Bulde, on 15 March 2014 - 04:25 PM, said:
Oh really? How so? Explain. You can't artificially inflate your ladder rank man. You either earn it or you don't.
Because that`s never, ever been done in teh history of videogaming, and noboody has ever earned moiney doing it, right?
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Last I checked this is a video game, its all about "e-peening" if thats what you want to call it.
We apparently may not be playing the same game or for the same reasons.
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There is an equal and opposite side to your opinion on this.
I never stated the opposite, thank you.
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You call one group "elitest jerks"...well, that group can say the same thing about casual carebears...
Those two things are in no way mutually exclusive. It is entirely possible to be a internet "I`m better than you" jackass and a casual player at the same time
Just as it is possible to be a competitive player but understand that
1. The primary goal of the long term game is factioon supremacy, not personal heroism.
2. have witnessed in numerous games how already asshattish "we`re better than you because we say we art" community stupidity takes on a whole new level (as does the whiniong about "i did this and this and such and such, why isn`t my rank higher" whining, today`s version being "I`m awesome, look at my stats, why do I keep getting matched with the scrubs?"
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This is funny to me. Can you really not play the game knowing that you are not at the top of the ladder? I almost did NOT play this game because there is no ladder! Furthermore, if a ladder system is not implemented soon, I would imagine a huge number of players eventually leaving the game as a result of it having a complete lack of end game. At least with a ladder you DO have a form of end game. There is a goal. Right now there is nothing to strive for. You actually lose community without having something like this in place. I have seen it before in other games. People will eventually get tired of having nothing to aim for. The achievement system they have announced, while its a nice gesture, is just not going to cut it. Its a poor attempt at offering something to strive for. Most players won't care about those achievements and a lot of people will likely have them done in a week or two.
Yes, we are very obviously not playing the game for the same reasons, and you are misinterpreting my statement entirely and crudely, ironically resulting in a textbook example of the aforementioned elitist jerkism.
The thing is that if you implement a ladder system now, before the main CW feature set, you turn the game into what it was never meant to be and has already drifted far too far in the direction of, another quake wannabe like the thousands that have already failed. Many of them failed because when the actual promised goals came, people were already so preconcerned with being the single best, the entire community feature set was a was a complete waste oif effort. And the game eventually died out when all the impatient and short attentioned "Conquer this game next month and say it`s awesome, fail at the next tomorrow and say it sucks" players got pissed about it not being quake but requiring so much more attention to be successful in numerous aspects of the game simultaneously.
Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, and this is one lesson PGI and MWO do not need to learn. Nor waste the time and money learning.
However, Public ladders DO make a lot of sense when we have an actual Solaris gamemode specifically designed for those that just "have to know" where they stand (usually only as long at it`S relatively high, but that`s a different discussion) and those that want to watch gladiator slugfests.
But it does not make sense to turn any game from Chess into boxing prematurely just because some of the pieces aren`t finished yet.
In closing, there are also numerous leagues that already exist that will start to flourish with the advent of the launch module. They have ladders, so the reason to implement a global ladder is further diminished. Those that want to measure themselves will have ample opportunity to do so very soon.
And BTW, that post you quoted is over a year old, and the duplicate thread you started is entirely unnecesary after bumping and responding to this one... great way to make a good first impression.
Edited by Zerberus, 15 March 2014 - 05:28 PM.