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[InnerSphereNews]

So you've got your new Kintaro, and you're finishing eliting and mastering all their skill trees. Something is... missing though. Oh, camo! So we figured we'd help you out by offering 50% off the cost of Vagabond, Digital, and Fractal camo's for the Kintaro!

We hope you enjoy everyone, and we'll see you on the battlefield!

WHAT:

• 50% off Matching Patterns for Kintaro: Vagabond, Digital and Fractal, Now 375 , Regular 750

WHEN:

Tuesday August 20th 10am PDT

to

Friday August 23rd 10 AM PDT

[Deathlike]

At least people knew this was coming...

Too bad I'm skipping grinding Kintaros, outside of coring them w/o much effort.

Edited by Deathlike, 20 August 2013 - 08:41 AM.

[Doctor Proctor]

Deathlike, on 20 August 2013 - 08:40 AM, said:

At least people knew this was coming...

Too bad I'm skipping grinding Kintaros, outside of coring them w/o much effort.

There's a fix already slated for a patch in September. So you might just have to learn how to shoot those side torsos.

[wickwire]

Nice sale, too bad the CT hitbox will only be fixed in 2 weeks

[Team Leader]

Nobody wants to grind them because with the chill nerf the grind is far too... Grindy. And unfun. Fix that, then try selling overpriced camos (I still think they should be class wide unlocks...)

[Risko Vinsheen]

I'm sad they didn't put Tiger as one of the camos in this sale... I really wanted my Mortal Kombat homage Kintaro.

[Koniving]

For those whining about the cbill "nerf" (actually I'm profiting big time from it with a minor change in play).

Spoiler

Koniving, on 20 August 2013 - 07:12 AM, said:

Oh it's a bit far from fine. But... The new system rewards teamwork more and solo play less. If you help your team you actually won't even notice a difference in income. Since we at Zhizhu usually help our team, we simply haven't. In fact some of us have noticed superior returns.

In example: Some bonuses which were one time pay buffs actually reward you over and over again at certain intervals. For instance a spot bonus now rewards me from the same LRM guy, against an identical target, every 3 to 5 seconds. Spot assist + tag/narc. Spot assist + tag/narc. I keep getting paid for helping my team. That's good, it promotes teamwork and pays a scout for being a scout.

That isn't to say it's fine all around: one of our players, who plays quite selfishly, has noticed a 50,000 (Edit: missing word: "average") decrease in his earnings. He's the sort that steals all of our kills that we worked so hard on, who stat pads himself like crazy making every match harder on us, and has a 5.something kdr while the rest of us are around 0.5 to 2.0 kdrs.

To me, that's an acceptable change. The current cbill earnings from what we've seen punishes the lack of teamwork exhibited by selfish players, and is rewarding players that actively go out of their way to help teammates. Add to that we are supposed to be getting more rewards for lights and mediums who perform their roles (spotting, combat support, savior kills, defensive kills, following orders given by team commanders, etc. are all supposed to reward you for teamwork).

Genuinely give helping your team a try. I made 210,000 cbills last night without premium (I'm refusing to buy it until we get our heat capacity reduced for the betterment of the game and to stop this alpha warrior b.s.) and I was using a Blackjack with a tag and 7 small pulse lasers.

Edit: Word was missing.
Edit 2: Defined "Superior returns."

There are other things you can do to improve your income as well. Kill by headshot or legging. If the engine is intact everyone makes more on the salvage. The fewer parts you strip, the higher the salvage income. As a medium, hang around an assault and shoot what they shoot. You'll notice some interesting cash bonuses. All in all, don't be so selfish and help those around you. My earnings have been improving and of the three people I played with last night, 2 of them also noticed increased earnings and 1 of them...was miserable with his pay because he was selfish the whole way through.

Edit: That said, the amount you get for losing is awful and this patch just made that worse. Thankfully I don't lose all that often.

For the Kintaro, I'm looking forward to seeing how they look. Fractal's always been my favorite. But, what do you mean by "Matching" patterns? o.O; I'll probably snag some patterns. If all the patterns for the Kintaro were on sale, it'd definitely become a top priority to snag 'em quick. Ah well.

For now though my Kintaros will remain LRM boats; the CT to ST size ratio does mean it's too dangerous to play the role of a brawler.

Edited by Koniving, 20 August 2013 - 10:24 AM.

[Deathlike]

Koniving, on 20 August 2013 - 10:22 AM, said:

For those whining about the cbill "nerf" (actually I'm profiting big time from it with a minor change in play).

I disagree. It feeds too much into "tourney mode" and having played in enough tournies, this is a bad behavior and really undesirable.

[Koniving]

Deathlike, on 20 August 2013 - 10:57 AM, said:

I disagree. It feeds too much into "tourney mode" and having played in enough tournies, this is a bad behavior and really undesirable.

Tourney? When you get more rewards for team-based play and aren't making dirt from playing solo? I think I'm failing to understand.

[PoLaR]

Everyone seems to think the Kintaro has hit detection issues. Well It doesn't, only the Golden Boy has a sissy Center Torso.

[Deathlike]

Doctor Proctor, on 20 August 2013 - 08:55 AM, said:

There's a fix already slated for a patch in September. So you might just have to learn how to shoot those side torsos.

It's not worth it. A lot of large CT based mechs that have been released for a bit (Blackjack, Quickdraw to name a few) are very XL friendly.

So even if they shrink the CT in the Kintaro, the mech is larger than a Jager... and a Jager isn't even that hard to core and side core.

Koniving, on 20 August 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

Tourney? When you get more rewards for team-based play and aren't making dirt from playing solo? I think I'm failing to understand.

I play primarily team based play.. and making too much, but most of that style unfortunately prefers tourney-style based play... where collecting assists to increase the score is effectively the same as collecting C-bills. With 12v12, there is much less control as to whether the team wins or loses from my efforts. If I deal obscene damage with a Hunchback and still lose, I'm generally ill-rewarded because my teammates dictate how much I would actually get. Considering how many games are lopsided (wins and losses are like 75% to me lopsided, with the close games being on the 25% average - all guessing and not scientific), it changes the gap drastically on my winnings and losses.

Just because "it appears" to support team play doesn't necessarily actually do what it is meant to do.

[Koniving]

I'll give you that much.