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[Miekael]

Aym, on 28 August 2013 - 06:05 PM, said:

Deleted my vote to re-enforce the opinion that this is a HORRIBLE solution to an easily solved problem. Stick to your guns for ONCE in the ENTIRE development cycle of MWO and give us separate queues. IF 3PV is so great you should have plenty of people populating both queues.

Agreed, shouldn't the 3rd person queues be heavily populated with this "silent majority"? Where they at PGI?

[CaldeteisX]

While its nice to see an attempt at a compromise to stem some of the rage and win back some players, what is there to make us feel we can trust your word on it this time? You've said a lot of things before about what we will and won't get, very little of which ends up a reality.

How is 1pv only in 12v12 worth losing any chance of a proper 1pv queue for ALL game modes, it is ridiculously time consuming to get 12v12's organised, and 12v12 is highly underused format because of your game design (see group limits) choices. All you are doing is trying to show us a smaller carrot and hope that due to the anger its latched onto and we forgot in the process that we just signed away the bigger carrot, that we were told we would get numerous times! Lies and deceit again, the ability to spew these two things forth continuously must be at the top of the required qualities for a job with you lot...

[Haitchpeasauce]

And closing the "3rd Person - An Update and apology Feedback Thread" in the process. Not cool PR.

[Dapper_]

And everyone dodged my question because they don't have a logical answer other than "I don't like it and feel entitled."

[StandingCow]

Please make this required reading for all employees, lol:
http://www.gamasutra...nt_.php?print=1

[soarra]

Roji, on 28 August 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

And everyone dodged my question because they don't have a logical answer other than "I don't like it and feel entitled."

[RussianWolf]

Roji, on 28 August 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

And everyone dodged my question because they don't have a logical answer other than "I don't like it and feel entitled."

Many posts about how easy it is to exploit the field of view to see over and around objects without risking your mech. Yes, you may know that there is a mech there, but he may have reported you (and anyone with you) to his team.

[Lugh]

ClanKiller, on 28 August 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

I won't vote in this pole. The way to help the new players is:

1. Proper match-making, so they don't get marauded by far superior players / builds.

2: Proper tutorials that help them learn the game the way it is meant to be played, first person.

1 The player base isn't large enough for it. Or they'd be doing it.

2 Well yes, we've been telling them this very thing for closing on 2years.

[Riptor]

Roji, on 28 August 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

I fail to see how 3rd person is an issue. Who cares if they said something else earlier? The game isn't released (and even if it was it's an MMO) and things are subject to change.

I only use 1st Person and have used 3rd person for 1 game. 3rd person made me play worse and put me at a disadvantage....so what's the issue?

Man... dont want to see your vaseline bill... you really like taking it up the back from the industry it seems.

Let me guess.. you thought that the original xbox one scheme was brilliantly consumer friendly too?

[Mista Whizzard]

StandingCow, on 28 August 2013 - 06:06 PM, said:

I found that interesting... they ignore us and our polls and call us the silent minority... yet they start a poll and ask what we think?

C'mon guys! This could be the start of something GREAT! Polling for opinion on the game? Priceless. If the choices do not accomodate you entirely, you need to indicate that so that they can modify their poll appropriately. Help them-help us- help them!

Whiz.

[Ghost_19Hz]

I didn't vote there wasn't an option i liked. Rarely do i play during hours when i can get 12 man groups to match up with, so i would never get the choice to play my preferred way.

[Lugh]

Roji, on 28 August 2013 - 06:17 PM, said:

And everyone dodged my question because they don't have a logical answer other than "I don't like it and feel entitled."

I understand you don't like to read. Feel free to look at the 400pages of opinion on precisely WHY it sucks.

[HJ Madmac]

this is a first good sign...

[WM Jeri]

This does nothing for me as you cannot always just grab 12 friends. I have no desire to play against anyone in 3PV. I practice with my unit once a week and no longer spend coin here until the hardcore mode is enabled.

Don't want to take 3PV away from them that wanted it just don't want to be forced to play with those in 3PV.

[Zakie Chan]

Admit 3pv shortcomings and give us spilt queues for all modes!

(In a Meme-o-gram format)

[Wolfways]

Roji, on 28 August 2013 - 06:04 PM, said:

I fail to see how 3rd person is an issue. Who cares if they said something else earlier? The game isn't released (and even if it was it's an MMO) and things are subject to change.

I only use 1st Person and have used 3rd person for 1 game. 3rd person made me play worse and put me at a disadvantage....so what's the issue?

Of course you play worse in 3pv, it's terrible (for now).
The issue (for me at least) is that it can be used to look over terrain to essentially scout the enemy without any risk to the user, it breaks immersion, and the founders who put in money on the promise that the game would be 1pv only have been lied to over and over.

We know that games change during development, but you still expect core gameplay to stay unchanged especially when the company states, in capitals and underlined that 1pv players will NEVER have to use or play against 3pv players.


Btw, to everyone who has voted, thanks for screwing over your fellow players.

[Straften]

You make 3PV only available in testing grounds, I buy Phoenix Overlord.

You act like the community wants 3PV and is happy about it, I uninstall.

[Dapper_]

Lugh, on 28 August 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

I understand you don't like to read. Feel free to look at the 400pages of opinion on precisely WHY it sucks.

Those "reasons" revolve around the FOV of it which is fine but it doesn't provide an advantage in addition to the fact that arm lock is forced on you in 3pv. It doesn't provide an advantage because they can see you anyways typically, if they're halfway decent. Arguably Thermal Vision is easy to abuse as well so can I whine about that? No. Because it's an accepted thing in the MW games/universe.

Riptor, on 28 August 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

Man... dont want to see your vaseline bill... you really like taking it up the back from the industry it seems.

Let me guess.. you thought that the original xbox one scheme was brilliantly consumer friendly too?

No, I thought the Xbox One was garbage and still feel that way about it. But the insults show you don't have a logical argument like some of the others here.

RussianWolf, on 28 August 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

Many posts about how easy it is to exploit the field of view to see over and around objects without risking your mech. Yes, you may know that there is a mech there, but he may have reported you (and anyone with you) to his team.

Ok...how is that different from what would happen if you normally get seen. Use Thermal vision and it makes the game easy mode.

[QuantumButler]

Zakie Chan, on 28 August 2013 - 06:28 PM, said:

Admit 3pv shortcomings and give us spilt queues for all modes!

(In a Meme-o-gram format)

They cannot, there are not enough players for split queues, and 3rd person is driving away more every day.

[Hellcat420]

i reported ekman for this poll, i think everyone else who thinks this poll is bogus should do the same.