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[Windies]

Sad turn of events but it shows PGI's true colors. I never expected less but I sure hoped for more from them.

[Wales Grey]

LakeDaemon, on 16 August 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Nope I said it failed when it became personally insulting to the people of PGI. If you cant be professional or if you let anger, vitriol and sense of entitlement shape your dialogue then you are going to be ignored or treated like kids. That's not PGI unjustly stonewalling you. That's what anyone would do to you and as I am about to do as well. I wish you the best of luck.

We were professional, we were polite, we were everything you mentioned.

We were ignored.

[Chronojam]

INAPPROPRIATE NAME 0001, on 16 August 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

RIP in peace goon community rep power grab

Oh crap they found out our plan abort, abort, cowbird is in the nest I repeat cowbird is in the nest, eggs to aviary 3 asap

[valkyrie]

LakeDaemon, on 16 August 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Nope I said it failed when it became personally insulting to the people of PGI. If you cant be professional or if you let anger, vitriol and sense of entitlement shape your dialogue then you are going to be ignored or treated like kids. That's not PGI unjustly stonewalling you. That's what anyone would do to you and as I am about to do as well. I wish you the best of luck.

Oh no, see, people have been professional towards PGI about fixing problems with their game before. Guess where those threads ended up?

Edited by valkyrie, 16 August 2013 - 10:11 PM.

[Oderint dum Metuant]

They don't want bad stuff in view before release, see the removal of general discussion.

You've also shown a little too much influence with the AtD push so now need to be exterminated as to not pollute the system



Not surprised a plastic mod ruined the thread, and then a puppeteer comes in to back the stupidity of modding.
I mean it's ok for Garth to tell people in chat not to be a peni$..........so why would you expect any level of professionalism at all.






Kong have jumped into bed with Ngng...Ah ma Gawd!

Edited by DV McKenna, 16 August 2013 - 10:54 PM.

[gwarm]

LakeDaemon, on 16 August 2013 - 08:54 PM, said:

Nope I said it failed when it became personally insulting to the people of PGI.

When did this ever happen? Admittedly I haven't been keeping a close watch on the situation as I have kind of given up on MWO, but everything I saw of SaveMWO was incredibly professional. You mentioned the name itself being insulting, but I always saw it as as kitschy play off of "Save the whales!" or "Save the rain forest!" If random people started tossing out insults that can hardly be considered the fault of WoL. We certainly can't control the posting habits of the hundreds of folks who attended the Town Hall. I'd be a different thing if Anders or Gwaihir were cursing at the developers, but I highly doubt that is happening.

[New Day]

Dustmuffins, on 16 August 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Mod actions have made Notch write a post sympathetic to #saveMWO.

That's how screwed up this is.

Really? Could I get a link to that?

[GeishaGirl]

EvE < 1%, MWO < 0.005%: Truly the "Toys out of the Pram throwers" make the sound of one hand clapping.

Judging from the last meeting maybe a new thread is also needed: "#savesavemwo"? (tehe)


At least the developers have some very useful Intel about who isn't loyal to their interests from this exercise, so it has some use. But praise to them that they allow freedom of expression on their forums to discuss concerns even if it is not representative.

Have fun in continuing to burn your bridges Goons and Goon sympathisers, very wise and diplomatic.

[Gwaihir]

lol?

[Chronojam]

Space McCarthyism. If you don't buy Phoenix and sign the oath, you're disloyal.

[Trev Firestorm]

GeishaGirl, on 17 August 2013 - 09:48 AM, said:

EvE < 1%, MWO < 0.005%: Truly the "Toys out of the Pram throwers" make the sound of one hand clapping.

Judging from the last meeting maybe a new thread is also needed: "#savesavemwo"? (tehe)


At least the developers have some very useful Intel about who isn't loyal to their interests from this exercise, so it has some use. But praise to them that they allow freedom of expression on their forums to discuss concerns even if it is not representative.

Have fun in continuing to burn your bridges Goons and Goon sympathisers, very wise and diplomatic.

I take it you have not actually listened to the townhalls then?

[Wales Grey]

Trev Firestorm, on 17 August 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

I take it you have not actually listened to the townhalls then?

What do you expect from a one-post, throw-away account who's first post is in an obscure subforum-subforum?

[Team Leader]

Uh, what happened?

[Belorion]

Trev Firestorm, on 17 August 2013 - 08:29 PM, said:

I take it you have not actually listened to the townhalls then?

I have listened to the 2nd town hall, and skimmed through the transcript of the first one, and read the letter...

I can understand that you guys think things should be going a different direction. I even support your lobbying for change in a constructive way.

I haven't seen the evidence that your members can stay constructive. If you can, then more kudos to you.

[MustrumRidcully]

I don't know. SAying PGI moderation deliberately tried to "bait" the thread into being closed/moved/whatever seems like a bit too paranoid. That doesn't mean it couldn't be true, but if it were, it would be pointless to try to argue against it on these forums.

Focus on the actual topic. How can we, as community, help PGI make this game the best Mechwarrior Title ever?
I think it should in many cases more about procedure rather than specific details often - individual community members, me included, love to get into details, but I think we first need to establish a process to ensure that the best ideas are found and used.

[Noesis]

MustrumRidcully, on 18 August 2013 - 11:58 AM, said:

I don't know. SAying PGI moderation deliberately tried to "bait" the thread into being closed/moved/whatever seems like a bit too paranoid. That doesn't mean it couldn't be true, but if it were, it would be pointless to try to argue against it on these forums.

Focus on the actual topic. How can we, as community, help PGI make this game the best Mechwarrior Title ever?
I think it should in many cases more about procedure rather than specific details often - individual community members, me included, love to get into details, but I think we first need to establish a process to ensure that the best ideas are found and used.

And yet the vast majority of MWO players seem to be quite happy with the means of discussion currently presented to them. It's only the #savemwo minority that thinks change is needed, but why is it then that the rest of the community can work together with each other and the Devs and present their ideas accordingly?

Fundamentally the idea content is the same however it gets presented. So the only way of changing this I would see as being able to better control the content as presented to MWO. A group of players wanting to manipulate and control direction to the development of MWO, this does not sound like Goons at all.

[sgt scout]

Over the past few days iv been reading this thread.

You people are a joke, i was looking for game play balance and discussions over what should be done. If any one from PGI read through this thread as i have they would find nothing but petty back and forth discussions offering no change or solution to the game and its current state.

So this is the thread for how competitive players and the best amongst us feel the game should be changed ??????

Nop, no suggestions and nothing of merit in here.

In #saveMWOtownhall#1 i wished you guys luck in your endeavour to change the game and open some form of communication with the devs and change the pattern of how information, or the lack of it is received.

The babel of garbage all over this thread truly has doomed all those changes players hoping you top tier guys and girls would bring. You have let down all of those silent in anticipation for positive and constructive feed back and have achieved nothing.

If this thread offers the cream of the crop of the mechwarrior online competitive community, it is no wounder the game is in the state its in.

I have more faith in PGI than i do you guys, and that is saying something.

To summarise, you have said and offered nothing for any one from PGI to go on, how can they answer non existing questions or read through balance discussions when there is none. 10 pages of trash.

[TOGSolid]

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To summarise, you have said and offered nothing for any one from PGI to go on, how can they answer non existing questions or read through balance discussions when there is none. 10 pages of trash.

If you think this is bad then go read that "letter" from their first townhall they submitted. That thing was hilariously inept and didn't offer anything of value.



Replace CCP with PGI and you get how all of this #savemwo stuff comes off.

Edited by TOGSolid, 18 August 2013 - 12:56 PM.

[sgt scout]

TOGSolid, on 18 August 2013 - 12:55 PM, said:

If you think this is bad then go read that "letter" from their first townhall they submitted. That thing was hilariously inept and didn't offer anything of value.



Replace CCP with PGI and you get how all of this #savemwo stuff comes off.

^ Ok thread just got better

LOL

[Nekki Basara]

Bless you pubbies, bless you every one

Except you cool pubbies, you know who you are.