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[SynAck]

My pings are typically under 50.

I have had times when I joined a "circle of death" with another spider and I was actually leading him (shooting into space about 1.5 Spider widths in front of him) with medium pulse lasers and consistently registered hits. Kind of like a reverse of the lag shield where we used to have to shoot behind them. I do also wonder if damage from ballistic weapons and PPCs are being spread across multiple small hit boxes as well.

I have also put dual ac/20s into a Spider and exploded him just fine. Now I just streak them to death for the most part.

[DemonRaziel]

Mehlan, on 23 September 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

I asked for, have yet to see a spider jock with a 3-4.0 KDR posted up...heck anyone even have a 1.5-2.0 kdr spider?

Well I've 1.79 currently. But then again, Spiders to me are what Commies are to stjobe. Well 5D, at least.

[Hanz Blitzer]

Khobai, on 22 September 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

There are no serious hit registration issues. Only serious hit box issues. Some light mechs dont die because their hitboxes spread the damage around way more effectively than they should. That was the problem with the Raven before it was fixed. And its the problem with the Spider now.

I disagree with you here. I run several mediums mechs with an ac 20. I can hit a light mech with it semi-reliably, but sometimes, it does appear that the light mech does not take damage from the cannon shell. While it is not as prevalent as some people think, it still happens a couple of times each match.

[sokitumi]

Xajorkith, on 23 September 2013 - 04:26 AM, said:

... with PGI's **HIT DETECTION** (I can't type _PGI's__hit__detection__because the forum's naughty word detector reads it as "PGI ****" detection) code with all weapons and mechs!

Wow.. even the forum bot agree's it's **** detection

[Clit Beastwood]

DemonRaziel, on 23 September 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

Well I've 1.79 currently. But then again, Spiders to me are what Commies are to stjobe. Well 5D, at least.

I think mine's at 2.11, but if I only counted the last 60 days it'd be a lot higher

Wasted too much time trying to actually scout when I first started. If you all don't want me killing, then give me something to do. Stop ignoring my TAG. When I ask "Anyone with LRMs need locks" at the beginning of a match... try answering. I gave up on scouting about 2 months ago and switched into full on kill mode. I spent a lot of time prior to that in a very lightly armed or unarmed spider with little/no offensive capability, so I learned well how to dodge fire. Now, I still dodge fire but I shoot back with 3 mpl, or 2ml 1LL, or any other silly combo I can think of. LPL + 2spl is kinda fun. My friends that I play with have complained I'm crazy hard to hit, but the other spider running with me didn't net the same complaints. I'd assume it's because I am better able to dodge fire. Believe it or not, people, there are some pilots better than others.

Fellow spider pilots - to induce further rage in everyone, hit your jump jets just long enough to orient your legs in another direction without moving your torso... when you hit the ground you shoot off in a totally different direction. Instant rage.

Edited by Fierostetz, 23 September 2013 - 01:36 PM.

[DrxAbstract]

Undeniable proof Spiders are not only OP, but a threat to humanity:

http://digitaljourna.../article/271615

[Grandmaster Ramrod]

Mehlan, on 23 September 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

I asked for, have yet to see a spider jock with a 3-4.0 KDR posted up...heck anyone even have a 1.5-2.0 kdr spider?

Only really just started piloting Spiders... I love 'em!

I die plenty in the other two though. Usually, it's when my enemy hits me. When I see their shot fly past my cockpit? Not so much.

[Donald J Trump Kerensky]

They are not super powered magic unicorns...

*Snipped it to move it up so you have the headers as ref..*

Edited by Dimentox, 23 September 2013 - 02:00 PM.

[DemonRaziel]

The 1.79 in pictures (and numbers):

http://imageshack.us...s/546/y29a.jpg/

[Donald J Trump Kerensky]

I am guessing its also play style.. .

[Mehlan]

Doesnt logic imply if they were so overpowered/broken to the degree implied we'd see more, higher scores? :-)
I was running approx 1.25 until I started trying to get the vids/test.

Edited by Mehlan, 23 September 2013 - 02:41 PM.

[Cybermech]

there are some terrible spider pilots.

[stjobe]

Mehlan, on 23 September 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

Doesnt logic imply if they were so overpowered/broken to the degree implied we'd see more, higher scores? :-)
I was running approx 1.25 until I started trying to get the vids/test.

Haven't you heard? This game is Light Warrior Online™.

Lights are the biggest threat, they dominate the matches, they cannot be hit and they solo assaults one on five. Every match there's eight of them not getting hit by anything.

...

If you listen to the peanut gallery, that is.

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

This is my only spider. And I love her!

[Ghogiel]

PEEFsmash, on 23 September 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:

Great video! Very clear hit detection problems, I'll bet that if this was recorded post patch, it was this weekend.

It was filmed Monday 23/09/2012 2:24pm UK time

[Mcgral18]

Mehlan, on 23 September 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

I asked for, have yet to see a spider jock with a 3-4.0 KDR posted up...heck anyone even have a 1.5-2.0 kdr spider?

On my spider 5k I have a 3.07 K/d with 172 kills, 56 deaths in 145 drops. I haven't used it much since 12 mans though. Apparently they improved HSR on the most recent patch, haven't played enough to confirm.

[Mehlan]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 23 September 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

This is my only spider. And I love her!

It's got 8 legs and it's too small, it's BROKEN and OVERPOWERED!

[xMEPHISTOx]

Well if there is a patch tomorrow then maybe there will be further changes. It seems to be a constantly evolving problem not just w/lights but across the board.
Maybe organize 12v12 groups just for the sole purpose of testing...and recording for posterity and OP's satisfaction.

[jtyotJOTJIPAEFVJ]

Spiders are for hoi polloi. The real elite uses Jenners and Cicada's.

[Mehlan]

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Spiders are for hoi polloi. The real elite uses Jenners and Cicada's

Heathen.... Commandos...that is until the locust or flea come out. :-)