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Poll: Poll - Limit 12 V 12 Pre-Made Group Matches To 1Pv Only (1092 member(s) have cast votes)

Should 12 v 12 pre-made group matches be limited to 1PV (First Person) view mode only?

  1. Yes (983 votes [91.53%])

    Percentage of vote: 91.53%

  2. No (91 votes [8.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.47%

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#781 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:04 AM

View PostWolfways, on 29 August 2013 - 01:56 AM, said:

If you are going to post please at least get your facts straight....

It was 283 pages ;)

Does that page count include all the posts that were deleted? :)

#782 Hollander Burial

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:04 AM

Why even put in a poll? You do realize the answer is the same on both sides -.-
and theyll be able to later on say both that 12 mans killed 1pv and that since noone plays 12 mans, noone wants 2pv. Never mind that 12 mans was dead to start with
the part that galls me the most is they WILL say "we listened to you" with a straight face, even as they delete/k-town every poll thats actually reasonable and player made

#783 HRR Mary

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:04 AM

Why the need for an "official" poll? Haven't you read your own forums? this particular issue is ablaze since Russ let slip about 3pv in a NGNG interview, and yet you haven't figured out how to deal with it ?

I truly want this game to live, but each time, you make me want to rip my eyes out.

#784 Tolkien

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:05 AM

View PostSam Slade, on 29 August 2013 - 01:59 AM, said:

...

It would appear that this question is in fact going to a higher power. Futher details to follow though probably not on this forum.


PM'd, I'd like details since I consider their handling of founders and 3pv to be pure bait and switch.

#785 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:06 AM

View PostMoromillas, on 29 August 2013 - 02:02 AM, said:

Game design ehy. Ok, lets talk about game design. "Oh, so new players aren't grasping the mechanics? It's not that intuitive? Ah well, **** them. They can get ******." You cannot take this stance as a developer.

You can if you are PGI since they decided not to put in an actual tutorial.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:09 AM

I cannot believe that I used cash for founder on this. It hurts to be a stupid sucker. After this and Tribes Ascend I'll never spend cash on a free to receive lies setup again. Ever.

#787 Wolfways

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:12 AM

View PostSean von Steinike, on 29 August 2013 - 02:04 AM, said:

Does that page count include all the posts that were deleted? ;)

Not even close :)

#788 Szkarlat M

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:15 AM

Just
Test
Splitting
The
Queues.

Test for a week like with 3pv and see if matchmaker has a massive problem with finding games!
If not, keep it. No more QQ-ing. Doneskis

#789 Wolfways

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:17 AM

View PostSean von Steinike, on 29 August 2013 - 02:06 AM, said:

You can if you are PGI since they decided not to put in an actual tutorial.

I believe i read something about the first part of a tutorial coming soon, but i can't remember when... or where i read it ;)

#790 StandingCow

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:19 AM

View PostMike W, on 29 August 2013 - 02:15 AM, said:

Just
Test
Splitting
The
Queues.

Test for a week like with 3pv and see if matchmaker has a massive problem with finding games!
If not, keep it. No more QQ-ing. Doneskis


How DARE you suggest they test something during the beta period! Go sit in the corner until you stop this nonsense!

#791 HRR Mary

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:20 AM

View PostMike W, on 29 August 2013 - 02:15 AM, said:

Just
Test
Splitting
The
Queues.

Test for a week like with 3pv and see if matchmaker has a massive problem with finding games!
If not, keep it. No more QQ-ing. Doneskis


Quoted for truth.

PGI, JUST TRY IT.

#792 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:22 AM

View PostWolfways, on 29 August 2013 - 02:17 AM, said:

I believe i read something about the first part of a tutorial coming soon, but i can't remember when... or where i read it ;)

One of those pipe dreams, like knockdown or Community Warfare.......

View PostMike W, on 29 August 2013 - 02:15 AM, said:

Just
Test
Splitting
The
Queues.

Test for a week like with 3pv and see if matchmaker has a massive problem with finding games!
If not, keep it. No more QQ-ing. Doneskis

Unfortunately, at this point we can't trust PGI to be honest about the results of such a test.

#793 Thorqemada

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:23 AM

I dont Play 12vs12 but its probably a considerable offer - though for the reason i said i wont vote here.

#794 Wolfways

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:26 AM

View PostSean von Steinike, on 29 August 2013 - 02:22 AM, said:

One of those pipe dreams, like knockdown or Community Warfare.......

Tbh i can't fault them for the long time it's taking to work on some things (assuming they are working on them).
Things can cause delays, and they are a small team (around 40).
I'm happy to wait until things are working well enough to put ingame. What i don't like is the lack of updates on stuff that's being worked on :)

I'm also not sure what to expect with the big launch day.
I was in closed beta for an MMO once that claimed they had loads of content ready for players on the official launch day. The day came and.....nothing.
That's when i realised that the "loads of content" was new, for new players. For me it was the stuff i'd been testing for...about a year i think ;)

Edited by Wolfways, 29 August 2013 - 02:33 AM.


#795 Sean von Steinike

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:30 AM

View PostWolfways, on 29 August 2013 - 02:26 AM, said:

Tbh i can't fault them for the long time it's taking to work on some things (assuming they are working on them).
Things can cause delays, and they are a small team (around 40).
I'm happy to wait until things are working well enough to put ingame. What i don't like is the lack of updates on stuff that's being worked on ;)

Yes, if they gave us screen captures, video diaries and such about what was going on, that would be great. But at this point for all we know CW will be nothing more than a spread sheet leader boards and knockdowns might not have had any work done since it was initially removed.

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:32 AM

People are moaning about the wrong things.

Balance - in constant state of being worked on
1st/3rd person view - is fine the way it is and really doesn't give the benefit you think it does
Mechs - there are plenty already and new ones on the horizon
Maps - could be more but we are seeing new ones pop up
UI - fine really, but sure, if the size of your window really matters that much . . .

Now the only thing that really matters right now is a reason to play. We really do need a compelling reason to keep coming back to the game. Half of that is good friends to play with, the other half is the game content: new areas, new mechs and new play modes but most of all Community Warfare that gives worthwhile options to play the game for the vets without forcing them to pay and worthwhile options for people who wish to play casual. And since the coffers need to be filled that means a compelling reason for us to blow our cash rather then just for being allowed into a game mode (since that might fracture community, which is never good).

Both the options of play should give community and personal rewards.

And this, we need soon. I'm quite surprised ComWar isn't ready for release date. Go PGI, I wish you the very best of luck cranking out the content we are all clamouring for.

Game on!

#797 Batch1972

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:33 AM

I pug as a lone wolf because all my friends have tired of this game and left. If I cannot play using 1pv or if 3pv is implemented in such as way to disadvantage 1pv I will quit, which is a shame because I really want to like this game and hand over lots of cash

#798 Fuzzbox

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:34 AM

Bryan,

You forgot a few options for people who cannot get 12 warriors together at any given time.
This makes it impossible to vote with the options you have given, as apparently I am either happy with only have this in 12v12 or I can accept anything as option 2.

Well, it is at least a start?

View PostSteinar Bergstol, on 28 August 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

No. I will not vote yes to this because you've managed to attach in the "small print" a justification to remove hardcore mode from all other queues. Basically hoping people would just read the post title and not the explanation itself. This is practically the same thing as politicians attaching an unpopular bill to a bigger, more popular one and getting it passed by proxy.

This people, this is very sneaky indeed.


You should go back and look at this video, this is the Bryan we loved and believed in.

Edited by Ingrid, 29 August 2013 - 03:13 AM.


#799 Uncleclint

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:36 AM

I can´t vote on this, i am sorry. What if i vote no, does this mean i don´t want 1pv only at all? Cause that´s not the case...

Edited by HAS UncleClint, 29 August 2013 - 02:38 AM.


#800 Wolfways

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:39 AM

View PostNaotaka, on 29 August 2013 - 02:32 AM, said:

Now the only thing that really matters right now is a reason to play. We really do need a compelling reason to keep coming back to the game.

I do have a reason to play, i enjoy the game.
Although tbh i'm hardly playing at all right now due to PGI's....decisions, and my wife quitting, because of PGI's decisions ;)





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