29 replies to this topic

[Derring-Do]

So I have decided to pick this up again after an 8 month hiatus.

It looks like I have 6500 MC, 14 mil CB. and a Yen Lo Wang.

I prefer Energy and Missile weapons. I have been practicing on Ballistics, but I am not competent yet.

What mech would you buy for 6500 MC with good energy and missile hardpoints? I prefer the CB boost from the Hero mechs.

Thoughts?

[Orchid Vein]

STK-M Misery!!!! Lots of LRMs, 3 slots for SRMs, PPC capable and you STILL have a BL hardpoint to practice your AC marksmanship :D It is the only Stalker that has one of those slots.

*is super jealous of that MC* xD

[Koniving]

Orchid Vein, on 11 August 2013 - 09:37 AM, said:

STK-M Misery!!!! Lots of LRMs, 3 slots for SRMs, PPC capable and you STILL have a BL hardpoint to practice your AC marksmanship It is the only Stalker that has one of those slots.

*is super jealous of that MC* xD

Uh, Orchid I hate to tell ya... That would make sense, but the actual hardpoints are as follows.

1 Missile (right torso) with 6 tubes. 5 energy (2 left arm, 2 right arm, 1 center torso). 1 ballistic (left torso).

[Orchid Vein]

Ooooh. I am getting them mixed up from looking at so many varients the last couple days. I forgot that one doesn't have the 3 ML hardpoints. Omg how amazing would it be to have a LRM15- 3 SRM slots, 4 energy slots and a BL slot? *daydreams this for a few minutes* xD

But my original point remains... GET THE MISERY! :D

[Iqfish]

Get a Flame. Or an Ilya with 2 LB 10X and 2 LL. Save the rest or buy some Mechbays, I bought the Flame very early and I have 900+ matches with it, I never regretted this buy.

If you are more experienced, get a Dragon Slayer. This is a really good mech but it needs some skill to drive this thing.

And of course get your builds from here, its a great site:

www.mechspecs.com

[Eisenhorne]

I've been rocking the dragon slayer lately, and its awesome. Makes a hell of a PPC/Gauss sniper.

[MisterFiveSeven]

I'd still say Misery.

It is the best mech in the game. If you want to practice ballistics (ac20 or gauss), there isn't a more forgiving platform.

[fatcat01]

If you want your MC's worth for hero 'mechs I would highly suggest the Firebrand.

Comes with DHS, Endo, and a good sized XL to boot. Also leaves you some MC for other goodies

No missile hardpoints, but it has lots of energy HPs (and a couple of ballistic so you can get that practice in if you want)

My favorite loadout is like so: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f70a2c9c4ef415c

Edited by fatcat01, 11 August 2013 - 10:44 AM.

[Sasha Volkova]

fatcat01, on 11 August 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

If you want your MC's worth for hero 'mechs I would highly suggest the Firebrand.

Comes with DHS, Endo, and a good sized XL to boot. Also leaves you some MC for other goodies

No missile hardpoints, but it has lots of energy HPs (and a couple of ballistic so you can get that practice in if you want)

My favorite loadout is like so: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...f70a2c9c4ef415c

I like the idea with the ERPPC's as they are very high placed.
But the mech seems to be a sniper?
I am basing this on the fact that 2 x ERPPC's becomes VERY hot VERY fast so brawling in it is not the best idea :b

So if its a long range build anyway, why not go like this : http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6a8c8f39e1c9fa2
It runs an XL sure, but it also has more ams ammo to deal with the missiles you will no doubt see in every game now, plus it gives you the same speed, 1 more heatsink and 2 Large lasers to deal more damage to lights together with the machine guns up close.
Plus if you want to the L lasers can also help you finish off someone from a distance better than the M lasers could.
:b

Edited by 0okami, 11 August 2013 - 10:58 AM.

[Scromboid]

Save it for Mech Bays you can't afford to put Mechs in because they nerfed the CBill gain.

[fatcat01]

0okami, on 11 August 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

I like the idea with the ERPPC's as they are very high placed.
But the mech seems to be a sniper?
I am basing this on the fact that 2 x ERPPC's becomes VERY hot VERY fast so brawling in it is not the best idea :b

So if its a long range build anyway, why not go like this : http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6a8c8f39e1c9fa2
It runs an XL sure, but it also has more ams ammo to deal with the missiles you will no doubt see in every game now, plus it gives you the same speed, 1 more heatsink and 2 Large lasers to deal more damage to lights together with the machine guns up close.
Plus if you want to the L lasers can also help you finish off someone from a distance better than the M lasers could.
:b

I find that taking advantage of the high placement of the arms on the Jager is the key to success. exposing enough of your mech to use the lower hardpoints is not worth the risk; especially when you have an XL. LLs in the torso also mean that you have to spend more time facing your target.

Nothing wrong with your build (although 2 tons AMS ammo is almost never necessary), but it doesn't fit the play style I use

Edited by fatcat01, 11 August 2013 - 11:31 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

I would look into spending that 14 mil first. All hero mechs require you to have at least two more mundane mechs of that chassis in order to finish the skill tree.

[Sasha Volkova]

fatcat01, on 11 August 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

I find that taking advantage of the high placement of the arms on the Jager is the key to success. exposing enough of your mech to use the lower hardpoints is not worth the risk; especially when you have an XL. LLs in the torso also mean that you have to spend more time facing your target.

Nothing wrong with your build (although 2 tons AMS ammo is almost never necessary), but it doesn't fit the play style I use

I think you got it wrong...
Its not intended to snipe with the L lasers...
The range on those is far too low compared to the ERPPC's.
The L lasers deal more damage faster up close than their smaller M cousins.
That was why I opted for L lasers.
Not to go over a hill and play ***** on the top of it xD
Play it like you would your own build, go hulldown and snipe with the ERPPC's and use the M guns and L lasers to scare off lights who gets too close.
Simple and efficient that way :b

Edited by 0okami, 11 August 2013 - 11:36 AM.

[Barrett]

Jaeger: Firebrand. 2x AC10's in the arms and 4x ML's in the torso.
I can take a Atlas headon and survive with this setup.

But for 6500 I'd venture for the champion atlas, as it has lotsa laser hardpoints, missiles and a ballistic point.

[Roosterfish]

If I had a Lo Wang, 6500 MC, and 14mil CB here's what I'd do.

With some of the 14mil CB I'd buy another Cent pimped out and work up the piloting tree till I finished Basic and enough saved xp to finish out the second tier skills.

Then I'd take the left over CB's I had from the Cent purchase, the CB's gained from grinding the xp, and purchase my third Cent varient. Then grind it out just like the other.

After all that grinding I'd look back and see what ones I'd keep and sell the ones I hated. See how many bays I had empty and look at starting a new mech to skill up. Make sure I had 3 empty bays and look to see if the next mech had a hero and buy that first...

[PoLaR]

I think "the best 'Mech In the game" Is really what best suits a pilot by their ideal preferences. Not saying that Misery Isn't a great Hero because Its one of the only Hero's I don't have. That said, the Dragon Slayer has brought me much wealth and experience. Can't go wrong with the Illya and the Flame Is one of my old favorites.

If you like going fast you could get a Spider, as they have been very popular lately and can be tricky to take down. I would prefer a Jenner D. Medium 'Mechs, I've been having fun with the Quickdraws lately, but you can never go wrong with a Centerion or Hunchy. A lot of people, including myself really enjoy the Victor, but you could always go for the extra tonnage and get a Highlander, Heavy Metal Is an excellent choice. It's all In preference.

Edited: Wall of text...

Edited by PoLaR, 11 August 2013 - 11:55 AM.

[Derring-Do]

Redshift2k5, on 11 August 2013 - 11:29 AM, said:

I would look into spending that 14 mil first. All hero mechs require you to have at least two more mundane mechs of that chassis in order to finish the skill tree.

I rather like this idea.

Roosterfish, on 11 August 2013 - 11:47 AM, said:

If I had a Lo Wang, 6500 MC, and 14mil CB here's what I'd do.

Rooster, great idea. But I should have mentioned. I did exactly this before I quit playing in November. I have unlocked the Centurion chassis completely, and kept the YLW and the CN9-A.


I think I am leaning towards the Victor. I already have some 3k XP in the trial 9K. So I will probably buy one of those, and hope for a sale on another chassis before buying a DS.

Edited by mod5csi, 11 August 2013 - 11:54 AM.

[fatcat01]

0okami, on 11 August 2013 - 11:35 AM, said:

I think you got it wrong...
Its not intended to snipe with the L lasers...
The range on those is far too low compared to the ERPPC's.
The L lasers deal more damage faster up close than their smaller M cousins.
That was why I opted for L lasers.
Not to go over a hill and play ***** on the top of it xD
Play it like you would your own build, go hulldown and snipe with the ERPPC's and use the M guns and L lasers to scare off lights who gets too close.
Simple and efficient that way :b

If the LLs are not for ranged fighting then I would go with 4 MLs and extra HS (of you're already hot from the ERPPCs, LLs are going to be hard to use)

not to mention that lights are not as much of a problem when you can lose a ST and keep going. There as been a ridiculous number of times that I've gotten solid hits on lights because they slowed down to hit my ST thinking I had an XL.

[Sasha Volkova]

fatcat01, on 11 August 2013 - 12:00 PM, said:

If the LLs are not for ranged fighting then I would go with 4 MLs and extra HS (of you're already hot from the ERPPCs, LLs are going to be hard to use)

not to mention that lights are not as much of a problem when you can lose a ST and keep going. There as been a ridiculous number of times that I've gotten solid hits on lights because they slowed down to hit my ST thinking I had an XL.

Oh my I made a little mistake, I did not realize it could handle 4 M lasers in the torso...
this calls for a fix!!!!
There we go: http://mwo.smurfy-ne...cec7f27a1429e9f
Much better.
Easily one of the fastest and most viable energy based Firebrands that are out there.

Regarding lights though, its all about positioning and awareness really :b

Edited by 0okami, 11 August 2013 - 12:13 PM.

[Roosterfish]

mod5, you're already at the look for next mech to work up then.

I'm sorta in the same position, I've got 3 Hunchie's P, SP, and J mastered/some with modules. All the Catapult's mastered/some with modules. With an empty mech bay. I've only got 305 MC right now and a little less than 35mil CB.

Looking at my next mech I'm thinking of either Cents, Jagers, Cataphracts, Victors, or Stalkers. I do want to eventually get a Hero that I'd like to grind CB with so I'll have to get some more MC's for it and some more bays. Just can't make up my mind how I want to go yet though.