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[Dawnstealer]

The 3PV is way less overpowered than you guys are thinking: it's barely useful.

One thing I don't like is that 1) your weapon groups are all reset and 2) this patch is REAL unstable. Had four crashes in ten games after zero in the last three months.

Edited by Dawnstealer, 20 August 2013 - 08:53 PM.

[Joachim Viltry]

Dawnstealer, on 20 August 2013 - 08:52 PM, said:

The 3PV is way less overpowered than you guys are thinking: it's barely useful.

it isnt about op-ness. its about the constant pattern of lies, misdirection, and abuse. coupled with the fact that it is only selectively useful, to people who have a clue as to how to abuse it.

so the competitive guys don't like it because it offers a fast recon advantage to teams that use it selectively.

newbies wont like it because it's useless for what they pitched it as, since you cant see your legs very well to determine orientation.

and I don't like it because it's a sign of just how mismanaged this game has been from day 1.

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[Zephyr Charge]

Frost Lord, on 20 August 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

is there a pole that has started on this since the patch? would like to see how many people actually like it

They dont care about polls. There was a poll about how the people dont want this at all that was like 5000 to one against, and they sait it wasnt representative of the community.

[Xenroth]

Zephyr Charge, on 20 August 2013 - 08:42 PM, said:

Oh noez I dont like the kool aid as much as you

So if you start to interpret what the other thinks, likes or uses, then i think you have no idea at all, you hate 3pv because you dont know how to use it and only spread troll and hate.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Zephyr Charge, on 20 August 2013 - 09:02 PM, said:

They dont care about polls. There was a poll about how the people dont want this at all that was like 5000 to one against, and they sait it wasnt representative of the community.

I'm starting to think the island they are referring to is more like a large continent (think Australia) and the mainland PGI is on... is nothing more than a sand berm in the middle of the ocean.


By all means, I and 95% of the mechwarrior community are comfortable on this island continent. I see a shitstorm brewing, be a shame if that small sand dune PGI is on gets washed away...

[Zephyr Charge]

Man tho; theyre gonna get slaughtered on metacritic lol

[TheSteelRhino]

This is hillarious. All the ppl complaining about how unfair 3pv is..and then all ppl trying 3pv saying how bad it is.

Basically it's useful to maybe see what you are stuck on, or to check out your paint scheme. I mean if you REALLY want to play that way you can...with arm lock, partial HUD...

Yeah...it's really OP...

How about your try it before you complain about it. Honestly, it would appear they did a good job limiting the functionality of it.
Maybe there are some advantages. But there are disadvantages too.

Seems balanced.

[Zephyr Charge]

Rhinehardt Ritter, on 20 August 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

This is hillarious. All the ppl complaining about how unfair 3pv is..and then all ppl trying 3pv saying how bad it is. Basically it's useful to maybe see what you are stuck on, or to check out your paint scheme. I mean if you REALLY want to play that way you can...with arm lock, partial HUD... Yeah...it's really OP... How about your try it before you complain about it. Honestly, it would appear they did a good job limiting the functionality of it. Maybe there are some advantages. But there are disadvantages too. Seems balanced.

also; its so helpful to see where your legs are pointed... when you cant see your legs

[TheSteelRhino]

Zephyr Charge, on 20 August 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

also; its so helpful to see where your legs are pointed... when you cant see your legs

HA...exactly..it's not all that great. ECM is way more OP than this could ever be, and in fact..I look forward to the cheeseball running ECM and 3pv trying to be all covert, and eating a ton of dumb fired LRMS, gauss/ppc, etc because he's got a red strobe floating over him.

[Mystere]

Zynk, on 20 August 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

So everyone plays third person whether they want it or NOT.

You don't have to play in 3PV mode. But, there is no assurance that no one is playing 3PV in the same match. That is all.

[IceCase88]

You can use 3rd person view to scout and see mechs behind buildings/walls/hills. With the F4 function it is easy to switch back to 1st person view and engage. It is really ridiculous and needs to go away. Or if you are hiding behind a hill and cannot see the enemy just pop into 3rd person view, see the enemy, and engage or run. Not to mention the fact, very few people asked for it and they said last year they were not going to do it. How is it going to attract new players? The appeal is piloting big robots and blowing stuff up. If that is not appealing then 3rd person view isn't going to make it more appealing. It is just dumb and makes no sense for them to do it.

[Grimmnyr]

Well, I guess I can live with people using 3PV in it's current form. True, it was a kick in the junk from PGI, but I am hoping they will give us the Orion soon and that they will hit it out of the part with CW.

[GetinmyBellah]

Someone brought up a good point; cheating, but not the kind they were thinking of. If you use w/e search engine you're fond of you'll see there are working cheats for this game, but I haven't been headshot several times out of say 10 matches in quite awhile. I'm now wondering how much this will let them come up with new and more deadly cheats, thought I know that's NOT what PGI intended. I'm just wondering if we're going to see a lot more. I certainly hope not!! I have invested a lot of money into this game.

[TheSteelRhino]

IceCase88, on 20 August 2013 - 09:35 PM, said:

You can use 3rd person view to scout and see mechs behind buildings/walls/hills. With the F4 function it is easy to switch back to 1st person view and engage. It is really ridiculous and needs to go away. Or if you are hiding behind a hill and cannot see the enemy just pop into 3rd person view, see the enemy, and engage or run. Not to mention the fact, very few people asked for it and they said last year they were not going to do it. How is it going to attract new players? The appeal is piloting big robots and blowing stuff up. If that is not appealing then 3rd person view isn't going to make it more appealing. It is just dumb and makes no sense for them to do it.

Are u kidding. So there is nothing like this in the game already? Uhm. Like. Seismic? And that doesnt have a blinky red camera above your mech

Please...this is not call of duty or anything. And you can barely use it to peak over hills. Seismic and ecm are way more powerful than this. Have u even tried it? I did, just to see what all the qq was about.

Pretty much acceptable in its current form. From someone who play 1st person. As u stated this is big stompy robots. Cameras are that high tech and we have uavs already.

Edited by Rhinehardt Ritter, 20 August 2013 - 10:00 PM.

[Frost Lord]

Rhinehardt Ritter, on 20 August 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Are u kidding. So there is nothing like this in the game already? Uhm. Like. Seismic? And that doesnt have a blinky red camera above your mech

Please...this is not call of duty or anything. And you can barely use it to peak over hills. Seismic and ecm are way more powerful than this. Have u even tried it? I did, just to see what all the qq was about.

Pretty much acceptable in its current form. From someone who play 1st person. As u stated this is big stompy robots. Cameras are that high tech and we have uavs already.

if this was a module and it had limited uses then that would be fine

[Appogee]

The one good thing about it is that at least it's done as a drone, which is less immersion breaking.

I'm still very disappointed though that PGI broke its word about the separate queues, and also, that they weren't upfront about their change of plans.

[Deathlike]

Appogee, on 20 August 2013 - 10:38 PM, said:

The one good thing about it is that at least it's done as a drone, which is less immersion breaking.

I'm still very disappointed though that PGI broke its word about the separate queues, and also, that they weren't upfront about their change of plans.

The policy has almost always been.. we'll let you know AFTER it is completed to our liking.

Then again, we have the Kintaro.

[Deathsiege]

45 pages of ,"Whaaa!"

[Chronojam]

Wales Grey, on 20 August 2013 - 06:46 PM, said:

AC/2 heat bug band-aid is still disgusting.

edit: and the AC/2 is still effected by #ghostheat #magnumopus if you have the fast fire mastery!

I saw videos of this, and got really confused at first. How can it be that you're still punished for unlocking skills? The lack of foresight is astounding here.

[Paul McGovern]

I can not understand the words forming in my brain to describe.