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Poll: 3pv (1160 member(s) have cast votes)

3pv implementation

  1. Mixed queue 3pv 1pv (44 votes [3.81%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.81%

  2. Voted Separate queue for each (484 votes [41.87%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 41.87%

  3. 12 man queues 1pv only, regular queue mixed 1pv and 3pv (95 votes [8.22%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.22%

  4. Do not want it in game at all (381 votes [32.96%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 32.96%

  5. Voted Don't care either way (152 votes [13.15%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.15%

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#221 Jestun

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Posted 14 September 2013 - 11:30 PM

View PostKovarD, on 14 September 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

lol. Niko Snow visited my profile yesterday and changed my forum signature for this one:

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Mine just got removed entirely...

#222 Deathlike

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 09:02 AM

View PostKovarD, on 14 September 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

lol. Niko Snow visited my profile yesterday and changed my forum signature for this one:

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Why are you expecting a company to do the responsible thing when it has demonstrated that it doesn't do it in the first place?

It started way before the complaints about how late the Dev update happened to be.

http://mwomercs.com/...irector-update/

Irresponsibility is not just a common theme; it starts from the top.

Also, isn't that sig pic replacement bigger than the forum restrictions? I mean, admin abuse so you'd get into more trouble would kinda be ironic and sad at the same time.

Edited by Deathlike, 15 September 2013 - 09:19 AM.


#223 Warge

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Posted 15 September 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostJestun, on 14 September 2013 - 11:30 PM, said:

Mine just got removed entirely...

Mine too. So no more joke about PGI and what they are doing. ^_^
It was fun. Still I saved this picture for future use somewere else. :)

#224 Der BruzZzler von Wiesndoof

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 03:56 AM

Option 4 ...
To heck with it!

#225 HammerSwarm

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 05:46 AM

My signature was redacted, Until it's returned I am leaving the redacted they left me with in place so that the censorship can be seen.

#226 Team Leader

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 03:54 PM

I think were stuck with it. It's never gonna change.

#227 pbiggz

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 04:08 PM

3pV is a non issue, it helps new players learn how their mechs move, thus lowering the barrier of entry. Otherwise it gimps your aim and actually makes it harder to maneuver under certain circumstances. Literally the only thing that it might slightly change is that it allows you to see around corners, but the drone compromises your position anyway, and the argument that it makes scouts useless is also garbage, since looking around a corner in your fatlas is no replacement for a 150kph JR7-F actually scouting for you.

So just to reiterate


its a non issue, un-rustle your jimmies

Edited by pbiggz, 03 October 2013 - 04:09 PM.


#228 KovarD

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 06:47 PM

View Postpbiggz, on 03 October 2013 - 04:08 PM, said:

3pV is a non issue, it helps new players learn how their mechs move, thus lowering the barrier of entry. Otherwise it gimps your aim and actually makes it harder to maneuver under certain circumstances. Literally the only thing that it might slightly change is that it allows you to see around corners, but the drone compromises your position anyway, and the argument that it makes scouts useless is also garbage, since looking around a corner in your fatlas is no replacement for a 150kph JR7-F actually scouting for you.

So just to reiterate


its a non issue, un-rustle your jimmies

:D

#229 CrashieJ

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 06:52 PM

if they fixed 3PV to the point where people can use it without giving an unfair advantage then I would have quarrels with it in game

but as it stands, separate the queues.

PGI dividing it's playerbase is dumb... really dumb

#230 pbiggz

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:27 PM

View PostKovarD, on 04 October 2013 - 06:47 PM, said:

:D



All the cicada does in that video is hump the hill, and fyi the drone compromises your position, if you were in a real comp match and trying to scout like that the whole damned enemy team would see you. It offers no SIGNIFICANT advantage, only a slight advantage maybe during pugs if the other team is stupid enough not to take advantage of the giant floating lightbulb that may as well say I AM RIGHT HERE SHOOT ME that floats above you.

#231 Wilhelm Fraek

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 07:40 PM

View Postpbiggz, on 04 October 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:



All the cicada does in that video is hump the hill, and fyi the drone compromises your position, if you were in a real comp match and trying to scout like that the whole damned enemy team would see you. It offers no SIGNIFICANT advantage, only a slight advantage maybe during pugs if the other team is stupid enough not to take advantage of the giant floating lightbulb that may as well say I AM RIGHT HERE SHOOT ME that floats above you.



except that if he didnt have 3pv he would have to move up onto the hill where the other team can shot him, with 3pv your expecting people to notice the tiny little drone. ON a map like alpine it makes a big difference.

3pv should only have been available for the first 25 matches just like the cadet bonus

#232 pbiggz

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 12:12 PM

View PostWilhelm Fraek, on 04 October 2013 - 07:40 PM, said:



except that if he didnt have 3pv he would have to move up onto the hill where the other team can shot him, with 3pv your expecting people to notice the tiny little drone. ON a map like alpine it makes a big difference.

3pv should only have been available for the first 25 matches just like the cadet bonus



If you're a half decent scout then that shouldnt matter. A blink moving 150kph poking its head up for a split second wont get hit by a damned thing, and yes, you should be able to notice the drone, its not hard. And its not like it even matters anymore, 12 man ques are now forced first person, the hard core crowd gets what it wants, casuals get 3pv in 4 man ques, and just to be clear, i dont like or want to use 3pv, i think its quite useless, but i dont care that it's in the game, it makes zero difference to me.

#233 Wilhelm Fraek

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Posted 05 October 2013 - 01:00 PM

there was no reason to put it in people only use now to peak over objects, i see more people turning it off and on during fights then using it to learn how to steer.

Like game many years ago there was this magical thing called a tutorial after that you were on your own, now a days people whine and moan about how hard a game is, sadly if you dont hold their hand they complain even more and it has led to more than one game losing focus.

#234 Cest7

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:16 PM

Still scratching my head on this horrible feature...

#235 Heffay

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:18 PM

View PostCest7, on 07 November 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

Still scratching my head on this horrible feature...


It's fantastic for making training videos and the like. Music parodies, things like that. Check out my sig!

#236 Cest7

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:22 PM

View PostHeffay, on 07 November 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:


It's fantastic for making training videos and the like. Music parodies, things like that. Check out my sig!


I think free fly spectator would work a lot better for that?

IMO 3pv adds nothing to the game.

#237 Heffay

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 02:31 PM

View PostCest7, on 07 November 2013 - 02:22 PM, said:

I think free fly spectator would work a lot better for that?

IMO 3pv adds nothing to the game.


Well, I don't have access to free fly. So for the tools I do have available, it works fantastic!

#238 Hellcat420

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:59 AM

View Postpbiggz, on 04 October 2013 - 07:27 PM, said:



All the cicada does in that video is hump the hill, and fyi the drone compromises your position, if you were in a real comp match and trying to scout like that the whole damned enemy team would see you. It offers no SIGNIFICANT advantage, only a slight advantage maybe during pugs if the other team is stupid enough not to take advantage of the giant floating lightbulb that may as well say I AM RIGHT HERE SHOOT ME that floats above you.


3pv has nothing to do with hiding from the enemy team. its used to scout the enemy team while being safe from the enemy team, and that is the problem. you should not be able to use it to peek over a hilltop without exposing yourself to enemy fire.

#239 Dr Herbert West

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 02:37 PM

Just a reminder that only ~11% of the population is happy with the status quo or would like more 3PV and only ~13% doesn't care.

Why is this poorly thought out feature still in the game?

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Posted 17 November 2013 - 01:46 PM

As much as I advocate giving the Devs/PGI feedback thru polls and balancing threads, do any of us actually believe that:

1) they actually listen (and I do not mean hear)?
2) they actually will hold to their word?
3) they will work in the best interest of the IP, and not the quick money grab?

It's been demonstrated multiple times that they will not. Observe the data, and draw conclusions from the data, not what you want to believe. The very fact that players show their displeasure in their sigs, and PGI "redacts" a players sig to censor it is indication enough.

And PGI, R. Bollocks and P. Inureye, have already demonstrated lack of good faith, lack of listening to the community against their own agenda, and considering any that complain to be an isolated few "living on an island". Their words exactly, that shows their contempt.

Edited by Lupus Aurelius, 17 November 2013 - 02:04 PM.






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