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[ColourfulConfetti]

So, it is evident that PGI is very disliked by a good portion of the player base, when I saw the public announcement for launch I had noticed very many of the players were extremely critical of the weak launch and have not mentioned very much about the good balance that resulted from the patch. In essence I felt there was way too much focus on the negative, though I can understand a very large portion of the MWO community is very angry with PGI. Though on the other side of the coin, I feel they are doing the best they can to make this game a success.

So I want your opinions to be tallied up in a poll if you would be so kind. I want to know if you guys would be willing to forgive past grievances by PGI for the sake of bolstering the player base, I feel with so much hate for the devs of the game, the player base feels alienated from trying the game at all. Would you be willing to give PGI a clean slate for the sake of the game? I personally feel they at least deserve one more chance before the playerbase deems it necessary to openly rebel against this. What say you forum?

Edited by PalmaRoma, 18 September 2013 - 03:43 AM.

[HighlandCoo]

Nobody thinks they are deliberately running the game into the ground.

The fact is PGI/IGP appear to have no clue how to run a free-to-play game.

This isn't a "pay £30 and get game" one-time exchange. It's an ongoing relationship with customers where the burden is on them to entice us to spend money - and they have shown time and again they have no interest in communicating with the playerbase regarding ANYTHING they have planned.

So - no trust = no money.

Lets not even TALK about how the generally accepted purpose of a public beta is to get feedback and refine core features.

1. Not all core features are in yet.
2. PGI/IGP used it as a way to fund the game, rather than a way to improve the game.

So - blatant cash grab covered up as a beta? = No Money.

Does that sum it up?

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

If you want a more honest poll dont make it public.

I chose the option "I dont vote in public polls"

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 18 September 2013 - 03:52 AM.

[Redshift2k5]

Unfortunately this will only be representative of the forum; a huge majority of the players pug away, quite happily, but don't visit the forum.

so far the poll is off to a strong start in favour of the positive response, though!

[Deathsani]

I am not a founder. I am just some open beta player who misses the franchise and wants the game to succeed and I have a question for those folk that answered to the effect of stating that they no longer trust the company. Why are you still here? Life is short and there are an infinite number of things you could be doing. Why persist with constant useless criticism and obnoxious insults behind the shield of the mighty internet?

[ColourfulConfetti]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 18 September 2013 - 03:12 AM, said:

If you want a more honest poll make dont make it public.

I chose the option "I dont vote in public polls"

My bad, I didn't know some people felt so strongly about it, is there a way to change the poll to make it private?

[Kiiyor]

Redshift2k5, on 18 September 2013 - 03:16 AM, said:

Unfortunately this will only be representative of the forum; a huge majority of the players pug away, quite happily, but don't visit the forum.

so far the poll is off to a strong start in favour of the positive response, though!

All the negative nellies are too busy creating ghost accounts to throw 0's into metacritic

[Joseph Mallan]

I am mindful of how PGI IGP is being dishonorable. Say what you do. DO WHAT YOU SAY. Prove it. So far your proof has been disappointing.

[MustrumRidcully]

The third option only applies if t hey don't change the direction.

If you allow multiple choice, the 4th option is a bit redundant.

Personally, I find 3 a bit problematic. Whether they actually lied or is not something we can prove, and so I think I'll base my judgements more on how things are and how they are developing ,without trying to judge whether they lied to me or just changed their opinion due to the honest belief this would make things better for everyone.

Also, I have gotten the impression that they have a problem with their ego, and trouble accepting critique or advice. That is merely an impression, and I think it could be disproved by further options (and is hard of impossible to truth. We just don't have a complete enough picture as consumers from what they are doing.)

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 18 September 2013 - 03:37 AM.

[Grimnir79]

I have taken a break fro MWO for a few months now. Is the time right to come back?

[Enigmos]

I have no significant issues with PGI to reconcile. I think they have done a very good job resurrecting MechWarrior and are on the right track. The 'balance' problems we are seeing are a direct result of their trying to listen to and satisfy their loudest complainants. The time they have spent studying OP LRMs, ECM, PPC, and so on ad infinitum should have been spent on DX 11, collision, and destructible environments but so many of our players have this need to blame their tools for their inept skill levels it has to be seen to be believed. Without the loud drivel we would likely have another match mode and two more maps already. The whiners have nobody to rightly blame but themselves.

Edited by OriginalTibs, 18 September 2013 - 03:37 AM.

[ColourfulConfetti]

MustrumRidcully, on 18 September 2013 - 03:35 AM, said:

The third option only applies if t hey don't change the direction.

If you allow multiple choice, the 4th option is a bit redundant.

Personally, I find 3 a bit problematic. Whether they actually lied or is not something we can prove, and so I think I'll base my judgements more on how things are and how they are developing ,without trying to judge whether they lied to me or just changed their opinion due to the honest belief this would make things better for everyone.

I personally do not think they really lied or anything like that, when I made the options, I made them while trying to remember what most member state as their reason for not liking PGI, I tried to put as many of the reasoning for their hate as possible, though I knew I would not catch all the reasons for hate so I added an "other" option. Yeah the 3rd was a bit redundant I only realized I had multiple choice on when I posted, I'm a little new to the forum.

Edited by PalmaRoma, 18 September 2013 - 03:42 AM.

[Rhaythe]

Founders seem to forget that they are not investors. They are not stockholders. PGI owes them nothing and does not answer to them when developing their game.

Not to say PGI should *ignore* that population, but nor should PGI bow to it.

[Tsig]

Honestly, MWO feels more balanced now than it's ever been, and I've been here for over a year already. I've stuck with this game through Fastbacks, Splatcats, Streakcats, LURMPOCOLYPSE!, ECM Death, PPC ***** Island, and the latest UAC craze...if I could survive all that and still love this game, then I don't see how Cool Shot and 3PV could make me quit when they don't have nearly as big an impact on the player base as the list of stuff I've been through. Most of the founders that ARE complaining need to grow up and realize, they got exactly what they paid for. 1-4 Founder's Mechs, MC, Premium Time, and Early Access to the beta. Nothing more, Nothing less.

[Muffinator]

At this point a lot of people are so steamed up that they are going to react negatively to anything that happens. They probably need to take a break from the game and forums instead of mindlessly ranting. That might even improve the communication so many people say is lacking - if I was a dev faced with this behaviour I wouldn't visit the forum either.

I mean yeah I've had my ups and downs with opinions of the game and the devs sure seem to make some odd choices but at the end of the day the game is fun and I still play it more than any other and I genuinely believe it will continue to get better and better.

[Rhaythe]

Tsig, on 18 September 2013 - 03:42 AM, said:

I've stuck with this game through Fastbacks, Splatcats, Streakcats, LURMPOCOLYPSE!, ECM Death, PPC ***** Island, and the latest UAC craze...

Don't forget The Jagerbomb Crisis of 2013. Because god forbid a weapon configuration be effective.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Deathsani, on 18 September 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

I am not a founder. I am just some open beta player who misses the franchise and wants the game to succeed and I have a question for those folk that answered to the effect of stating that they no longer trust the company. Why are you still here? Life is short and there are an infinite number of things you could be doing. Why persist with constant useless criticism and obnoxious insults behind the shield of the mighty internet?

because they have an addiction and are not healthy (mentally) people.

Joseph Mallan, on 18 September 2013 - 03:31 AM, said:

I am mindful of how PGI IGP is being dishonorable. Say what you do. DO WHAT YOU SAY. Prove it. So far your proof has been disappointing.

make your own mech game if you can do better. Oh you cant you just QQ and rage talk banthapoodoo and still play. (see above) Do you give your grand kids enough candy?

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 18 September 2013 - 04:04 AM.

[Plavis]

Deathsani, on 18 September 2013 - 03:25 AM, said:

I am not a founder. I am just some open beta player who misses the franchise and wants the game to succeed and I have a question for those folk that answered to the effect of stating that they no longer trust the company. Why are you still here? Life is short and there are an infinite number of things you could be doing. Why persist with constant useless criticism and obnoxious insults behind the shield of the mighty internet?

Life is short, you are correct, the issue is since MWO all other alternatives are gone from the table, a bunch of guys created MWLL a while back and it was far more realistic and better working than what PGI is doing, and those guys did it out of passion to the MW BT whitout asking money, PGI is the total opposit, and yes they did lawsuit the people from MWLL thats why they are gone.

So life is short, and the sooner PGI nails its self the better, cose that way another more competent company can take over and we wight have a better game.

Edited by Plavis, 18 September 2013 - 05:23 AM.

[Kaspirikay]

I'll stick to this game until they blatantly spit in the face of free play by adding gold ammo and such

[GalaxyBluestar]

poll is invalid. those who would've voted for the no options are indeed so fed up they don't attend anymore.

we now enter an era of white knight patting themselves on the back as the game slowly bleeds to death.