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#541 Slopey

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:11 PM

3PV in 1PV queue?

3PV on by default?


I want a refund on my Pheonix Overlord right now, and I'll never play this game ever again.

This is ********.

#542 BFett

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:12 PM

View PostVasces Diablo, on 20 August 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

Okay, so the than the first person shot is not coming from Cat we see in the 3rd person shot, you moved your mech up against a building and took a screenshot (that is supposed to be from the cats perspective, apparently) to show we can't see a mech that is no longer there?

Don't over think it. Both shots are from the Centurions point of view. The Centurion has not moved or torso twisted in either picture. The purpose of the screenshots are to show that if you are looking one way in First Person View you can not see the enemy mech. But if you are in Third Person View you can see the mech even though you don't have to move or torso twist.

#543 Arc Viper

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:12 PM

The only thing I don't like about this patch is that they haven't fixed C-Bills! Longer games, lower rewards. Not only that, they lowered them even more for losers in conquest. Why?

#544 TOGSolid

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:13 PM

Why in Kerensky's name did they buff the UAC/5? That thing was fine! People used it, they liked it, and no one complained about it being too good. This is the most arbitrary crap ever. D:

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:13 PM

Can someone tell me how the 'silent majority' has been communicating their love for 3pv to PGI? Obviously not on the forums where the apparently smaller yet vocal minority of testers were against it, just curious.

'Hardcore' mode obviously caters (assuming it actually gets implemented as an option) to a core group or niche group of players. It's not being implemented as the main or default view. There's a good chance that the wants of a group that fits a niche category will take a back seat to whatever the majority wants in order to increase profits. I hope MWO doesn't make a gradual shift to Mech Assault Online but I won't hold my breath.

I really do hope fpv remains an option in the future but if the dollars aren't there to drive it will the effort to maintain it be worthwhile to the developers?

Otherwise, happy to see the attention given to Mediums, LBX, UAC, Streaks and Terra Therma. Thought I'd try to end on a positive note. : )

Edited by Talys, 20 August 2013 - 12:26 PM.


#546 ManDaisy

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:14 PM

Well wont be that hard to boycott for a week, considering nothing is really keeping me playing , and its been that way... for a long time.

To be honest the most active day for me is patch day, then thats it.

#547 Mordynak

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:15 PM

View PostBFett, on 20 August 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

November 2012 Russ leaks that 3rd person is in works http://mwomercs.com/...64#entry1437264. January 2013 poll made after first is deleted by devs http://mwomercs.com/...s-poll-revived/

If any of you took the above poll please boycott the game until the next patch. Let's take a stand!

Get a ******* grip you *****.

We are beta testers. Yes we pay for the game, but later on we will have 1st person only mode too.

They probably want us all to play in mixed mode to see how many people use it. That is all, stop your damn crying.

#548 Silent

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:16 PM

Third person? More like **** person.

*tips hat*

#549 Trev Firestorm

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:16 PM

View PostVasces Diablo, on 20 August 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

Okay, so the than the first person shot is not coming from Cat we see in the 3rd person shot, you moved your mech up against a building and took a screenshot (that is supposed to be from the cats perspective, apparently) to show we can't see a mech that is no longer there?

You seem a bit dense, that was obviously never the point, its what he can see from 1pv vs what he can see from 3pv...

#550 JohnnyWayne

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:16 PM

View PostTalys, on 20 August 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

Can someone tell me how the 'silent majority' has been communicating their love for 3pv to PGI?


They are reading their minds, therefore:

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Let the shitstorm rise to unkown levels!

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 20 August 2013 - 12:16 PM.


#551 Ngamok

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:16 PM

View PostGaslight, on 20 August 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:


So did the Cylons.


TBH, I liked the Cylons plan better. The Matrix too.

#552 Zylo

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:17 PM

Really... 3rd person view? This makes me glad I gave money to Star Citizen instead. I hope those who bought Project Phoenix and don't want 3rd person view are able to get refunds.

#553 JohnnyWayne

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:18 PM

View PostNgamok, on 20 August 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:


TBH, I liked the Cylons plan better. The Matrix too.


The Cylons never had a plan...

#554 Ngamok

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:20 PM

View PostZolaz, on 20 August 2013 - 10:02 AM, said:


I dont agree that PPCs need to be nerfed. Keep my name out of it.


You show me how PPCs are nerfed and I will point you to what they were like in Closed Beta. Seems to me, they are still better than what they used to be like. All I see are adjustments.

View PostRetsehc, on 20 August 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Suggestion: In your next patch release notes, please provide us the estimated expected downtime of the server. Be reasonable and not say "as long as it takes". This will allow those us that have limited time to play the ability to schedule around it.


Sorry that your life revolves around a game.

#555 TOGSolid

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:21 PM

View PostMordynak, on 20 August 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

Get a ******* grip you *****.

We are beta testers. Yes we pay for the game, but later on we will have 1st person only mode too.

They probably want us all to play in mixed mode to see how many people use it. That is all, stop your damn crying.

Then they need to communicate that.

99% of the problems around here are due to a total lack of communication and a lack of awareness on our end of just what the **** is going on with the game.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:21 PM

Instead of bitching about 3pv vs 1pv, here's some actual feedback:

camera POV on the cplt (specifically, k2, don't have the others anymore) is horrible, compared to the jenner, at least. zoom makes this even worse. (BTW, feel like zoom should be restricted / unavailable in 3pv, but that's another balance thing)

on a completely unrelated note, once someone is targeted for a few seconds, it'd be nice if their mech type was 'added' to the scoreboard, making that last 'what mech was he in?' towards the end of the game less annoying.

furthermore, the reticle shake seems horribly messed up. for instance, there's left/right arm/torso play on both the jenner and catapult...when the arms don't twist separately from the torso. there's also some sort of 'snap' effect up and down, especially when hovering over other mechs.

the UAC-5 change was also pretty huge. may very well change the current gauss/ac20 meta. probably my favorite change of the patch.

Edited by justjay, 20 August 2013 - 12:36 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:24 PM

View PostAppogee, on 20 August 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

I've never been one of the PGI-bashing crowd.

However, the sudden decommitment to putting 3PV and 1PV players in the same games has really shocked me.

And not a word of explanation for this important change of policy has been offered. It's just blithely mentioned in the patch notes, and that's that.

PGI, in the unlikely event that you're reading this... this has fundamentally changed my perception of your professionalism and credibility. I honestly don't feel I can trust what you say any more.

You have to remember, a lot of the #saveMWO crowd has been playing since the early closed beta days, and we've seen this tragic tale unfolding with greater clarity. Make no mistake, this game was pretty ******* excellent and constantly improving for a very long time in all aspects. Everything from the website, to the patching process, to the mechbay, to the art, to the gameplay, to the sounds, seemed to be improving steadily. We were happy.

Then things changed and it's been going downhill and we're very upset, because we had such a nice taste of great MechWarrior gameplay by an apparently savvy and dedicated development team. We don't want to see the game fail, we want to see the game get back on track how it once was.

#558 Vorpralmar

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:25 PM

seriously guys 3pv is showing us you dont give 2 ***** about your community which would be us gamers paying you to **** up our game. When MWO started its secondary founding principal was that there would be NO 3pv and now you guys have sold out to fagoty *** gamers who dont know mechwarrior and refuse to give it the time it takes to learn whjich means were going to have more pugs that are so ******* stupid theyer team is teamkillling them out of frustration AND NOW YOU GIVE THE IDIOTS 3PV that alows them to hide behind walls and lock targets behind them without giveing themselves up so the 10 lrm boats in the back (ALSO USUALLY ******** PUGS) to rain death without retaliation and without theyer atlas class scouts hideing behind buildings looking over them with that ******** *** probe. At this point ive probaly put 400 bucks into this game to see you ******* ******* embarass all of us oldschool mechjocks with this **** so please get rid of the ******* 3pv and focus on game modes, mech fixes and mechs you know those things your gameing comunity is begging you for. please stop being ******** or you will be left with only the ******** 13 y/os who refuse to put money in your game.

please have a nice day and stop trying to kill your game

Edited by Vorpralmar, 20 August 2013 - 12:26 PM.


#559 Ngamok

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:25 PM

View PostNeekoli, on 20 August 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

read the notes....its very restricted. i just wanna see my mechs strut


I'll be using 3PV at the beginning of a match to take a screen shot of my mech. You can check them all out here:

http://steamcommunit...81/screenshots/

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:26 PM

View PostSlopey, on 20 August 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

3PV in 1PV queue?

3PV on by default?


I want a refund on my Pheonix Overlord right now, and I'll never play this game ever again.

This is ********.

That is why I didn't buy the Phoenix package.

I hate to say "I told you so", but....

Those of you who stick with the game, good luck. PGI has proven that their word is not worth the bandwidth you read it on.





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