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#1 Grrzoot

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 04:37 PM

Edit topic deleted as it was obviously not a wanted feature.. please delete thread.

Edited by Grrzoot, 08 September 2013 - 05:29 PM.


#2 Tweaks

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 05:42 PM

This is completely elitist and excludes way too many players. Worst idea I've ever seen.

Edited by Tweaks, 07 September 2013 - 05:42 PM.


#3 Grrzoot

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 05:49 PM

View PostTweaks, on 07 September 2013 - 05:42 PM, said:

This is completely elitist and excludes way too many players. Worst idea I've ever seen.


i don't think it is elitist. It is pay to forum, there are ALOT of games on the market whose forums work exactly this way. And there are other f2p mmo's that function in the same manner. Swtor comes to mind right off the bat.

#4 Scav3ng3r

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 05:52 PM

View PostGrrzoot, on 07 September 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:


i don't think it is elitist. It is pay to forum, there are ALOT of games on the market whose forums work exactly this way. And there are other f2p mmo's that function in the same manner. Swtor comes to mind right off the bat.


Look at my forum sigpic, and tell me exactly why I would need to have a sub just to post on the forums. Explain to me, how after spending all that money and NOT having a sub, you could justify saying I should have no posting rights on these forums.

#5 Tweaks

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:05 PM

View PostScav3ng3r, on 07 September 2013 - 05:52 PM, said:


Look at my forum sigpic, and tell me exactly why I would need to have a sub just to post on the forums. Explain to me, how after spending all that money and NOT having a sub, you could justify saying I should have no posting rights on these forums.


Yup, good point. If you want forums to be only for paying members, then all founders should be excluded from this. I've paid more than enough to earn a voice on these forums.

#6 GRiPSViGiL

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:11 PM

I would like a premium time area so actual constructive criticism can take place and get away from the whiny vocal minority.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:13 PM

View PostGRiPSViGiL, on 07 September 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

I would like a premium time area so actual constructive criticism can take place and get away from the whiny vocal minority.



Not sure if srs.

#8 GRiPSViGiL

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:15 PM

View PostScav3ng3r, on 07 September 2013 - 06:13 PM, said:



Not sure if srs.


Real serious bud...the whiny grown men up in this joint are slap worthy.

Yeah, plenty of Premium time holder's are cry babies as well so there would really be no getting away from that.

Edited by GRiPSViGiL, 07 September 2013 - 06:19 PM.


#9 Tweaks

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:22 PM

View PostGRiPSViGiL, on 07 September 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

I would like a premium time area so actual constructive criticism can take place and get away from the whiny vocal minority.

I'm sorry, but some of the most vocal minorities do have Premium Accounts and/or are Founders (which paid up to 120$ + all the premium account time and MC purchases, like me...). Actually, a lot of the biggest whiners in these forums are founders that think they own this game because they paid so much for it in the early closed beta days.

Point is, whether you paid for it or not, it's a Free To Play game, and if anyone can play it, anyone should be able to comment on it or take part in discussions.

Edited by Tweaks, 07 September 2013 - 06:23 PM.


#10 101011

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:23 PM

This entire thread reeks of people thinking that the people who don't buy premium time are the problem. Ignoring the fact that you can purchase something else with MC other than premium time ("Hey, you spent your MC on 'mech bays rather than premium time? You shall not post!" That is arrogant to the extreme), people need to realize that the problem is NOT non-premmie players, it's the incredibly negative and jaded players focusing on solely the game's sore points without being constructive. This game is marketed to be free, so why limit the ONLY community functionality this game has (that 'friends' thing in-game doesn't count, it sucks) to people who pay? Has anyone here ever heard of Vassago Rain? He's a founder, and also probably one of the more vocal 'this-game-is-doomed' people I know!

Edited by 101011, 07 September 2013 - 06:24 PM.


#11 GRiPSViGiL

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:26 PM

View PostTweaks, on 07 September 2013 - 06:22 PM, said:

I'm sorry, but some of the most vocal minorities do have Premium Accounts and/or are Founders (which paid up to 120$ + all the premium account time and MC purchases, like me...). Actually, a lot of the biggest whiners in these forums are founders that think they own this game because they paid so much for it in the early closed beta days.

Point is, whether you paid for it or not, it's a Free To Play game, and if anyone can play it, anyone should be able to comment on it or take part in discussions.


I realize that. There will be no solace from the irrational people.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:31 PM

View PostGRiPSViGiL, on 07 September 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:


I realize that. There will be no solace from the irrational people.

Welcome to the real world,life here sucks so you better buy a helmet.

#13 Tweaks

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:34 PM

View Post101011, on 07 September 2013 - 06:23 PM, said:

This entire thread reeks of people thinking that the people who don't buy premium time are the problem. Ignoring the fact that you can purchase something else with MC other than premium time ("Hey, you spent your MC on 'mech bays rather than premium time? You shall not post!" That is arrogant to the extreme), people need to realize that the problem is NOT non-premmie players, it's the incredibly negative and jaded players focusing on solely the game's sore points without being constructive. This game is marketed to be free, so why limit the ONLY community functionality this game has (that 'friends' thing in-game doesn't count, it sucks) to people who pay? Has anyone here ever heard of Vassago Rain? He's a founder, and also probably one of the more vocal 'this-game-is-doomed' people I know!

Couldn't have written it better. I feel the same way about this.

#14 Tezcatli

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:44 PM

That would just cause really bad public opinion. Even worse then it is now. People act like PGI murdered their loved ones. Their mech dreams, perhaps, but still the hostility is ridiculous.

But I do think some kind of system needs to be put in to regulate. Too many troll posts and there's no consequences.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:48 PM

My personal opinion in the matter is, there should be no "special" forums for any group of people except mods. There should be no special forum for premium time players, no special forum for founders, or phoenix packs, or paint buyers, or champ mech purchasers, or hero mech jockeys for that matter.

Seperating the community is bad bad bad bad bad bad bad. If you wanna be Elitist, thats cool, go start your own forums, as far as the MWO forums are concerned though, anyone who is smart enough to figure out how to login, no matter how much I joke about needing an IQ or reading comprehension test, should be able to post whatever they want whenever they want, and let the Moderators figure out if it's constructive or destructive.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:50 PM

View PostTezcatli, on 07 September 2013 - 06:44 PM, said:

That would just cause really bad public opinion. Even worse then it is now. People act like PGI murdered their loved ones. Their mech dreams, perhaps, but still the hostility is ridiculous.

But I do think some kind of system needs to be put in to regulate. Too many troll posts and there's no consequences.


No consequences? You know, I could have sworn that Prosperity, Helmer, MiSs, and any number of other admins are here for a reason. There are consequences, people just choose to ignore them.

#17 Tezcatli

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 06:53 PM

View Post101011, on 07 September 2013 - 06:50 PM, said:

No consequences? You know, I could have sworn that Prosperity, Helmer, MiSs, and any number of other admins are here for a reason. There are consequences, people just choose to ignore them.


Yes, I suppose. But charging people for using a "special" section of the forum would only create a realistic reason for people to think that PGI are just alienating them.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:02 PM

It seems probable that revoking posting privileges from the founders would do more to 'clean up' the forum more than pay to post lol

#19 101011

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:06 PM

View PostTezcatli, on 07 September 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:



Yes, I suppose. But charging people for using a "special" section of the forum would only create a realistic reason for people to think that PGI are just alienating them.


I agree with you completely here, it's already bad enough with the complete nuking of GD.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:11 PM

View PostGRiPSViGiL, on 07 September 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

I would like a premium time area so actual constructive criticism can take place and get away from the whiny vocal minority.


You are so classy...

TOTALLY disagree with you, because you can not generalize.


Not everyone works or have money and that does not make them inferior in any way.

Constructive critics are always found in every thread as QQ ppl as well, just ignore them or let PGI moderators take care of flammers. But excluding people that have no money to afford premmy is not right.

Edited by Mutaroc, 07 September 2013 - 07:13 PM.






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