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[Odins Fist]

Odins Fist, on 24 September 2013 - 09:18 PM, said:

An XL in an Atlas is suicide...

Mr 144, on 25 September 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

Well of course it is....whether or not that 'suicide' gets 4 kills, obnoxious damage numbers, and a slew of assists is totally dependant on pilot skill.

I would have no qualms on running this with a 400XL as my 'fun' Atlas build....

That's all good, but usually an experienced player needs 20 seconds or less focusing on the side torso of an Atlas to cripple it(or reduce it's weapon loadout), and if it just happens to have an XL, to destroy it. Now I have taken flak for making such statements in the past, especially for the 10 seconds or less claim that I could kill a Catapult back in closed, then Open Beta, I don't get flak for that anymore.
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I salute you for running an XL in an Atlas, and I can see playing a support roll with an XL, but you also reduce the amount of weapons you can handle in terms of whatever you put in your side torsos. If I see a support Atlas I usually harass it as much as possible, if I see an Atlas with one of our lights harassing it, and the situation permits, I go in for the kill if possible.
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Everything can change in an instant on the battlefield, and well organized groups do indeed protect their assaults very well, badly organized groups do not. With all that said the Atlas in any form is a dangerous addition on the battlefield, and from time to time I will run one of my Atlases just for fun as well, and it surprises me that with all the changes made to MWO in terms of balance that the big slow guy is still very relevant.
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In my opinion the Boar's Head Hero Atlas is an easy +10 damage (at 270 m) over the Atlas-RS, but if the Hero Atlas equips an XL, not so much. I could be wrong

[Agent 0 Fortune]

NRP, on 25 September 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

LOL, I remember Moose Head beer! Is that stuff still around?

Sure that isn't Moose Drool? I see it all the time.



Or maybe Smidth (Animal beer)


As for Atlas, I just can't see picking it up without ECM.
It will proabably carry a 400 Engine, but even that isn't enough incentive.

Edited by Agent 0 Fortune, 25 September 2013 - 02:25 PM.

[Duke Hector]

i am 95% sure that the new atlas is based on this one from sarna

AS7-D Atlas Danielle - Piloted by Wolf's Dragoons Captain Danielle Rondema, this modified Atlas carried three medium lasers in each arm, trading away the SRM rack to do so. The additional heat was dissipated by two additional heat sinks that replaced the rear-firing medium lasers.

seems like it with the arm lasers

[L1f3H4ck]

Dan the Ice Man, on 25 September 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

i am 95% sure that the new atlas is based on this one from sarna

AS7-D Atlas Danielle - Piloted by Wolf's Dragoons Captain Danielle Rondema, this modified Atlas carried three medium lasers in each arm, trading away the SRM rack to do so. The additional heat was dissipated by two additional heat sinks that replaced the rear-firing medium lasers.

seems like it with the arm lasers

Nope

Hans Von Lohman, on 24 September 2013 - 09:55 AM, said:

From the lore of the 3025 Technical Readout (the original book, the one with the Marauder on the cover).

Notable Mechwarriors:

Mechwarrior Rodney Van Kleven

A member of the elite 6th Syrtis Fusiliers, Rodney Van Kleven is and aristocrat with the instincts of a democrat. Extremely personable, he is well-liked by everyone from fellow MechWarriors to the lowliest ship's cook.

On the battlefield, Van Kleven uses his Atlas, which he calls the Boar's Head, like a 100-ton scout. He stomps all over the field, creating general terror in the enemy lines and almost always overheating his 'Mech. He has won several land grants, but quickly loses the tittles when his 'Mech overheats and shuts down on the battlefield.

That's the one.

[NRP]

I wish PGI would drop a release date. I'm bored and looking to spend some $$.

By the way, all this Moose talk made me think a cool holiday item would be moose or reindeer antlers for your mech (similar to pet antlers you can buy for your dog/cat/hampster/etc). Or better yet, Viking horns.

[Heat Seeking Civet]

whoooooo more p2w hero mechs. yayyyyyyyy

[Bishop Steiner]

Hey look another troll whining with absolutely zero fact or data to back him up!

[Bishop Steiner]

Odins Fist, on 25 September 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

That's all good, but usually an experienced player needs 20 seconds or less focusing on the side torso of an Atlas to cripple it(or reduce it's weapon loadout), and if it just happens to have an XL, to destroy it. Now I have taken flak for making such statements in the past, especially for the 10 seconds or less claim that I could kill a Catapult back in closed, then Open Beta, I don't get flak for that anymore.
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I salute you for running an XL in an Atlas, and I can see playing a support roll with an XL, but you also reduce the amount of weapons you can handle in terms of whatever you put in your side torsos. If I see a support Atlas I usually harass it as much as possible, if I see an Atlas with one of our lights harassing it, and the situation permits, I go in for the kill if possible.
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Everything can change in an instant on the battlefield, and well organized groups do indeed protect their assaults very well, badly organized groups do not. With all that said the Atlas in any form is a dangerous addition on the battlefield, and from time to time I will run one of my Atlases just for fun as well, and it surprises me that with all the changes made to MWO in terms of balance that the big slow guy is still very relevant.
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In my opinion the Boar's Head Hero Atlas is an easy +10 damage (at 270 m) over the Atlas-RS, but if the Hero Atlas equips an XL, not so much. I could be wrong

True, but then I just take the XL out for something else. Honestly hope it's packed with expensive goodies, since Heroes are priced by the ton, not the content, for some really odd reason.

[Liquid Leopard]

Hammerfinn, on 24 September 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

Dammit, I wasn't going to spend any more money on heroes....

I'm still not going to.

I'm still waiting for a Butterbee. I think PGI doesn't like the fact that the lore describes the weapons in detail, and they can't take liberties with the hardpoints.

[Bishop Steiner]

Liquid Leopard, on 25 September 2013 - 04:02 PM, said:

I'm still not going to.

I'm still waiting for a Butterbee. I think PGI doesn't like the fact that the lore describes the weapons in detail, and they can't take liberties with the hardpoints.

Pretty sure the YLW was pretty well documented.

Also, the Butterbee, like the Pretty Baby and Death's Knell and Boar's Head are all 3025 era mechs.

So they have plenty of room to modify them from the original descriptions. We get to upgrade our mechs, why would these "Heroes" have any less access to advanced tech?

Edited by Bishop Steiner, 25 September 2013 - 04:09 PM.

[Alik Kerensky]

kuangmk11, on 24 September 2013 - 11:54 AM, said:

cold cuts or cheese?

Hungry now... thanks.

[Devil Fox]

Whilst we might see a huge use of these Hero mech Atlas for CB farming, at present I don't even see Atlas as a threat unless they gather into a small mob and push quickly against uncoordinated teams. The low mounting of the weapons on this Atlas means it will be a direct fire support platform whilst pushing up into the enemy frontlines, every other assault has options to use cover or speed successful (bar the Awesome... that Wall shall not be mentioned).

What I AM most interested in is how will this hero mech will hold up against the Battlemaster that will sport the same hardpoint layout, 2 weeks later. Going to be an interesting month for October!

Edited by Apostal, 25 September 2013 - 04:12 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Apostal, on 25 September 2013 - 04:11 PM, said:

Whilst we might see a huge use of these Hero mech Atlas for CB farming, at present I don't even see Atlas as a threat unless they gather into a small mob and push quickly against uncoordinated teams. The low mounting of the weapons on this Atlas means it will be a direct fire support platform whilst pushing up into the enemy frontlines, every other assault has options to use cover or speed successful (bar the Awesome... that Wall shall not be mentioned).

What I AM most interested in is how will this hero mech will hold up against the Battlemaster that will sport the same hardpoint layout, 2 weeks later. Going to be an interesting month for October!

I must say though, on those rare occasions the other team supports their "Atlas Linebacker Blitz", the dang things can be pretty brutal!

[Stunner]

Bishop Steiner, on 24 September 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

might want this argument to be accurate before pinning your hope on it.
http://kotaku.com/59...can-play-drizzt
OK, let's see, $200 bucks, oh and btw, it's a BETA (ending the argument that "if you can spend real money it's not a bETA)
(more on the model here: http://www.rockpaper...ks-neverwinter/)
or the American M60 in WOT, as 22,500 gold being about 95 USD.
http://wiki.worldoft...m/Premium_Tanks

Let's not forget Star Citizen where some folks are dropping $250 and more for just one ship and the game isn't even in alpha yet.

[SICk Nick]

I bet you they wont make it "better" than an RS. The BH will likely have 1 Ballistic and 1 Missile, where the RS has 2 missile.

So you trade 1 missile for 2 energy....big deal...

[SgtMagor]

it has to be the Danielle, 6med laser, ac20, lrm20. can it carry 2 ac20 is the Question?

[Muffinator]

I love the idea of AC20, 1-2 SRMs (?) and 6ML but on paper it looks like it'll run dang hot. Takes a 350 engine comfortably though.

[Zplayer]

Was kinda hoping for a Catapult Hero Mech but I can see this one being very popular

Edited by Zplayer, 26 September 2013 - 04:03 AM.

[CDLord HHGD]

SgtMagor, on 26 September 2013 - 01:17 AM, said:

it has to be the Danielle, 6med laser, ac20, lrm20. can it carry 2 ac20 is the Question?

No, only place with ballistics is in the side torso. Their picture puts it in the left instead of the right but I agree with an earlier post that the image is just mirrored (based on the word on the arm).

[Xeno Phalcon]

About time but this is going to be one EXPENSIVE mech, as hero mechs are 75MC per ton your looking at (derp) 7500MC or something in the ballpark of $35