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[Taron]

3th Person? Not worth to play longer than 30 seconds.

Never bevor seen a than long announced Patch which is that useless.

It will make all newbies simple targets...

[PyckenZot]

While I am still not a fan of 3PV being implemented, I must admit the implementation is not too bad. 1PV is still the superior mode to play in and I just love how people give away their location with their blinking red drones,...

That being said, please make it a consumable destroyable object.

ps. I currently use it to check my missile doors (as my leds are broken). ^^

[Rhalgaln]

I hate 3rd person.

Hardcore mode is not possible. please fix that.

[Vectoron The Black Minister]

Syrkres, on 20 August 2013 - 01:21 PM, said:

#1 Not going to tell you about 3rd player view other than I will never play it.

#2 You just lost me if not for good until such time it comes out.

#3 You just lost my phoenix account (the game was not as you described - separate queues).

Having spent over $300+ Phoenix Order you would think this was a very stupid mistake on your part, but I guess it was a mistake on mine.

Fool me once...

[Nicholas Carlyle]

To the people saying 3pv sucks to fight in.... we all know that.

People use it to scout then switch to 1pv to fight.

Turn off the damn toggle or give it a 30 second cool down. That would be a start until you turn on hardcore.

I really can't believe how ignorant PGI is at this point. Bryan, Russ and Paul are the just plain failures.

I'm almost sad I supported Sarah's mech. You didn't deserve the publicity from that. Should have just donated directly.

Frauds.

[PyckenZot]

Rhalgaln, on 20 August 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

I hate 3rd person.

Hardcore mode is not possible. please fix that.

Actually they should rename the modes. Noob mode for 3PV, Normal for,... well normal mode.

[Rippthrough]

Bryan, after all the complete ******s that your internal testing team has let through, you trusted them to find that 3PV was 'balanced' and offered no advantage so you postponed the 1PV only queues?
Is this part of the same guys who get mauled time after time when they try 12 mans?
The guys that let so many LRMageddons happen? The ones that tested an entire new map and didn't notice a spawn was bugged?

Seriously?

You really sat down and wrote that?

You need your head checked man, see a shrink.
Here's a fact (note, this isn't one of your Dev 'facts' that apparently change whenever there's not enough money rolling in):
THIRD PERSON VIEW IS A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE FOR RIDGE HUMPING SNIPERS.
THIRD PERSON VIEW IS A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE FOR FINDING AMBUSHERS IN THE CITY MAPS.
THIRD PERSON VIEW IS A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE FOR PEAKING AROUND CORNERS.

On the other hand, third person view is a massive disadvantage for anyone wanting to learn navigation, and where mechs are approaching from, because you disabled siesmic, the minimap, and made it harder for any new person to aim.
Congratulations.

Edited by Rippthrough, 20 August 2013 - 01:48 PM.

[Druidika]

First person queue will never come: http://mwomercs.com/...re-those-queues

[Armored Yokai]

i love the third person its actually balanced
the whiners here just like first person shooters

[Nekki Basara]

Well alright then. Thanks for actually addressing a concern. Not sure I agree with this implementation yet, but I'll get back to you on that.

[Araara]

"hey man, i heard of this nice game called mwo, its about military robots shooting each other! that sounds SICK!"

"yeah, the game's nice but the game company keeps lying to their customers and implementing stuff that they dont want and **** them off. At least, that's my opinion. It looks like they're just there to milk cash off their players. For one of them robot you can buy a game with it"

"oh...well, I,ll give it a try but i guess if they just **** off their players' opinion, i just won't buy stuff much"

PGI, you underestimate the power of word of mouth and the advantages/disadvantages of it. If you launch in september in this current form and with this lack of 1pv only queue which, once again, you did promise and NOT TOO LONG AGO TOO. Well, you're in a world of hurt for bad press.

[arghmace]

Taron, on 20 August 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

3th Person? Not worth to play longer than 30 seconds.

Never bevor seen a than long announced Patch which is that useless.

It will make all newbies simple targets...

This here is exactly the problem. Fighting in 3PV is impossible so newbies that use it all the time are gonna be stomped worse than before. On the other hand the good players are gonna use 3PV for a few seconds at a time to spy on enemies and then switch back to 1PV - making them even better and stomping noobs all the more efficient.

The worst thing still is the out right lies about not forcing us to play with 3PV cheaters.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Rippthrough, on 20 August 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Brain, after all the complete ******s that your internal testing team has let through, you trusted them to find that 3PV was 'balanced' and offered no advantage so you postponed the 1PV only queues?

Seriously?

You really sat down and wrote that?

You need your head checked man, see a shrink.

He's an actual compulsive liar. It would be interesting if it wasn't a game I cared about.

Edited by Nicholas Carlyle, 20 August 2013 - 01:34 PM.

[Mantiis]

My new theory since after all the concern about 3pv is that it was implemented not to make it easier for noobs but so that people will buy more skins and colors since now you can see them throughout the game if you want.

im sticking to that theory.

[Homeless Bill]

Druidika, on 20 August 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

First person queue will never come: http://mwomercs.com/...re-those-queues

****. There are no words to express my disappoint.

[Nicholas Carlyle]

Homeless Bill, on 20 August 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

****. There are no words to express my disappoint.

Are you really surprised? This is why I didn't purchase the Phoenix Package.

[Crazyeyes244]

Quote

After designing, developing, and testing the MWO’s 3PV, we quickly realised that 3PV offered no significant advantage over 1PV. In fact we found each mode had pros and cons that played well with each other. This revelation changed our initial 3PV plans and we postponed Hardcore mode (separate queues for 1PV and 3PV), in favor of rethinking the idea and offering up a different solution that also addressed a few more community wish list items.

Well, they managed to surprise me. Pulled the trigger on forcing the merged qeues before even introducing separate ones! They even sweetened the deal by hiding it behind saying the non-training (I refuse to label it Hardcore) mode is simply postponed.

Impressive move PGI. This was definitely the right message to send to your players. I feel we all have a much more solid understanding of the quality and integrity of the game's development. Good luck with sweeping this one under the rug.

[Duncan Longwood]

HAHAHAHA, welcome to the new normal. Split queues indefinitely postponed. The dev-blog about CW and design pillars should be moved to K-town.

The July I was told to look forward to never materialized and now August has been a straight let-down. If I plot these two points on a graph and extrapolate... what should I expect September to bring?

I came to the forum for patch day to see if they fixed the cbill nerf... yup, fixed conquest with more nerfs.

[General Taskeen]

Well bawls, I thought there would be two separate modes...

I didn't mind that 3PV was being added, but the point of having multiple user options is to separate them on servers.

The 3PV is bawls out worse than MW3 and 4, which should be rectified to be exactly like MW3/4 and then institute separate matches.

[Karr285]

Thanks Pgi for another Broken Promise,

I bet the real reason is you Couldn't get the split ques to work.
OR
You now know your player base is too small and would lead to long ques.

I guess its better to be called a Liar than Incompetent.

Edited by Karr285, 20 August 2013 - 01:43 PM.