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#461 IceCase88

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:49 PM

You have definitely enraged the player base yet again. gg

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Now do not go calling the "local" authorities as the above is not a threat. It is actually a promise... jk. :) Just a symbolic view of what Bryan's "inarticulate" words (or stupid words, whichever you prefer) have done. You might want to hire a P.R. firm to handle the messaging from now on since it is apparent none of your are capable of doing a good job of it.

#462 CutterWolf

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:50 PM

Did anyone for one min think he would say what the real numbers were? Really?? Come on now, there could be a 1000 players a day leaving the game and you can bet your bottom dollar he would of said the very same thing.

Smoke & Mirrors Boys & Girls, smoke & mirrors.

Just wait until there is no CW because they have changed their minds on whats best for MWO and us. Get ready for more, "shut up and color" statements. Hooray! Bring on the "disinformation campaign!"

#463 Too Much Love

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:52 PM

View PostPythonCPT, on 27 August 2013 - 10:46 PM, said:

I'm exploiting it daily son, your elo might need some work.
Oh yeah, those who against it "exploit it daily". Bravo.

In the tier I play, red signal drone over your head means you will receive sniper shot in a second.

I wish they showed ELO on the forum profile to avoid such talks.

#464 QuaxDerBruchpilot

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:53 PM

View PostDrake159, on 27 August 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

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I generally would call myself a member of the "Silent Majorities" however, I feel I must speak up on this part of your post.

Your post implies that just because one group is vocal while the other is silent then they must not agree. While I do not always agree with the vocal crowd sometimes I do. The problem begins when you start to assume that silence simply means that we accept and agree with the direction of the game itself as this is not always the case.

This kind of mindset can be fatal to the games future.

What I propose is to incorporate polls into the home screen or mechbay screen in game. If done right it can provide a unobtrusive way to obtain valuable feedback from both the vocal and silent community. Also since each member can only vote once you will get genuine results unlike a biased forum thread that has been flooded by one side or the other.

That is all for now, but in the future I would suggest proofreading your posts to avoid sounding condescending towards your fan base. (As has been pointed out there were a few line in there.)


Thank you so much for these words of truth!

#465 Ranik Selesky

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:54 PM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 27 August 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

Oh yeah, those who against it "exploit it daily". Bravo.

In the tier I play, red signal drone over your head means you will receive sniper shot in a second.

I wish they showed ELO on the forum profile to avoid such talks.


Oh in the tier you play they actually pop their heads out of cover rather than using it to look over/around terrain?


Maybe you need to step back and re-assess your position here. Because it's becoming increasingly hilarious

#466 Ghost_19Hz

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:55 PM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 27 August 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

Oh yeah, those who against it "exploit it daily". Bravo.

In the tier I play, red signal drone over your head means you will receive sniper shot in a second.

I wish they showed ELO on the forum profile to avoid such talks.


lol, i wish it was included too... And OFC i exploit it. What planet are you from?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:55 PM

View PostMechwarrior0311, on 27 August 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

You see a member with 20 posts or so say something bad, and it happens every so often you also see the same group of people posting and liking each others posts.


Ironically, with this being the first thread that Ive even read here, it seems to be true on both sides of the argument.

#468 Vassago Rain

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:56 PM

View PostMechwarrior0311, on 27 August 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Holy carp, you have over 9000 posts? Anyone with over 2k has a mental illness, but 9400????? Anyway, premium time just helps you get extra CBills and Exp. There is no subscription, so why not just quit now?


20 days 'til release.
I have a quarter of a year of banked premtime, that I'll never use.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:57 PM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 27 August 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

Oh yeah, those who against it "exploit it daily". Bravo.

In the tier I play, red signal drone over your head means you will receive sniper shot in a second.


I watched the NGNG video on Youtube, how do you snipe through ridge walls? Even the guys on that video say to look areound the ridges to avoid being shot at.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:58 PM

View Postdrunkblackstar, on 27 August 2013 - 10:56 PM, said:

Well, when someone starts to use personal offence it means that he has nothing left to say and lost the discussion.


Seems to me when they start using this as a defense theyve loast it as well

#471 Too Much Love

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:02 PM

View PostHollander Burial, on 27 August 2013 - 10:57 PM, said:


I watched the NGNG video on Youtube, how do you snipe through ridge walls? Even the guys on that video say to look areound the ridges to avoid being shot at.
It is called "jumping". In case if you are not aware, you can jump and shoot targets behind the obstacles.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:02 PM

View PostIceCase88, on 27 August 2013 - 10:49 PM, said:

You might want to hire a P.R. firm to handle the messaging from now on since it is apparent none of your are capable of doing a good job of it.


Yes they do but apparently they cannot afford it so they got the same people developing the game, for hours each day, to do the talking. A bad idea, since its not their specialty or job.

Apparently, they are now discovering that investing in a game targeting a niche audience doesn't pay off and think that a desperate attempt to alter the game at this last moment, like forcing 3PV, could potentially attract a larger more diverse audience; which will not happen and can potentially back fire miserably.

If they are finding that this game is not meeting their financial expectations, then perhaps they should sell it to a more competent developer.

I am personally not spending a single penny on this game, until I am certain they are steering this game to the right direction. The only reason I am here is because I am expecting CW, clans and all the cool features but If nothing is coming up after the launch then I am officially out of this game.

I dont like sounding like an *** but I am posting my honest impression about the whole situation and It feels a bit pessimistic.. Hopefully, I am proven wrong during the launch.

Edited by ROJ, 28 August 2013 - 01:58 AM.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:06 PM

Invisible numbers, bold statements, no concrete evidence, and dissmissing a part of your community?

Well done, sir, you truly know how to handle a community.

If I still play this game, I'll be sure not to pay a cent, while still costing you the server's fees.

#474 DemonRaziel

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:07 PM

Something just occured to me. How many of you guys created new accounts, or hopped to their alternate ones they weren't using for a while just to check out the 3PV and see whether it's being used at the lower ELO bracket? Because statistically, that might actually seem to PGI like the 3PV has brought them new players/caused some players to return to the game.

Also, I believe Russ said something along the lines of "Let's give 3PV a week and see what happens". So the week has passed... will we get a separate 1PV queue now?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:08 PM

View PostRotorymaniac, on 27 August 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

I love the game so far, my only complaint is UI2.0 and CW aren't in game yet. it's too bad they don't have enough manpower. 3PV is not an issue, never even used in my ELO bracket let alone being abused/exploited. Weapons are relatively balanced as is and I am very happy with them at the moment. I hope for their sake they are just not telling us what is coming so that people are shocked and happy when stuff is rolled out with launch(i assume is the case, at least for UI2.0).

Lol weapons are balanced. If you think sticking as many ppcs and gauss rifles on a mech is balanced, you sir are wrong.
As for 3pv I'm the hands of a competent player


#476 mwlue

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:12 PM

Russ is very surprised how late this happened, he became so proud of him & PGI discovering this bunch fools that keep dumping money to his pocket while he keep (self-redact-for-lol) them up. He just cant wait to push it further.

View PostSlopey, on 27 August 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

You guys really have lost the plot. I've spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars on this game, but no more, because it's obvious that you just don't care about people who support the game.

Edited by mwlue, 27 August 2013 - 11:13 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:20 PM

So the CB nerf was just a **** you (20 hours for an atlas?) and now you are 'hey guys please stay, we'll give them a buff, we will, we promise'. And then there is paragraph where you basically say we can't trust anything you say.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:21 PM

View PostMustrumRidcully, on 27 August 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

The target demographic has improved, that doesn't mean that there are more players. Maybe their target demographic now contains of less hardcore battletech fans that are not worth to keep anyway, and more Call of Duty fans, or whatever.

I dunno about the new player retention. If they can judge it after one week, maybe it means player retention has usually been lower than a week?

Maybe The statistics are flawed by the fact that many alt accounts are being used to reply in forums and pop in to test 3pv(not wanting their main to be seen with drone)

Also would like to know how they gathered the statistics. Personally I haven't seen 3pv used hardly at all. Many of the usual people you see in matches have not been around(or maybe in alts) and the 1 week of info seems a bit of grasping at straws to me. It would seem reasonable that being 3 weeks away from launch, you would have many returning players to check it out(after all its open beta). New players coming also to see whats up, but in no way is 1 week enough time.

Again its f2p, so popping in and playing a few matches from time to time is no measure of success. Every game just before launch and up to 60 days after launch has inflated player base(nearly 3 decades of testing have shown this to be reliable expectations). The f2p market is also very adhd IMO, so keeping them,and getting them to spend cash is a tricky endeavor that 1 week of info could not possibly be enough judge success or failures.

I would like to see just how much has been spent on PP,MC and etc in the last compared to before patch. Then show how much has been refunded or under pending refund. Last thought on this, How many of the new players/accounts have spent a dime MWO?

Wish MWO the best and happy hunting all
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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:25 PM

It's sad how people act online now a days. Consider that we didn't have this kind of thing happening 10 years ago. People weren't collectively threatening violence in such direct manner to eachother or the developers of the game we were playing. Sure, there was always one guy saying something dumb, and people laughed at him till he left, but there was never this kind of outright hate put on display.

If you're one of the people screaming ilke that, or an apologist for the behaviour, get some perspective into your life. You need it.

Thanks for the update. Much appreciated. Sorry to read the paragraph about the threats. Really deplorable that things are like this now.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 11:33 PM

Thx for the update.

Good to know that you guys know that the shouters/children in the forum are not the majority. (Somewhat sad that it is nessesary for clans to have a rule like "you are not allowed to behave like in the forums if you want to join".)

The data on C-Bills is nice, more of that ;-).

Good luck with CW!





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