game... the guys at PGI could very well be out of a JOB if not at least a TON of cash!


The beta testers are most likely trying to replicate known bugs and report them to the Developers and also reporting any new bugs that crop up to the developers; that's probably their *main* job.

[Sychodemus]

I'm still wondering what "fair" has to do with beta testing.

They could hand pick 10,000 testers who are perfectly suited for the responsibility and qualified people would still be left out. Qualified or unqualified, they would still complain.

I am a fairly laid-back sort of person, but these threads are well beyond tedious now.

[UncleKulikov]

What people breaking the NDA?

And if so, who cares? That means another slot opens up for another hopeful....

[Gaius Cavadus]

Chromehounds was dope and more simmy than any of the Mechwarriors.

[oohawkoo]

they could pick half the forums population and there would still be ppl saying its their right to be in beta =/.... id think normaly most ppl arnt as bothered as they are makeing out lol but would prolly help if ppl would stop feeding each others irritation that they didnt get in by posting millions of posts about why they are better and should be in beta NOW! not laters =X cos they are more worthy etc =X or that they know better how to run beta test than anyone else etc etc etc =X

yes they could go get profesional testers but then theyd have to look over all there creds which would take a bloooooody long time =X makeing beta last way way longer =X,,,, someone simply saying they have done testing befor really cant be trusted since a lot will say they have when they havent just to get in =X....

so yeah those that are getting seriously bothered should really try to calm down =.= it wont be long over befor we all get into the game one way or another =X

>< and please stop witht he endless im more worthy for beta postx =X they were amuseing at first but its getting really annoying =X

perhaps one of the mods can sticky one of the endless beta whiny posts so they dont have to go makeing new ones all the time =X (tho i doubt this would fix the issue lol


(sorry tired and irritated >< dont mean any offence so sorry if anyone takes it)

Edited by oohawkoo, 12 June 2012 - 02:31 PM.

[CabooseJr]

WardenWolf, on 12 June 2012 - 08:59 AM, said:

I posted this in another thread, but I think it bears saying here:


Lots of folks on these forums are complaining about not having gotten a beta key, or how their friend who has one isn't as deserving as they are because he is new to the BT franchise, or how not enough keys have been given out for a proper beta in their opinion, or it looks like a PR stunt, etc. Since the fact is that none of us who aren't in the beta yet know exactly what is going on, and those who are in the beta can't say due to NDA, we all need to just sit tight and wait.

In the meantime, though, I wanted to offer some constructive thoughts about what may be going on in the beta. This is as much speculation as what everyone else has been posting, but may give you all some encouragement rather than the depressing repeated cries for a beta invite that other threads have devolved into.

1) At the moment, I strongly suspect the beta is focused on finding bugs and general balance. Some folks have talked about stress-testing servers, and I think that will come later. At least as of the weight class videos they made there were still bugs / major missing features. Check out the light mech preview, for example:

http://mwomercs.com/...deo/4gEQkyLbCjE

At 2:07-2:10 we see a Catapult get destroyed... and which point it falls over and disappears. Sounds like some missing graphics / effects, and there is no point in stress-testing hardware until the majority of the features are in-game.

Further, at 2:20 - in the middle of a jump - there is some sort of glitch where the visuals change for a split second. Figuring our why those things are happening and fixing them is what the beta is likely focused on at this point.

That actually brings up a good point, in case any beta testers (or future testers) happen to be reading this. If your computer can handle the added load of running a recording program, like FRAPS, it might be a good idea. Then, when you do encounter a bug, you can make a short video clip of it to better help the devs.

2) Because the beta is likely still in this stage, there may be a lot of added debug code running - especially recording info on the server side of things. This would add load on their hardware, making a stress-test of the servers an even worse idea because that debug code will be gone when the full game launches. It also means a lot of data for the devs to pour over, and so keeping the number of beta players relatively low for now means that they have a manageable amount of information to work with.

3) I suspect the devs will want to test on a wide variety of hardware, so that they can get a good idea for what the minimum requirements for the game really are. As such, I would recommend not worrying too much about your system hardware.

That last item segues really well into something else I wanted to mention. I have seen several people post about how they have a friend who got into the beta by just copying their answers to the profile questionnaire, and now they feel disenfranchised. To those folks: this is a *good* sign for you! It means that whatever you put down, and your friend copied, fits the requirements the devs have for who they want in the beta. That means, if anything, that your chances of getting an invite in the future might be better So stop whining, please, and for your friends' sake stop mentioning that they got into the beta... you might just get them kicked out for violating the NDA!!!!

Thats gotta be a Lyran group, cause that sure as heck was not a light mech scouting

[Insidious Johnson]

People still have Mechlete's Jock Itch over beta? This is only about 1/2 way between when closed started and when buy in beta begins. I got bad news for ya if you see beta as half empty: the wait will only get longer for ya since you a half empty type observer. The easiest way out would be just go critical, putting yourself out of misery: yours and ours. You won't miss anything after that, ever. Can I has all your stuff after? You won't be needing it and as long as I have it, at least one person will remember you.

[BuSH]

I'm concerned with the amount of crying from people who claim there adults.

It's unreal.

[Solis Obscuri]

Technoviking, on 12 June 2012 - 01:31 PM, said:

I hope so too. The part I am in disagreement is when you said "hardcore BTech/MW is no different from Joe Blow"... I guess you are right in sayin "hardcore BT Money is no different from Joe Blow money"... but their vision as you say is tied to the TrueBeliever. When the Devs speak, they are speaking to US, it feels. The "millions of players" that we want, most dont' even have this game on their radar yet. Heck, only 100k on the forums. That's only 5% of 2 million player base. So... all this... stuff is for us. When they grab "joe blow" they are still grabbling "Joe 'gamer hard core enough to sign up for a robot game forum' Blow." That's still one of us...

The challenge is to create a game that's satisfying to the more hardcore BT enthusiasts without being too unapproachable for people unfamiliar with the genre, or too alienating to fans of the previous MW games. All things considered, though, both CBT and the MW video games have had a substantial following (at least video games that I can think of, and MW2 was immensely popular and well reviewed), and the franchise was also able to support over 100 novels set in the BT universe. Seems like a pretty good base to work from.

But part of the problem is attracting some alienated CBT fans back to the fold - some who are dissatisfied with previous games, others who burned out between the Clan/Jihad/Dark Age story arcs (some parts of which did stretch credibility even by MWs longstanding space opera roots). Looking at the MW video games, the earlier titles seem to have tried to stick fairly close to TT, MW2 tried as well, though certain gameplay concessions were made to allow fighting massively unbalanced PvE engagements that made up the storyline. MW3 tried to clean up some of MW2's weapons and movement mechanics and make the game more of a "sim" feel, but it too made a lot of concessions to support "epic" campaign missions. MW4 then tried to clean-up game balance by adding a lot of new (and sometimes dumbed-down) mechlab restrictions to make multi-player more functional, but in the process took the game much further from it's roots. Essentially, games built on one another, without refreshing from MWs TT roots. MWO is trying to go back to the drawing board, without completely ignoring the lessons of past games, which, IMO, gives it a good chance to pick up a lot of old fans as well as gain a lot of new fans.

[Kael Tropheus]

Not reading all the pages of this as only the little bit I read in the first post matters. Why exactly is it a problem? You are upset you didnt get to play first before anyone else? I ***** and moan about alot of things on here about how the direction of the game seems to be going outside of combat. The combat of the game seems good, the meta is going in totally the wrong direction in my opinion from anti-lore massive customization to the economy. I havent once seen anything to complain about regarding the beta keys. So you have to wait to play like 99.5% of the rest of us. Oh darn. I remember a time long before devs even let people get this much information and games were pretty much just released and all testing was internal or with a select play group. ******** because they seemingly randomly selected people to play ahead of time is not a very valid complaint. Next time succinct sentence or two, not full blown wall Otext.

[Shephard]

Chromehounds Garbage? I take issue with that statement!

[Sierra19]

Now granted I'm VERY late to the party, because this game fell off my radar after the initial buzz a year or so ago. But it would be in the best interest of the developers to get a bunch on total newbs, with little or no previous experience with the BT franchise, because THEY will make up a vast majority of new players. There are 100,000 or so forum users, and quite a few of us will throw a bucket or two of money at the devs (initially), but what keeps the game going and the community growing, are the F2P guys/girls that come in, spend $5, $10, or $20 on the game, then maybe stick around, or maybe they leave. Those are the drivers of the game, not us BT-heads, unless of course we throw down $60 EVERY MONTH while we play. I know a few people who can't wait for the game to come out, but don't plan on spending a dime on it, then there are players like me that won't have a problem spending a couple of hundred dollars a year on the game (assuming it lives up to it's hype). I shudder to think how much I've spent on WoT over the last couple of years. But I like to support games I enjoy playing, and this will most likely be one of them.

[WardenWolf]

CabooseJr, on 12 June 2012 - 02:29 PM, said:

Thats gotta be a Lyran group, cause that sure as heck was not a light mech scouting

Yeah, that enemy "scout" at 1:00-1:30 was a Hunchback... but since it wasn't an Atlas, I don't think the group was Lyran

Edited by WardenWolf, 12 June 2012 - 02:57 PM.

[Kifferson von doober]

PhelanPatrickKell, on 12 June 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

Here's the thing with this. I'm a huge Battletech/MechWarrior fan, and to say it doesn't nag a little that my friend (Not even remotely a fan of the franchise) is playing and I'm not would be a lie.
But I also know that this is neither by design nor intent.

What I also know is that my friend is a very capable gamer, with plenty of experience beta testing, and is very dedicated to testing features and submitting bug reports for any issues found.
Knowing this, I have to believe that he's not the only person like that in the couple thousand currently testing, and I have to believe that they are doing their best to help PGI get a friggin awesome MechWarrior game on the market.


So really, lets sit back and relax. Take a chill pill, and eagerly wait for the best MechWarrior game ever to hit the market.

This kinda hits it on the head for me, I too am a huge fan but more from tabletop than from a computer angle. So i'm checking in daily to see if i'm lucky but i've never beta tested anything before so i'm unlikely to be of as much use as anyone who's playing mmo's all day.
If i'm lucky then i'll do a happy little dance if i'm not then thats cool too. I'll get into a mech cockpit sooner or later.

[OldDirtyFox]

Don't do putting other mech games down like a fan boy.

Steel battalion
Armored core
Chromehounds
Zone of Enders
Robo Tech
Carnage Heart
Phantom Crash
Battle Tech the table top game

Mech games I love them I've played most of what I could get my hands on.
They all have ther own play styles and feel to them and just like this game
will have.
Don't go into a game with the idea of how it should and should not be
you will only be disapointed just wait and keep and open mind about
what it will be.

[Saren21]

I think this post needs some David Bowie. In fact i think it needs ziggy stardust....


Ziggy played guitar, jammin' good with Weird and Gilly,
The spiders from Mars, he played it left hand
But made it too far
Became the special man, then we were Ziggy's band

Ziggy really sang, screwed up eyes and screwed down hairdo
Like some cat from Japan, he could lick 'em by smiling
He could leave 'em to hang
Came on so loaded man, well hung and snow white tan

So where were the spiders while the fly tried th break our balls
Just a beer light to guide us
So we bitched about his fans and should we crush his sweet hands?

Ziggy played for time, jiving us that we was voodoo
The kids was just crass. He was the nazz
With God given ***
He took it all too far, but boy could he play guitar

Making love with his ego, Ziggy sucked up into his mind
Like a leper messiah
When the kids had killed the man I had to break up the band

Ziggy PPPPLLAAAAYYYEEEDDD GGGGGUUUUUIIIIIITTTTAAAARRRRR

ok now back to the topic at hand....

Edited by Saren21, 12 June 2012 - 03:26 PM.

[Cur]

I think the reason why so many people feel they should be entitled to the beta key is...

We've waited what... 10 years? For the game to be revived again? Thats a longass wait. Being a dedicated MW fan for that long kinda makes you feel like your entitled to it, no?

And please dont say we could have been playing MWLL instead. That game is dead because theres only 3 servers that actualy have players on them, 1 us US two are EU, and they are all ping locked so only people local to the server can play on them. Crappy game if "its avaliable to everyone" but in reality only 20% of the people that want to play it, can actualy play it.

[Chuckie]

RG Notch, on 12 June 2012 - 01:15 PM, said:

So wait a minute, you're saying they should stop their free advertisers by giving them beta keys which would keep them from doing this marketing because they will be spending time testing? Doesn't make a lot of sense from their side. why give up all that free work to have you simply be one of thousands of testers? If anything these folks would be the last I would add. Forums dry up, free marketing dries up. No offense but I doubt that your beta testing would help out as much as keeping you out there. Seriously, if you are so into helping the game you shouldn't even want in. Seems like the best place for people like this is at their computers refreshing looking for beta invite while giving PGI free advertising.

You know.. part of me truly wonders if the "noisiest" and biggest promoters of the game aren't getting keys specifically because of that. That and they know thy have us hook line and sinker, so why give us a reason to go quiet.

That's when I realize since the argument can go both ways, that I hope it is random


Although my luck with random things like this isn't good.

BuSH, on 12 June 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

I'm concerned with the amount of crying from people who claim there adults.

It's unreal.

" But I have diverticulitis... !!!!! "

Edited by Chuckie, 13 June 2012 - 05:22 AM.