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[Sir Herman von Bear]

Hello,
I need some Help.
After Returning to the Game (long Time no play.),
i feel lacking much Stuff and also other Threads are somehow "Old".

My First Mech the CPLT-C4, i use him for "LRMS" and just wanted to know,
is my Build Good/Bad etc.

From my Ingame Exp. the Build feels "Right" im totally Happy with it.
Just want to Hear other Opinions.

So Here is the Build:
CPLT-C4



bad english is bad sorry

[Mitheledh]

That's similar to what I use on my CPLT-C4. The main difference is that I use 4x LRM10s. Then I chain fire them to get a more steady stream of missiles flying at my target. Or I don't waste as many if I misfire.

[Scav3ng3r]

Beares, on 10 September 2013 - 09:05 PM, said:

Hello,
I need some Help.
After Returning to the Game (long Time no play.),
i feel lacking much Stuff and also other Threads are somehow "Old".

My First Mech the CPLT-C4, i use him for "LRMS" and just wanted to know,
is my Build Good/Bad etc.

From my Ingame Exp. the Build feels "Right" im totally Happy with it.
Just want to Hear other Opinions.

So Here is the Build:
CPLT-C4



bad english is bad sorry

If you are happy with it, it's fine, personally I would drop 1 ton of ammo and add a MLas just to have SOMETHING if your ears get shot off.

[Sir Herman von Bear]

Mitheledh, on 10 September 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

That's similar to what I use on my CPLT-C4. The main difference is that I use 4x LRM10s. Then I chain fire them to get a more steady stream of missiles flying at my target. Or I don't waste as many if I misfire.

Im not using 4x LRM10´s because of so manny Mechs have AMS Installed.
So you wont lose like 5-10 Missiles.(Not sure about that at all).

Scav3ng3r, on 10 September 2013 - 09:14 PM, said:

If you are happy with it, it's fine, personally I would drop 1 ton of ammo and add a MLas just to have SOMETHING if your ears get shot off.

I have no Problem without any "laser" id rather Tag,suck up some Dmg,or just Die incase somthing comes close.
(when noother Friendly Mech is near me that could Help ofc.)

[Modo44]

If you can keep safe, you'll do fine. If you ever get separated, expect to die in a hurry to good light pilots.

I prefer having options for self-defense and big alphastrikes up close. My C4 takes LRM40+SSRM4+2xML. I tend to lock my own targets to not waste the relatively limited ammo supply. If you come between 180m and 270m, you're dead in seconds. If you think you can hug the LRM boat, I have a surprise for you.

[Scav3ng3r]

Beares, on 10 September 2013 - 09:24 PM, said:

I have no Problem without any "laser" id rather Tag,suck up some Dmg,or just Die incase somthing comes close.
(when noother Friendly Mech is near me that could Help ofc.)

Your CT has 2 Energy Hardpoints, so TAG and a MLas, and drop 1 ton of ammo. Backup weapons are important, even if you only have 1, hey, I've killed mechs with1 SLas before, 1 MLas CAN make a difference. Whether you want to take my advice or not, thats entirely up to you, I'm just giving you what you asked for.

I'll just say this: Some of the best players I have ran with and against, feel the same way I do about this matter.

Edit: The difference between your build, and Modo44's build is Light mechs will harass Modo to make him stop firing LRM's for a short time, and then run away once they have taken a few Streaks and MLas hits. Your build a Light mech will see as a target of opportunity and destroy you because you have nothing at all to defend yourself with.

Edited by Scav3ng3r, 10 September 2013 - 09:42 PM.

[Sir Herman von Bear]

Well i guess i have to Try it out,
used SSRM,SRM before but didnt liked it.

For the Laser wich one to pick small one or Medium one?

[Scav3ng3r]

Beares, on 10 September 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

Well i guess i have to Try it out,
used SSRM,SRM before but didnt liked it.

For the Laser wich one to pick small one or Medium one?

Just 1 MLas, keep the TAG imo, TAG works for streaks too.

Edited by Scav3ng3r, 10 September 2013 - 09:50 PM.

[Sir Herman von Bear]

Right 1ML it is than, i wont drop the Tag anyways, never go without one.

[Mitheledh]

Beares, on 10 September 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

Right 1ML it is than, i wont drop the Tag anyways, never go without one.

Too useful for locking enemies with ECM.

[Modo44]

Mitheledh, on 10 September 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

Too useful for locking enemies with ECM.

Now, where's the sport in that? Since you have BAP anyway, go hug the DDC.

[Fiest]

another option is 2 lrm15 + 2 lrm5.
Less tonnage than the 10's. Less missiles lost to ams vs 10's. Same tonnage as the 20's, Faster fire rate than the 20's.

Also rejig the ammo/bap locations to lessen the chance of a side torso blowout.
And us the last 0.06 tonnage for 2 more armour.

[mailin]

Yes, but if he hugs the DDC with a BAP, the DDC can maintain ECM cover. I too like Modo's build. As far as the whole 20 vs. 10 vs. 5 thing goes, my missile boat is a Stalker that has 5 lrm 5s, a TAG and 4 mplas. I have the lrms set to chain fire because yes, ams can sometimes take out up to 5 lrms, but they have to go through a LOT of ams ammo. I can maintain a constant volley and essentially bleed the enemies of their ams. Also, by only firing 5 lrms at a time, if I lose the lock, I only waste 5 or maybe 10 lrms. As far as the self defense weapons are concerned, an lrm boat NEEDS them. Probably 1 out of every three combats with my mplas I kill at least one mech that tries to get close to the guy that's keeping up the constant barrage of lrms.

[Enderman]

Fiest, on 11 September 2013 - 04:09 AM, said:

another option is 2 lrm15 + 2 lrm5.
Less tonnage than the 10's. Less missiles lost to ams vs 10's. Same tonnage as the 20's, Faster fire rate than the 20's.

Also rejig the ammo/bap locations to lessen the chance of a side torso blowout.
And us the last 0.06 tonnage for 2 more armour.

If you fire in volleys (all 40, or 20 at a time), it doesn't make a difference.
If you chainfire, you will still loose to AMS all 5 missiles from firing LRM 5, so firing them will be pointless.

A big advantage over 10s is that you are not affected by ghost heat, while 4 x LRM10 are.
And as you mentioned, faster reload rate compared to LRM20

Edited by Enderman, 11 September 2013 - 05:15 AM.

[Modo44]

Specifically on the C4, LRM15+LRM5 vs LRM20 will remove backup streaks, and might run hot when also firing the backup weapon(s). It is still an interesting proposition.

[Sir Herman von Bear]

So i messed around with the ML and to be fair its ok.
I still miss my 1Ton of LRM Ammo but yea even 1 ML can cut of Arms etc

[Autobot9000]

I honestly don't think a medium laser makes a difference. A single medium laser doesn't even scare a spider away. I believe your build is good and doesn't need optimization. You play your role and if you fail at it you lose - what else can you ask for.

The only concern I share lies in getting your "ears" destroyed leaving you with nothing. However in this case I feel it's also good game. Again a medium laser isn't going to make a difference to having no guns.