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#601 Tolkien

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:38 AM

View PostSteadfast, on 25 August 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

Because its a .jpg.


I'm also pretty sure it's a marketing promotion and they have already decided to give people who buy in all of those things.

The graph will tick up towards launch day and will get all the way to the end.

It's a type of psychological reinforcement to make you feel good about the purchase that so many others are doing it, and helps reinforce the buying behaviour.

#602 Lucas Dagger

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 07:52 AM

View Post80Bit, on 16 August 2013 - 04:03 PM, said:

Is it just me, or are these the PC Gamer skin colors?



Ummmm ya me too

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:40 AM

View Postkauky shadinkle, on 25 August 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:



Ummmm ya me too

Adjust your monitor, or get your eyes checked. They are similar colours, but they are not the same colours, as has been covered again and again (and again and again) in this thread, complete with side by side pics.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:47 AM

we won't make phase 2... leave alone phase 3.
but that's okay, it's just a bonus anyway.

can't wait to build a locust that gets one-shotted by pretty much everything^^

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 08:53 AM

View PostBulletChief, on 25 August 2013 - 08:47 AM, said:

we won't make phase 2... leave alone phase 3.
but that's okay, it's just a bonus anyway.

can't wait to build a locust that gets one-shotted by pretty much everything^^


If they added a 5th tier with more awesome, I'd upgrade in a heartbeat, and gladly so.

#606 Druidika

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 10:36 AM

I monitor the phoenix progress bar for updates every five minutes, and the bar for phase 2 went to 60% about ten minutes ago.

The speed at which the bar moves didn't change much: Posted Image
(145% because phase 1 is 100% completed - doesn't matter for the calculations)

Extrapolating from that, it will take until mid-November to unlock phase 3, assuming phase 3 is just as long as phase 2.

#607 RG Notch

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 10:50 AM

View PostDruidika, on 25 August 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

I monitor the phoenix progress bar for updates every five minutes, and the bar for phase 2 went to 60% about ten minutes ago.

The speed at which the bar moves didn't change much: Posted Image
(145% because phase 1 is 100% completed - doesn't matter for the calculations)

Extrapolating from that, it will take until mid-November to unlock phase 3, assuming phase 3 is just as long as phase 2.

Don't worry, there is no goal announced so they can just change it to allow it to unlock. You think they will show if the numbers re are really slow or dropping. Whatever their current goal is just their position at this time. They can lower it anytime so it looks like it's advancing quicker.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 10:54 AM

View PostCountry Gravy, on 24 August 2013 - 06:12 AM, said:


With a hero mech and premium time I am getting 200K for wins pretty consistently. Don't like the grind? Spend more $$$. Isn't that how a F2P game works?

No.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:07 AM

View PostDruidika, on 25 August 2013 - 10:36 AM, said:

I monitor the phoenix progress bar for updates every five minutes, and the bar for phase 2 went to 60% about ten minutes ago.

The speed at which the bar moves didn't change much: Posted Image
(145% because phase 1 is 100% completed - doesn't matter for the calculations)

Extrapolating from that, it will take until mid-November to unlock phase 3, assuming phase 3 is just as long as phase 2.


Well if we consider 1st update was a 5% increase and 2nd update it's a 10% then that means there is more ppl upgrading/buying Phoenix on the 2nd update, even more if we consider all the ppl who asked for refund...

Or the same time spawn it means each XX time, the update bar moves up despite what the real status is.

Anyway the more i get for free the better, right now 3x more colors (even if they are similar ) and with some luck a cockpit medallion.. i guess we really need more backers for the flame pattern ;)

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:09 AM

View PostLord Perversor, on 25 August 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:


Well if we consider 1st update was a 5% increase and 2nd update it's a 10% then that means there is more ppl upgrading/buying Phoenix on the 2nd update, even more if we consider all the ppl who asked for refund...


No, it doesn't mean that. The speed actually slowed down a little.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:51 AM

View PostSniper09121986, on 23 August 2013 - 08:37 AM, said:

Pre-ordered the Overlord package with Early Bird bonus. I looked in the Unlocked section, but I can't seem to find these colors. Where are they exactly?



October 15th, any mech you own can use "Phoenix Black, Red, White."

Edited by Die Primate Die, 25 August 2013 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 11:56 AM

View PostDirePhoenix, on 25 August 2013 - 06:41 AM, said:


The existence of Robotech Tactics has no bearing on the rest of the Unseen. Neither would a new Dougram product have an effect of these current Project Phoenix 'mechs.

The art developed for Project Phoenix is new art created specifically for MWO. It is not the old Dougram art. PGI could very well create new art for the 'mechs that used art from Macross. It just can't look like the original art. And in case you haven't noticed, all the 'mechs in MWO are using new art that hasn't been used elsewhere. Not just the Unseen. PGI doesn't have the rights from Topps to use the art used in the current sourcebooks. Just like PGI doesn't have the rights to use Dougram art. That hasn't stopped them from making new art for the 'mechs that we have now, it hasn't stopped them from making new art for Project Phoenix, and it shouldn't stop them from making new art for the rest of the Unseen should they desire to put those 'mechs in MWO. It just can't use the original art.

There is no dispute against having those 'mechs in any game, just the art used to originally portray them. If they make new art there is no issue.



For all my distrust and anger with PGI, I readily admit after being a professional miniature painter of BT armies in the 80's who also rolled the dice, their game versions of classic Mechs are far better than the originals, appearance-wise.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 12:12 PM

View PostLord Perversor, on 25 August 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:



Well if we consider 1st update was a 5% increase and 2nd update it's a 10% then that means there is more ppl upgrading/buying Phoenix on the 2nd update, even more if we consider all the ppl who asked for refund...

Or the same time spawn it means each XX time, the update bar moves up despite what the real status is.

Anyway the more i get for free the better, right now 3x more colors (even if they are similar ) and with some luck a cockpit medallion.. i guess we really need more backers for the flame pattern ;)

You're right, if we make things up it paints a rosy picture. Making things up can be fun sometimes.

If we check the data and see the %-per-day went from 2.78%-per-day to 1.74%-per-day down to 1.69%-per-day you might conclude that there are fewer people upgrading/buying Phoenix. Looking at the data is painful sometimes, but can teach us things and help us make decisions better than making things up.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:48 PM

Say what you want, on the 16th the .jpg was at 45%, today it's now at 60%, that's not too shabby considering their goal numbers are probably pretty high.

No doubt we'll reach the the Phase 2 goal, its Phase 3 that's always been in question.

Edited by Monsoon, 25 August 2013 - 01:50 PM.


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Posted 25 August 2013 - 01:54 PM

View PostMonsoon, on 25 August 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Say what you want, on the 16th the .jpg was at 45%, today it's now at 60%, that's not too shabby considering their goal numbers are probably pretty high.

No doubt we'll reach the the Phase 2 goal, its Phase 3 that's always been in question.

What are those goal numbers? Oh that's right conveniently absent, so they can do what they like. Kind of like player number, where's the counter? ;)

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 02:09 PM

View PostMonsoon, on 25 August 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

Say what you want, on the 16th the .jpg was at 45%, today it's now at 60%, that's not too shabby considering their goal numbers are probably pretty high.

No doubt we'll reach the the Phase 2 goal, its Phase 3 that's always been in question.



Interestingly at that rate of roughly 1.6% per day it's *exactly* what is needed to get to the end of the bar by the official launch day...

That has to be a coincidence.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 02:34 PM

View PostTolkien, on 25 August 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:



Interestingly at that rate of roughly 1.6% per day it's *exactly* what is needed to get to the end of the bar by the official launch day...

That has to be a coincidence.


Ah yes another conspiracy, how convenient.

View PostRG Notch, on 25 August 2013 - 01:54 PM, said:

What are those goal numbers? Oh that's right conveniently absent, so they can do what they like. Kind of like player number, where's the counter? ;)


I don't know, maybe they're none of your business? Seriously the entitlement that people have nowadays is amazing. Maybe when you're running a company you can be so free with all the information that people demand from you... :lol:

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 04:14 PM

View PostNamesAreStupid, on 25 August 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

No.

Enlightened response.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 06:07 PM

Brevity, wit, soul thereof etc.

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Posted 25 August 2013 - 09:41 PM

View PostCountry Gravy, on 25 August 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Enlightened response.

There is a line between too much grind and not enough grind. PGI doesn't know that line, which is not surprising. Even with the previous earnings it would take you many months (I think someone calculated it was at least 6) to buy all the mechs, by which time there would be another 6 chassis.

View PostTolkien, on 25 August 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:


I'm also pretty sure it's a marketing promotion and they have already decided to give people who buy in all of those things.

The graph will tick up towards launch day and will get all the way to the end.

It's a type of psychological reinforcement to make you feel good about the purchase that so many others are doing it, and helps reinforce the buying behaviour.

Or you know their quota is 2 PP packs for level 1, 3 for level 2 and 4 for level 3.





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