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[Hellen Wheels]

No worries, there is still plenty of cheese to be found.

Rats always find cheese, and they've already worked around it.

Cheers!

[Mack1]

Ah yes, another patch and another step down the easymode road, hey guys, them nasty snipers won't be shooting you anymore. I predicted all this in a video back in Feb when I said they want this game to be COD in Mechs and everyone will be brawling with pretty much exactly the same set up, I got laughed at.... well you're not laughing now are you

Here is your builds guys:

2 x LL
2 x ML
1 x AC20
1 x LRM
1 x SRM

Now let's play Mech Brawler on-line. pew pew pew

[Relic24]

ah gauss time recharge {Scrap} 0.75 sec damn
Was this really necessary??

[Wolfways]

POWR, on 03 September 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

Man all the whining :S Just stop sticking so many of the same guns in your mech and it'll all be more interesting. You shouldn't have 3 PPCs, you should have 1. Sticking 2 in and you're starting to go down a very narrow funnel where there are only so many things you can do. Sitting back, trying not to die to anyone capable of getting close is the primary task.

So the K2 should have 1 PPC?

[slimenator]

Good Patch, ...but

2 Things....for me two nogoes!

1. Gauss- Nerfed to useless.

Why the Hell is this the only Balistic with a Charge now? Where is the sense?

To avoid the Combination with PPCs or ERPPCs!? The PPC Nerf is now hard enough! But to destroy the Gauss no reason! AT ALL!

You will see that almost everybody will skip the Gauss and build in a AC/10....that´s what happen.

2. Walking by Engine....

That´s not infecting the Gameplay, but it just look ugly and rediculous. When i see at start "Jogging" Assaults, pls really? This coudln´t be your real meaning how Assaults should walk.


This is ment as constructive critism, not more not less!


btw. Thanks for Advanced Zoom.

Greetings slime

[Coralld]

xengk, on 03 September 2013 - 12:46 PM, said:

Just finish a few match in my AWS 8Q PPC sniper.
The new heat is still manageable, just need to chain fire the ERPPCs but switching to standard PPCs allows me to alpha without melting.

Advanced Zoom Module is beautiful!!
It is now almost a must on every sniper build.


Meanwhile, my BJ1 Gaussjack still need some getting used to, but she is not broken by the GR de-syn.

Agreed, As I have said before, ran around in the testing grounds playing with my Gauss-Back, took some getting use to but I got it down rather quick. Then took it into a match, did fine, I have no real complaints. Oh, also, my second match I was in my Phract 4X with 2x AC2s and 2x AC5s sense I am grinding it out and got into a fight with a PPC+Gauss mech in a brawl and I actually won. I was filled with so much joy.

Mack1, on 03 September 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

Ah yes, another patch and another step down the easymode road, hey guys, them nasty snipers won't be shooting you anymore. I predicted all this in a video back in Feb when I said they want this game to be COD in Mechs and everyone will be brawling with pretty much exactly the same set up, I got laughed at.... well you're not laughing now are you

Here is your builds guys:

2 x LL
2 x ML
1 x AC20
1 x LRM
1 x SRM

Now let's play Mech Brawler on-line. pew pew pew

So what would that make the PPC+Gauss alpha meta then?

Edited by Coralld, 03 September 2013 - 01:24 PM.

[Skadi]

Garth Erlam, on 03 September 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

[*]Reduce lava damage/second by 30%.

So does it heal us now?

[Coralld]

Skadi, on 03 September 2013 - 01:24 PM, said:

So does it heal us now?

No that's snow.

[Middcore]

Mack1, on 03 September 2013 - 01:12 PM, said:

Ah yes, another patch and another step down the easymode road, hey guys, them nasty snipers won't be shooting you anymore. I predicted all this in a video back in Feb when I said they want this game to be COD in Mechs and everyone will be brawling with pretty much exactly the same set up, I got laughed at.... well you're not laughing now are you

Insta-kill twitch-shooting with PPC's and gauss sounds way more like CoD gameplay to me, if we're going to try to use this ridiculous metaphor.

And hypothetically, why is everyone using "exactly the same set up" with brawler builds worse than everyone using the same setup with alpha snipers?

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Here is your builds guys:

2 x LL
2 x ML
1 x AC20
1 x LRM
1 x SRM

That looks like a build from the BattleTech game I grew up loving. Bring it on, I would welcome it.

[Mr Ezzquizo]

nerf LL spam

[Jakob Knight]

SereneChaos, on 03 September 2013 - 12:43 PM, said:

So people would stop bringing sniper rifles to knife fights

Except that MWO isn't a knife fight, or they wouldn't have ranged weapons and melee fighting would have been a priority. MWO is about position and ranged fighting, though what range the combat takes place at depends on the pilots and the weapons they choose.

So, the people bringing sniper rifles were certainly valid, whereas those who brought knives and not the know-how to use them needed to remember the Indiana Jones Rule.

[Kattspya]

This is why they held back the Orion. So they could sell MC and hero versions and delay the CB ones. Not that I mind, it's just that it is a more reasonable explanation than it being gauss+ppc capable.

[Rhavien]

Great patch! I like it so far.

So you guys really want to know, why the gauss was nerfed? Well it's a high damage, longrange, low heat weapon. It got a higher velocity now, so you almost hit exactly where you aim. I tried the new gauss for some drops on my victor and I quickly got used to the mechanic. Overall I think it's a good decision.
I'm also fine with the changes for the PPCs. My Awesome is a little bit sad now, but I will adjust and make it work again. Already had some games with three regular PPCs and it's kinda cool. I have to watch my step now, but for the sake of brawling it's a good thing.

[sbogo]

and still we cannot hold backspace down in chat........come on people! IT can't be that hard, I can't believe any serious game company or any programmer would not implement this into anything. I could be wrong though, maybe it'll break the whole game if they do it.....

[TheSteelRhino]

Good looking patch notes. Will see how it plays

Ppc's are supposed to have a real minimum and of course they and er ppcs are hot. They are supposed to have those disadvantages. They will still be useful in skilled hands, and it makes Large and er large lasers a little more desireable. And Gauss is no longer such a mediocre weapon. Hopefully it will only explode when it is destroyed while fully charged.
Which means putting on a medium won't be such a risky proposition. Good looking patch PGI. Let's see how it plays.

[Silverlance]

Jakob Knight, on 03 September 2013 - 01:31 PM, said:

Except that MWO isn't a knife fight, or they wouldn't have ranged weapons and melee fighting would have been a priority. MWO is about position and ranged fighting, though what range the combat takes place at depends on the pilots and the weapons they choose.

So, the people bringing sniper rifles were certainly valid, whereas those who brought knives and not the know-how to use them needed to remember the Indiana Jones Rule.

Okay. But what happens when EVERYONE rolls in the same build? Everyone's a sniper? That's the only way to play just because YOU think it should be that way? No. You do not dictate how I play, nor how anyone else plays. Nor do I. So nerfing the {Scrap} out of PPCs and Gauss was absolutely a brilliant stroke. My mediums are fun to play again. I don't have to "can't beat em, join em" anymore. And the tears of the vags is fueling my stomping in their face spree.

Good work PGI. My faith in you is ALMOST restored. Now let's see how you handle clans, clan mechs and tech, Community Warfare and UI2.0.

[Violent Tendencies]

Wow...After playing the new gauss...its straight up ridiculous. You guys made a bad call on that one. Its seriously not fun to play now.

Edited by Violent Tendencies, 03 September 2013 - 01:44 PM.

[w0lv3rin3]

my new cataphract also:

[101011]

Well...nothing bad in this patch, so kudos to you, PGI! Although I would like to point out a few things: 1. Your main page has nothing about this patch on it at all. 2. Your Battlemechs page has some formatting issues, where your MC 'mech category is so bloated as to spill over into Champion Battlemechs.
EDIT: Because I can't read patch notes correctly...

Edited by 101011, 03 September 2013 - 01:53 PM.

[Morderian]

well I love the PPC changes PGI they now feel like real PPcs but on the other hand i hate the Gauss change for a few reasons:

1. the hold to charge makes it a weapon i must have on my mouse key cause i cant hold a keyboard key and coontrol my mech for the simple reason that the Computer does not accept command if you press too many keys it would be ok if it was press to charge, press to fire (like i expected it to be) because atm it ruins the gauss for me if i want to use it as secondary wepon in my mech which is not on the arms bit in the torso and is not bind on an easy to hold key

2. the time you it is ready to fire should be longer now you cant aim at an light mech on it no matter of distance cause you dont have the time to aim correctly especially if you dont have an extremely expensive mouse and extremely good reaction times with click to fire this was no issue cause i always could lead with it good even when running at 100kmh with my Dragon cause i decided when i fired not an mechanic that causes huge delays or unnecessary button holding (which is extremely annoying at 100kmh)

3. the beloved teammates, with click to fire you could easily fire before any stupid teammate of yours jumped infront of your guns now you cant cause you have to wait nearly a second which is a lot of time for your teammates doing something like jumping infront of your guns so you cant fire off the shot you carefully aimed sometimes i even hear my gauss crying to release it in the back of the beloved Teammate so he learns his lesson

4. it changed didnt change Much on the Gauss/PPC thing that was done moslty due to heat increase of the PPCs but it will not take long until certain people will use makros to achive same things as before ignoring the charge time due to makro waiting to fire ppc and gauss that second..... (and aiming out that difference is no problem)

Edited by Morderian, 03 September 2013 - 01:59 PM.