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#1101 FlipOver

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:39 AM

View Postrepete, on 21 August 2013 - 02:20 AM, said:


3PV is NOT about helping new players. This is a canard.


As I remember, the base idea for 3PV was about helping new players to move about and not quit the game after some minutes of frustrating scenery banging, hence the solution presented.

#1102 Zeus X

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:39 AM

View Postpantherzero, on 21 August 2013 - 02:37 AM, said:




Now that you posted this, the mods are going to delete it, to remove all evidence of any PGI employee saying anything about 3PV.

#1103 Ransack

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:41 AM

So, upon waking this morning, I had an epiphany. This is the enhancing of the new user experience that they have been talking about so long.

They are doing questionable things that they know will drive a sizable chunk of veterans away so that the new launch day users have less to complain about.

It's the only thing that makes sense.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:51 AM

Putting time, energy, money, and resources into this was a complete waste of time. This was not needed guys.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:52 AM

Wow.... Wow......... No lube, no wine, no dinner.
Pgi you broke my heart, I will never love again.
So what else have you been lieing about? Cw? UI 2.0?

#1106 repete

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:52 AM

View Postflipover, on 21 August 2013 - 02:39 AM, said:


As I remember, the base idea for 3PV was about helping new players to move about and not quit the game after some minutes of frustrating scenery banging, hence the solution presented.


They can't see their legs in "the solution presented". The Asian market (Potentially the largest/most lucrative) prefers 3PV. Apply Occam's Razor.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:54 AM

Quote

Me in Closed Beta when this came up the First Time (Pulled from the thread linked above): Right, because this makes so much more sense then adding a useful tutorial... Or making a trial mech que.... Or adding a low rez 3D graphic that represents your Mech and shows leg direction/torso direction (that can be toggled on/off if needed).


All of the above are still better options.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:54 AM

View PostRansack, on 21 August 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:

So, upon waking this morning, I had an epiphany. This is the enhancing of the new user experience that they have been talking about so long.

They are doing questionable things that they know will drive a sizable chunk of veterans away so that the new launch day users have less to complain about.

It's the only thing that makes sense.



That's why I'm going to continue to play, but no longer pay.

#1109 pantherzero

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:59 AM

playing with out paying still supports the game/ gives game content to those that pay.
as such you support the decision for third person view if you pay or not.
=] /2c

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:01 AM

Just added my name to the long list of people who will never give PGI more money. I understand balance issues but there were far - far - more important things to get right. My Overlord package is cancelled. I'll still play the odd game here and then but you will never get another cent from me.

#1111 Alex Gorsky

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:03 AM

View PostSnuglninja, on 21 August 2013 - 02:52 AM, said:

Wow.... Wow......... No lube, no wine, no dinner.
Pgi you broke my heart, I will never love again.
So what else have you been lieing about? Cw? UI 2.0?

About all. Cw, collision, ui2.0, clans, timeline, lobby....
They don't want to work, just want take money for colors and hero mech.

Edited by Alex Gorsky, 21 August 2013 - 03:06 AM.


#1112 repete

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:04 AM

View PostDexion, on 21 August 2013 - 02:54 AM, said:


All of the above are still better options.


It is not about helping the new player. If it was this would have been addressed quickly and easily in training/tutorial.

View PostNARCoMAN, on 21 August 2013 - 02:54 AM, said:


That's why I'm going to continue to play, but no longer pay.


You continue to help PGI by providing content in the form of a player. Up to you at the end of the day.

#1113 MonkeyCheese

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:05 AM

View PostNARCoMAN, on 21 August 2013 - 02:54 AM, said:

That's why I'm going to continue to play, but no longer pay.


I prefer the option of not playing and not paying again until true first person only mode is returned.

Oh and as for this player base being split too far thing if they separate the queues? It wont be split up, everyone will be playing first person only mode while the 3pv purists and brand new people will be in ghost town 3pv mode. The forum polls and responses already prove that.

SO yeah no playing and no paying until 1pv only mode is back.

#1114 Wired

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:09 AM

So anyone got the time at the PGI offices?

#1115 Winterdyne

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:10 AM

This does smell very much like the NGE did for SWG.

Not wise, PGI. Not wise at all.

#1116 Wired

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:13 AM

View PostWinterdyne, on 21 August 2013 - 03:10 AM, said:

This does smell very much like the NGE did for SWG.

Not wise, PGI. Not wise at all.



Ah memories.

#1117 skamage

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:16 AM

Later PGI. I was hoping to come back and start giving you money again but looks like you are still up to your shenanigans of saying one thing and doing another. So sorry if that sounds like I'm telling you are lying. And you might want to thank the unprofessionalism of your Community Manager Garth since any differing opinion is obviously wrong and you are overreacting if you don't like a feature and express it here or anywhere else. Next time you guys might want to put your dogs on a leash or hire better people who can receive criticism so you don't drive away customers.

#1118 Carl Wrede

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:16 AM

Sadly this is starting to look like the NGE (New Game Experience) update that killed off Star Wars Galaxies...

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:17 AM

View Postrepete, on 21 August 2013 - 03:04 AM, said:

You continue to help PGI by providing content in the form of a player. Up to you at the end of the day.


I'm not sure if exposing new players to bitter vets is in PGI's interests.

#1120 Dexion

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 03:18 AM

You guys should check out the MWO Facebook page... Read the comments (and maybe leave one). Lets just say, turns out the forums are not the ONLY place people are expressing unhappiness with this situation.





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