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[Gwaihir]

Deathsiege, on 20 August 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

45 pages of ,"Whaaa!"

lol

[Sharp Spikes]

mint frog, on 20 August 2013 - 05:04 PM, said:

So, 3PV is good and works as intended because everyone who knows where to find the game options turn it off? Impressive, most impressive.
Of course, resources spent on 3PV couldn't have been used for anything else, 'cause, you know, everything is fine and only 3PV was missing.

[MechFrog1]

Sharp Spikes, on 20 August 2013 - 11:14 PM, said:

So, 3PV is good and works as intended because everyone who knows where to find the game options turn it off? Impressive, most impressive.
Of course, resources spent on 3PV couldn't have been used for anything else, 'cause, you know, everything is fine and only 3PV was missing.

If people don't use it, we need to make it better! Add the minimap! take arm lock off!

[Chronojam]

Rhinehardt Ritter, on 20 August 2013 - 09:32 PM, said:

HA...exactly..it's not all that great. ECM is way more OP than this could ever be, and in fact..I look forward to the cheeseball running ECM and 3pv trying to be all covert, and eating a ton of dumb fired LRMS, gauss/ppc, etc because he's got a red strobe floating over him.

How disingenuous. You realize that ECM takes up criticals, weight, and is only applicable to very select chassis, right? There are no heavy mechs that can use ECM, but they can all now look past buildings just fine. Great! Just what the jumpsnipers needed, the ability to pick their targets in a calm fashion instead of admittedly having only a short time to find the target during their ascent. I'm glad to see jumpsniping get another buff. I'm sure everybody still regularly playing had started to miss it.

[Shiro Matsumoto]

Yeah, tried 3pv today.
You send the drone of shame out, it spies for you, you pull it back, and fight from your seat. Ok. I guess i can live with that.
Still, it makes Ambushing a problem, get shot from behind - pop the drone - see where the ray come from.
Go spotter, pop drone, peek over hill... well, nothing modern military cant do. At least its not a lying spirit but a camera drone.

BUT: The loss of trust to the Devs, who obviousy lied to us.. that really irks me. They lied here. maybe they lied about UI2.0.. about CW. I simply feel, that my trust to the devs reached a new low, that i have to very critically check everything the Devs say, cause i really dont like to be lied to.

I dont know yet, what i do, but possible reactions go from not playing a while, to actively asking a refund for my Phoenix-preorder. I guess the Devs have to work to get back the community trust they gambled away.

[WWWWWWWWWWWWW]

John McFianna, on 20 August 2013 - 11:46 PM, said:

Yeah, tried 3pv today.
You send the drone of shame out, it spies for you, you pull it back, and fight from your seat. Ok. I guess i can live with that.
Still, it makes Ambushing a problem, get shot from behind - pop the drone - see where the ray come from.
Go spotter, pop drone, peek over hill... well, nothing modern military cant do. At least its not a lying spirit but a camera drone.

BUT: The loss of trust to the Devs, who obviousy lied to us.. that really irks me. They lied here. maybe they lied about UI2.0.. about CW. I simply feel, that my trust to the devs reached a new low, that i have to very critically check everything the Devs say, cause i really dont like to be lied to.

I dont know yet, what i do, but possible reactions go from not playing a while, to actively asking a refund for my Phoenix-preorder. I guess the Devs have to work to get back the community trust they gambled away.

If you think PGI will magically become more open to criticism and roll back all these dumb decisions they've been defending to the last drop of peasant blood, then keep your phoenix preorder.
If you think things are going downhill fast with no signs of slowing down request a refund. They'll give you one even if the premium time is used.

[Roland]

I'm not even going to bother complaining about how pgi clearly has gone back on their previous statements about how we would never have to play in games with third person view. I'm not even going to bother seeing if they have tried to retroactively remove those posts from the forum.

Pgi does not care what I think our want out of this game.

Message received. I no longer care.

[Icedman]

Rhinehardt Ritter, on 20 August 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

This is hillarious. All the ppl complaining about how unfair 3pv is..and then all ppl trying 3pv saying how bad it is.

Basically it's useful to maybe see what you are stuck on, or to check out your paint scheme. I mean if you REALLY want to play that way you can...with arm lock, partial HUD...

Yeah...it's really OP...

How about your try it before you complain about it. Honestly, it would appear they did a good job limiting the functionality of it.
Maybe there are some advantages. But there are disadvantages too.

Seems balanced.

Yup, it's balanced. For people playing only in 3rd person. The problem is any player who knows how to hit f4 can get the best of both worlds. 3rd person for some scouting / peaking / screenshot taking and 1st person for actual fighting, since selecting one doesn't lock you out of the other like it should to be "balanced".

Go grab a spider and play a map like Canyon Network, with a bunch of little rocks and tiers just bigger than the spider itself. Now toggle 3pv. Yes, there is a nice little drone behind your head... but seeing the drone doesn't give me a target lock and the spider can see everything. No new player is going to do this, and even experienced players may choose not to but it's there and it's an advantage. Free information with no risk.

Beyond that, one of the other reasons people hate the way it was put in has a bit to do with this little gem:


This never should have been said if they weren't going to release both hardcore and 3pv at the same time.

[Miken]

Machineguns nerf disappointed me

[Kitane]

The worst thing about this debacle isn't that they were lying or that there aren't separate queues, but that the feature completely backfired.

The game is much much more difficult to play in 3rd person view than in cockpit view.

Their solution to make 3rd person view less appealing made it unusable for anything BUT peeking over obstacles.

They cannot afford to leave this enabled by default for new players, this will drive away any new player wildly screaming how unbelievably bad are controls in this "unfinished trainwreck".

[Jay Z]

I love you PGI, great patch. My UAC5 K2 and Streak Stalker hug you.

[Sruba4]

Well, machine gun nerf is ok, they went op.
UAC 5 - not sure if it was needed.
3PV - well it's op, not may people will use it in fight, but with just hiting f4 you will see everything scuts were used earlier, now who needs them when u can just advance in big mech looking around what's behind obstacles, no supprise pew pew no traps etc. And I just want to know how they will separate official tournaments/events. Will there be challenges for 3PV players and 1PV. Or they will be listed together ? Guess who will have advantage from peeking over.
Also lying is not apreciated in buisness PGI, go do your homework.

[CrashieJ]

Miken, on 21 August 2013 - 01:41 AM, said:

Machineguns nerf disappointed me

I'm actually glad they cut back the critrolls on the SUPPORT WEAPON, with the influx of Spoodermen running around its nice to know that they'll actually have to take the time to kill you

-but once this "HARDCORE MODE" rolls out I won't touch it and I will keep playing in my 1pv mechs in a 3pv world and rolling around in their tears.

It feels like for every spark of Brilliance PGI seems to get, their Brains shut off for the next 3 months...

... For every blunder PGI makes I will wave these games around to remind them that this game will be another repeat in the hall of mediocrity

Edited by gavilatius, 21 August 2013 - 02:00 AM.

[Revorn]

Newbs dropping in 3PV by default, without knowing how to change that. Rofl.


PGI you realy know how to Troll.

[POWR]

Icedman, on 21 August 2013 - 12:53 AM, said:

Yup, it's balanced. For people playing only in 3rd person. The problem is any player who knows how to hit f4 can get the best of both worlds. 3rd person for some scouting / peaking / screenshot taking and 1st person for actual fighting, since selecting one doesn't lock you out of the other like it should to be "balanced".

Go grab a spider and play a map like Canyon Network, with a bunch of little rocks and tiers just bigger than the spider itself. Now toggle 3pv. Yes, there is a nice little drone behind your head... but seeing the drone doesn't give me a target lock and the spider can see everything. No new player is going to do this, and even experienced players may choose not to but it's there and it's an advantage. Free information with no risk.

Beyond that, one of the other reasons people hate the way it was put in has a bit to do with this little gem:


This never should have been said if they weren't going to release both hardcore and 3pv at the same time.

In the launched game, of course. This is beta, where it's being tested. Suck it up.

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

Prezimonto, on 20 August 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

Might as well be telling me that magnet therapy works next.

It doesn'????

[Zeus X]

Russ, not only do you look like an ******* with these twitter posts, but you are making the entire PGI staff look bad too.


This only solidifies how much you to don't give a rats a$$ about the community.

[SmallandBlue]

Quax1102, on 21 August 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:

It doesn'????

It does but you can only use a maximum of 2 magnets at a time. It's called the Ghost Magnet phenomenon.

[LONGINUS]

A PROMISE MEANS EVERYTHING, BUT ONCE IT'S BROKEN SORRY MEANS NOTHING!

So true in this situation....

Edited by LONGINUS, 21 August 2013 - 02:27 AM.

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

POWR, on 21 August 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:

In the launched game, of course. This is beta, where it's being tested. Suck it up.

Where exactly do they state that difference? Quote appreciated, or ****.