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[JingleHell]

Tezcatli, on 27 August 2013 - 10:25 AM, said:

But all you did is dump on the game and the devs. How is that helping anyone? They're not going to suddenly be better because you called them out or stated the game is bad while offering very little in return. I've seen other people do the same. But they offer a lot of suggestions to improve the game.

Well, if we give PGI a wishlist, they'll just ignore it in favor of breaking stuff and assuming that people's desperate hopes for this game mean they don't suck.

I have better hopes writing a letter to Santa. So yeah, until it gets through certain thick skulls that the only reason anyone still plays this game at all is because people have loved this franchise longer than most of the devs have been alive, there's not much point in doing more than trying to make them understand exactly that.

[TB Freelancer]

I skimmed over your post but if this is the 'biggest' title of your adult life, your about a couple decades behind the curve....

...so I just smell another wannabe trying to be as 'cool' as the 100 mouthpieces that account for over half the posts on this site....

...they've been singing the same drivel for well over a decade and been consistently proven wrong by reality.....

....join another club....

....seriously.....

[PropagandaWar]

JingleHell, on 27 August 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Well, if we give PGI a wishlist, they'll just ignore it in favor of breaking stuff and assuming that people's desperate hopes for this game mean they don't suck.

I have better hopes writing a letter to Santa. So yeah, until it gets through certain thick skulls that the only reason anyone still plays this game at all is because people have loved this franchise longer than most of the devs have been alive, there's not much point in doing more than trying to make them understand exactly that.

Really. A wish list. How many people want this game made their way which is different from someone elses. As far as the franchise. While I know BT's history and all that fluff along with playing the game for almost 26 years I could care less about it when it comes down to gameplay. I like big stompy bots and Hawken sucks as far as that goes. Everyone gripes about every other iteration of Mechwarrior and all the faults they have. Now it transends into this game well. I'm not suprised there. I remember when MW3 came out. I remember the game kicked but. I also remember that I had zero input in that game or MW1,2 and 4. But here we with the opportunity to have at least a little input.

Edited by PropagandaWar, 27 August 2013 - 10:59 AM.

[IronChance]

BigBadHarv, on 27 August 2013 - 09:21 AM, said:

Haven't played this game in quite a while now
I love Battletech. books, mechwarrior games, tabletop, everything about the universe. I wanted this game to be what its supposed to be. Nearly all my posts here have been about the lackluster job and poor decisions PGI have made.
and with all the recent backlash, boy does it feel good to be right... in all the wrong ways

...

they are destroying what should be the greatest game of my adult life.

That's cute. You think you're an adult.

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIGGGHHHHH!!! This toy isn't exactly what I wanted for Christmas!

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIGGGHHHHH!!!

[Jesus Box]

I don't know about you, but I would have rather been wrong about this company and the direction of this game. Then we would have had a decent MW game here. Sadly; I was not, thus we do not. It's only being buried deeper and deeper every month with horrible unwanted changes like the heat scaling and 3PV. In less than 1 year they took a complete 180 from every original idea or plan behind the game and turned it into one big cash crop that caters to the lowest common denominator. It reminds me of how WoW started out fun, but is now {Scrap}, full of unwanted stuff that don't belong, with talent trees yanked out, and dungeons so easy you can do them blindfolded. PGI has turned into this in record breaking time. It's all been downhill since the ECM patch, as I knew it would be the first day it released. And what a surprise, it's still OP vs BAP.

[JingleHell]

PropagandaWar, on 27 August 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

Really. A wish list. How many people want this game made their way which is different from someone elses. As far as the franchise. While I know BT's history and all that fluff along with playing the game for almost 26 years I could care less about it when it comes down to gameplay. Everyone gripes about every other iteration of Mechwarrior and all the faults they have. Now it transends into this game well. I'm not suprised there. I remember when MW3 came out. I remember the game kicked but. I also remember that I had zero input in that game or MW1,2 and 4. But here we with the opertunity to have at least a little input.

The guy I quoted was complaining about a lack of specific gripes. I answered that by pointing out that PGI does not care about what players want. We get nerfs that make no rational sense, we get 3PV that people didn't want, we don't get the separate queue we were promised, Alpine still needs start positions fixed, Mediums are still the size of Assault.

And does PGI care about what people want? No. So why bother telling them what they're doing wrong when they won't admit they CAN be wrong? Even the "apology" for the 3PV SNAFU was insulting, late, and incomprehensible.

I'm not expecting them to make a "perfect" game, or even my ideal game. But I've seen no evidence they care what the customers want, especially when unwanted features go in because an employee's kid can't figure out how to play the game.

So yeah, I expect better results from Santa than PGI, and I don't feel the need to tell them how to fix things when they'll just break another promise, announce another expansion, sell founder packs, and continue until the inevitable legal action.

[DemonRaziel]

PropagandaWar, on 27 August 2013 - 10:58 AM, said:

But here we with the opportunity to have at least a little input.

The last time our input was actually taken into consideration by the developer was when the P2W consumables were introduced and after the 1st major foroum outrage they backpedalled and went with a very acceptable solution (grind vs $$).
But still the 1st step in a different direction, than originally proposed, was made, albeit a relatively minor one (depending on the point of view).

Since then they do things their way and us "beta testers" are used for gathering metrics at best. But it seems to me that an actual feedback is swept under the rug rather then considered and followed.

[PropagandaWar]

DemonRaziel, on 27 August 2013 - 11:14 AM, said:

The last time our input was actually taken into consideration by the developer was when the P2W consumables were introduced and after the 1st major foroum outrage they backpedalled and went with a very acceptable solution (grind vs $$).
But still the 1st step in a different direction, than originally proposed, was made, albeit a relatively minor one (depending on the point of view).

Since then they do things their way and us "beta testers" are used for gathering metrics at best. But it seems to me that an actual feedback is swept under the rug rather then considered and followed.

See this is so untrue. We voted to have the Derpish next and got the Kintaro.

[JingleHell]

PropagandaWar, on 27 August 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

See this is so untrue. We voted to have the Derpish next and got the Kintaro.

No, we got an oversized Kintaro balloon.

[PropagandaWar]

JingleHell, on 27 August 2013 - 11:19 AM, said:

No, we got an oversized Kintaro balloon.

Kintaro isn't that big. It's the phract, stalker and victor that are to small.

[Mechteric]

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they are destroying what should be the greatest game of my adult life.

drama queen alert!

[General Taskeen]

PropagandaWar, on 27 August 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

See this is so untrue. We voted to have the Derpish next and got the Kintaro.

More like the shitaro. Thank goodness for the stellar hitbox designs in the game...

[FupDup]

General Taskeen, on 27 August 2013 - 11:55 AM, said:

More like the shitaro. Thank goodness for the stellar hitbox designs in the game...

I prefer to call it the "Kintorso."

[Corvus Antaka]

Mechwarrior0311, on 27 August 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

I dont understand how you guys are so bitter. I have a lot of fun playing this game with the clan I belong to, we have fun every day. Some people arent happy with the way things are, and I too wish a lot more was implemented at this point than there is, but Im not at the point where im going to uninstall the game and spend the rest of my time making angry posts on the forums about it.

PGI definitely needs to get their act together and release community warfare, clan tech and more maps etc, and more game modes ( Dropship mode ) or else the community will just keep getting more and more upset.

But from my perspective, I quit playing for about 5 months, and when I came back its like a whole new game and now I am having fun again. Maybe you guys are just burning yourselves out.

Also what I want to see pronto is client stability fixes. This game client is horrible at handling any kind of lag, so that is high on my list of what I want to see addressed.

Me too! The game is super fun these days. Lots of mixed mech loadouts, some boats that still do well but need more skill, 3PV is a huge flop and I see maybe 1 drone every 20 games.

We really need ui 2.0 and CW, but in terms of game balance, weapon choices, etc the tweaks over the past 2 months have been fantastic.

The only thing wrong with this game is all the trolls and crybabies.

[BigBadHarv]

so many salty people in denial on this thread <3

the opinions of people with low standards don't concern me. big bang theory is one of the most popular shows on tv in the world atm.. wonder why

[Team Leader]

Blackfoot, on 27 August 2013 - 10:04 AM, said:

Yeah, I think you're preaching to the choir on this one bud.

I have stage 4 Melanoma and I'm disabled. Last year when I heard this game was about to do CB, I begged, borrowed and stole 430 dollars to buy a good gaming rig and get in the founders program. I was so tired of booting up MW4 and 3 when I felt the need for a mech fix. Finally, a modern mech shoot em up totally modernized!!!! I read every insignificant peice of IS news and anything on the forums until that joyous day when the founders were all granted closed beta access.

I'm still here and still playing because I love all things BT as well, but my God PGI has not only dropped the ball, they molested it, set it on fire and THREW it down a stormdrain.

I wish I had not paid anything at all for this game. Even the 30 bucks for BETA access was too much money wasted. Damn my naive childlike enthusiasm for huge, stompy robots that are ridiculously unrealistic on every functional level.

I figure I might as well stay on the sinking ship while the band plays along.

Holy cow, this is me exactly! Except.. I dont have melanoma and I paid $170 total so far :/ gosh what a fool I was/am/are. I think our only hope is to come back in a couple years when they have given up and just put all the game options into player hands and left some servers online. Then we can have the game we want. PGI is not making this game for BT fans, or MW fans, they are making it to try and make new fans. They have turned it into a run of the mill arcade shooter. Its quite depressing.

[JingleHell]

Colonel Pada Vinson, on 27 August 2013 - 12:04 PM, said:

Me too! The game is super fun these days. Lots of mixed mech loadouts, some boats that still do well but need more skill, 3PV is a huge flop and I see maybe 1 drone every 20 games.

We really need ui 2.0 and CW, but in terms of game balance, weapon choices, etc the tweaks over the past 2 months have been fantastic.

The only thing wrong with this game is all the trolls and crybabies.

Oh, so anyone who disagrees with you is a troll, and anyone who gets mad about false advertising is a crybaby? Ad hominem attacks usually mean you've got nothing else.

[Tezcatli]

JingleHell, on 27 August 2013 - 10:53 AM, said:

Well, if we give PGI a wishlist, they'll just ignore it in favor of breaking stuff and assuming that people's desperate hopes for this game mean they don't suck.

I have better hopes writing a letter to Santa. So yeah, until it gets through certain thick skulls that the only reason anyone still plays this game at all is because people have loved this franchise longer than most of the devs have been alive, there's not much point in doing more than trying to make them understand exactly that.

Mocking the devs at every turn just creates a forum of bile. Every time someone posts some constructive feedback. There's multiple responses just mocking the devs and offering nothing in return. And we get all these people who are saying the sky is falling, but once more, nothing constructive in the post. And you're not making them understand anything by basically trying to bully them.

[JingleHell]

Tezcatli, on 27 August 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

Mocking the devs at every turn just creates a forum of bile. Every time someone posts some constructive feedback. There's multiple responses just mocking the devs and offering nothing in return. And we get all these people who are saying the sky is falling, but once more, nothing constructive in the post. And you're not making them understand anything by basically trying to bully them.

I'm not trying to bully anyone. There's been tons of constructive feedback. All of it gets blatantly disregarded by the devs, so now we have cynicism. Don't like it? Too bad. That's what happens. The fact that people are cynical is a good thing, because it means we still have some shreds of hope for this game turning out ok if the right people get canned.

It means that even people who aren't wanting to play the game right now due to poor decisions by PGI would be willing to come back if the people who lied to take our money, which is illegal, while trying to hide behind a EULA that would probably be stricken down if it was tested in court, would just make some shows of good faith.

The only thing unreasonable about that is hoping for a show of good faith from PGI.

[BigBadHarv]

Tezcatli, on 27 August 2013 - 12:52 PM, said:

Mocking the devs at every turn just creates a forum of bile. Every time someone posts some constructive feedback. There's multiple responses just mocking the devs and offering nothing in return. And we get all these people who are saying the sky is falling, but once more, nothing constructive in the post. And you're not making them understand anything by basically trying to bully them.

they deserve to be mocked. "bullying" them. jesus. get out of their ******** would you