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[Royalewithcheese]

Here's the nerf: https://twitter.com/...246199259566080

My take is that it's unnecessary, but not the worst balance decision ever. Looking forward to what they do to remove dicerolls from the equation entirely, myself.

[akpavker]

Sable Dove, on 12 September 2013 - 06:19 PM, said:

Here's something: anyone who thinks the old gauss was balanced, and the new gauss is useless, is a low-skill player. No shame in that, but stronger weapons should require more skill to use, generally speaking. Before the recent changes, PPCs and Gauss Rifles were low-skill, high power weapons, while they are now medium/high-skill, high power weapons. Unfortunately, in the same patch, PGI decided to make the UAC5 (moderate skill, high-power) require less skill, and be more powerful, despite it being one of the better-balanced weapons in the game, if not a tiny bit too powerful.

i dissagree. sure the gauss takes a little more skill to use now but....why the hell would you bother. its just over complicating the game.

take a look at this post

http://mwomercs.com/...ating-the-game/

personaly i dont give a **** if another person thinks i have less skill because ill use a UAC5 over a gauss. i just want to get out there kick *** and have some fun......i dont find the gauss fun to use any more. in the long run UAC5's will be nerfed to the point thay are not worth useing and people will move on the another weapon that is more effective and so the nerf cycle continues

[akpavker]

Royalewithcheese, on 12 September 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

Here's the nerf: https://twitter.com/...246199259566080

My take is that it's unnecessary, but not the worst balance decision ever. Looking forward to what they do to remove dicerolls from the equation entirely, myself.

if what your saying that the change to UAC5 will be that you can fire like a AC5 and only have a chance of jamming while double taping i dont see it as being a nerf. its probly the way it should realy be. the only thing missing there is the % of chance for jamming on the double tap.......or will there be some strange machenic for this instead?

Edited by akpavker, 12 September 2013 - 08:03 PM.

[Kin3ticX]

ultras are a joke right now.

heres some derp to spread around;

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0cc732400b73880

who needs armor when you got 36 DPS?

Edited by Kin3ticX, 12 September 2013 - 08:29 PM.

[blinkin]

Shadey99, on 12 September 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

So this is a new one for me... but... How exactly do you fit 4 UAC5s in a Cataphract...? Because I've seen one in game... and if you think 3xUAC5 is scary then... well you haven't seen anything... 20 damage every .75 seconds... The only thing is I can't figure out how you stuff 4 of them in a Cataphract...

you can't the arm servos get in the way. i think the best you can do is 2x UAC5 and 2x AC5, unless something has drastically changed since i last played a few weeks ago. a lot of players run 4x AC5 with chainfire because their rate of fire lines up almost perfectly with chainfire cool down.

[Voivode]

UAC5 is a bit of a super weapon right now. If 25% jam rate is too high and 15% jam rate is too low...20% jam rate?

No? I guess I'll take my logic somewhere else.

[TOGSolid]

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i dissagree. sure the gauss takes a little more skill to use now but....why the hell would you bother. its just over complicating the game.

Because it's even better than it was before and the high shot speed makes collecting headshots a lot easier?

[akpavker]

Voivode, on 12 September 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

UAC5 is a bit of a super weapon right now. If 25% jam rate is too high and 15% jam rate is too low...20% jam rate?

No? I guess I'll take my logic somewhere else.

as much as i hate to say it i think UAC5's will be added to the ghost heat list or there will be some bad game mechanic introduced.

[akpavker]

TOGSolid, on 12 September 2013 - 09:17 PM, said:

Because it's even better than it was before and the high shot speed makes collecting headshots a lot easier?

i found the most times ive pulled off headshots is when im jump sniping and fireing down on mechs this can still be done with 2 ppc's and a AC10.but each for their own i guess.

[TOGSolid]

Not nearly as well though. The GR is so much better at precision fire than the PPC and AC/10 that it's not even fair to compare them. It really is in its own league now. Spend some time practicing in the training grounds to get a feel for the head hitboxes and soon you'll be collecting all the skulls for the skull throne.

Addendum: UT2k4 with the game speed mutator set to 150% and the weapons set to lightning guns only helps a lot. :3

Edited by TOGSolid, 12 September 2013 - 09:42 PM.

[akpavker]

TOGSolid, on 12 September 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

Not nearly as well though. The GR is so much better at precision fire than the PPC and AC/10 that it's not even fair to compare them. It really is in its own league now. Spend some time practicing in the training grounds to get a feel for the head hitboxes and soon you'll be collecting all the skulls for the skull throne.

Addendum: UT2k4 with the game speed mutator set to 150% and the weapons set to lightning guns only helps a lot. :3

like i said in the post you are refering to i dont find the gauss fun to use any more. i didnt have any troube geting head shots with gauss before the speed buff and concidering that i can still get a head shot with PPC and AC10 why would i wast my time with a weapon that has a dumb game mechanic just for that 1 reason?

[TOGSolid]

akpavker, on 12 September 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

like i said in the post you are refering to i dont find the gauss fun to use any more. i didnt have any troube geting head shots with gauss before the speed buff and concidering that i can still get a head shot with PPC and AC10 why would i wast my time with a weapon that has a dumb game mechanic just for that 1 reason?

Because twin Gauss Rifles are way better than a PPC/AC10 combo?

[akpavker]

TOGSolid, on 12 September 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

Because twin Gauss Rifles are way better than a PPC/AC10 combo?

well dude im not telling you not to use GR if you dont want to.

[Sug]

PGU?

[TOGSolid]

akpavker, on 12 September 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

well dude im not telling you not to use GR if you dont want to.

Yet you are taking a blanket, authoritative tone in trying to state the the GR mechanic is absolutely not fun and that it's not a good weapon anymore.

[Demos]

Royalewithcheese, on 12 September 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

Here's the nerf: https://twitter.com/...246199259566080

My take is that it's unnecessary, but not the worst balance decision ever. Looking forward to what they do to remove dicerolls from the equation entirely, myself.

Excellent adjustment, but just curious for the jamming rate. Also, ammo should be increased to AC/5 levels.
The UAC/5 will be then in line with the other ballistcs.

[Drollzy]

Suddenly every idiots a ***** expert.... Sick of all you QQ crying because you got killed... Thats all it sounds like it dosen't matter what weapon was used if you die by it more than twice ina a row you cry NERF!!! Harden up you bunch of panzies... If you die gues what a new game starts get over it and adjust you gameplay. PGI you started this downward spiral by listening to all the QQ's and are losing your hardcore supporters... I am so close to demanding a refund for my overlord and saber pack! Dont you touch the UAC5 and stop the over the top Nerfs or you have lost access to my wallet.

Angry ***

[akpavker]

TOGSolid, on 12 September 2013 - 10:33 PM, said:

Yet you are taking a blanket, authoritative tone in trying to state the the GR mechanic is absolutely not fun and that it's not a good weapon anymore.

free world mate if you dont like people having there own oppinion thats your problem. your troll isnt going to change my mind either.

akpavker, on 12 September 2013 - 06:57 PM, said:

i dissagree. sure the gauss takes a little more skill to use now but....why the hell would you bother. its just over complicating the game.

take a look at this post

http://mwomercs.com/...ating-the-game/

personaly i dont give a **** if another person thinks i have less skill because ill use a UAC5 over a gauss. i just want to get out there kick *** and have some fun......i dont find the gauss fun to use any more. in the long run UAC5's will be nerfed to the point thay are not worth useing and people will move on the another weapon that is more effective and so the nerf cycle continues

this is the post that you conveniently quoted 1 line from oviously cause you just didnt like what i said and is possibly the general consensus of most people playing the game. either way im sure the guy a couple of posts up with the 4 UAC5 jager would be geting 10 kills to your 1 in your twin GR build.

Kin3ticX, on 12 September 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

ultras are a joke right now.

heres some derp to spread around;

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...0cc732400b73880

who needs armor when you got 36 DPS?

reguardless any thing you have said in any of your post have nothing to do with the OP. go troll some where else!

[TOGSolid]

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free world mate if you dont like people having there own oppinion thats your problem. your troll isnt going to change my mind either.

Not trying to change your mind, just pointing out you present your opinion as fact when it most certainly isn't. Pointing your fallacious line of thinking isn't trolling either. The fact that you think it is points to a blatant problem on your end.

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either way im sure the guy a couple of posts up with the 4 UAC5 jager would be geting 10 kills to your 1 in your twin GR build.

I can guarantee he won't due to the sole fact that quad UAC/5 Jagers are a gimmick build and easy to kill due to their very nature.

Edited by TOGSolid, 12 September 2013 - 11:17 PM.

[The Boz]

Royalewithcheese, on 12 September 2013 - 06:55 PM, said:

Here's the nerf: https://twitter.com/...246199259566080

My take is that it's unnecessary, but not the worst balance decision ever. Looking forward to what they do to remove dicerolls from the equation entirely, myself.

...they had a perfect opportunity to get rid of jam chance...