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[Chavette]

One thing: The remaining time decreasing with every person that hits ready would be nice. This would stop 1 guy from making 23 wait for 1 minutes.

[1Sascha]

One game with ready button and already I had to wait an entire minute for game-start because of two guys who decided to wait to the last second or not push it at all.

Remind me: Why do we need this feature again?

Considering this game (just like any other free online-game) has its fair amount of self-appointed "jokers", you might as well include a soundboard-key that plays fart-noises on everyone's front-ends.


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Edited by 1Sascha, 02 October 2013 - 12:50 AM.

[Arcaist]

So much puny whine...get used to it,
If you want instant action, play CoD or sumthin like that.

Some people actually want that time to set up groups, talk about a tactic and stuff.

[Arcaist]

@1Sascha: To remind you: for setting out lances, talking about tactics and so on...actually that kinda stuff, that
makes a difference to CoD.

[wickwire]

Slimspadey101, on 01 October 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

<p>Personally, I think it's fine. Noobs are asking why. This means that they will seek an answer, and realize that this game actually is team oriented. Hopefully, as it sets in, people will start to coordinate a little better in pugs. Also, it gives those who are experienced a chance to try and bring order to their team and/or lance. The slightly increased waiting time for a match to start is worth it imo. Not sure how anyone can complain about 45 secs. Sounds like a personal problem.</p>

okay, but then let the company commander put orders on the little map please?

[METAL SEPARATOR]

Personally I think the Ready button is what this game is missing. Actually I was going to post my question and suggestion to add such a ready button on the next ask the devs question marathon. (really). Since while I wait for the game to be found, I start reading something on the internet, then suddenly the game goes fullscreen when it finally finds the game, while I'm already reading news or an article. That is a bit irritating. The button should be displayed before the game goes fullscreen. The way it is implemented now is simply pointless to the point of stupidity.

[1Sascha]

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for setting out lances, talking about tactics and so on...actually that kinda stuff, that
makes a difference to CoD.

Riiight.

EDIT:

Just FYI: The only "tactics" that have been discussed thus far in my matches were "wake up guys! press the ready button!!"

You want to discuss tactics and coordinate with team-mates? Download TS and drop a 4-man. I use radio-chat for stuff like calling out contacts or calls for help, too. But in my experience, people just don't read the damn thing.



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Edited by 1Sascha, 02 October 2013 - 01:44 AM.

[John MatriX82]

A lot of people are alt+tabbed during loading and this is tremendously annoying. Rather than this give the option to arrange lances during the mech's start up sequence!

[FREDtheDEAD]

What a WEIRD new feature!

No one actually discusses anything except yelling at people who don't press ready or complaining about the feature.

Then someone will take command who is evidently not suited to the role. There should be a minimum GXP or 'games played' limit before you are allowed to take command.

Who thought of this and why? Was there a problem before that needed addressing? Is this a small step towards CW?

Why is it all so annoying? Well, obviously it's because we internet gamers are fundamentally annoying people - borderline personality disorder psychopaths to the last. So, why did PGI exacerbated this by encouraging us to express ourselves, inevitably leading to bitter insults and mass confusion?

[sC4r]

well the ready button by itself is nice thing
the BAD thing is the timer... like come on 60 seconds?

cut it down to 30 or 20 and it ll make lots of peeps happy

[Too Much Love]

It is annoying, It doesn't do any good. So it should be removed.

1) Who asked for it?

2) What benefits does it provide?

3) Why PGI mends things that work properly?

Longer searching time + 1 or more minutes waiting makes thing much worse.

I understand what longer searching time for, but this annoying useless button?

Please, remove it!

[1Sascha]

Xajorkith, on 02 October 2013 - 02:01 AM, said:

What a WEIRD new feature!

No one actually discusses anything except yelling at people who don't press ready or complaining about the feature.

Then someone will take command who is evidently not suited to the role. There should be a minimum GXP or 'games played' limit before you are allowed to take command.

Who thought of this and why? Was there a problem before that needed addressing? Is this a small step towards CW?

Why is it all so annoying? Well, obviously it's because we internet gamers are fundamentally annoying people - borderline personality disorder psychopaths to the last. So, why did PGI exacerbated this by encouraging us to express ourselves, inevitably leading to bitter insults and mass confusion?

Hush, now! You are *obviously* one of those non-skill00rz, who want to turn MWONL into another CoD.

<Sarcasm off>

As if this game had anything to do with tactics on your average pug-match.. lol. You just need a few matches on Terra Therma with its customary "conga-line-of-death-towards-the-center" to realize that.

The fact that the radio-chat is only displayed for a few seconds and is not scrollable or anything doesn't help either. It's a pretty useless tool, ignored by most players. I'd bet that a lot of guys don't even know where to look for it, simply because it'll fade out and is not very noticeable when it *is* actually displayed.

Why not make the radio-buffer something like this? (old screenshot of an old game):



You could place that thing anywhere you wanted it on your screen, you could expand/reduce its size (lines displayed) *and* you could scroll it.


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Edited by 1Sascha, 02 October 2013 - 03:01 AM.

[Nevimir]

is that screen shot form battleground europe.

[FREDtheDEAD]

"The fact that the radio-chat is only displayed for a few seconds and is not scrollable or anything doesn't help either. It's a pretty useless tool, ignored by most players. I'd bet that a lot of guys don't even know where to look for it, simply because it'll fade out and is not very noticeable when it *is* actually displayed."

Yes. I hoped this would have been fixed ages ago. It never was. It needs a topic in itself to bring it to the attention of PGI. I can't read chat and instructions that last 2 seconds and can't be read when they appear (due to colour problems that were never corrected).

Edited by Xajorkith, 02 October 2013 - 03:30 AM.

[1Sascha]

unrealluke, on 02 October 2013 - 03:05 AM, said:

is that screen shot form battleground europe.

Word War 2 Online, yeah. Taken in .err.. 2004, IIRC.


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[Scandinavian Jawbreaker]

Xajorkith, on 02 October 2013 - 03:28 AM, said:

Yes. I hoped this would have been fixed ages ago. It never was. It needs a topic in itself to bring it to the attention of PGI. I can't read chat and instructions that last 2 seconds and can't be read when they appear (due to colour problems that were never corrected).

Gonna be on UI2.0 me thinks.

I have no idea why the ready-button is in pub matches. Might as well exploit the heck out of it and see how much rage and TK's occur. Ie not readying up and mixing up the lances for 4-mans.

[Electron Junkie]

Just get rid of it already... So annoying...

At least make an option to "Auto Ready" on drop

Edited by Electron Junkie, 02 October 2013 - 05:26 AM.

[Gauvan]

I don't think it needs to be removed--it's too useful a feature for 12v12 premades. But, I think that's a really small part of the player base. It adds little I can see to PUGs or PUGs with lance-sized premades. I would argue that it detracts from that audience's experience.

The problem with the current ready button is that it takes only one player who is inattentive, rude or trolling to keep the other 23 people waiting. There are good odds that this will happen consistently in PUGs. One fix would be to force drop after a majority (say 2/3) of members on each team click ready--the majority would have to contain the commander (if any) as an accommodation to large pre-mades.

The problem with the current command function is less acute, but it's more of a hindrance in PUGs than a help. There are two distinct issues.

First, as has been noted by other posters in different ways, there is no basis for evaluating the volunteer commander in a PUG scenario. Having some barrier to entry is probably good. Even then, I worry that it just becomes an excuse for drama. Even a competent leader is going to lose and when that happens the minority of rude players is going to heap abuse on them.

Second, the ability to reorganize lances doesn't mesh with PUG play. It would be far more helpful, in my opinion, to have some intelligent automatic sorting--grouping by weight class as best as possible, for example, with premade lances excluded. At least indicate pre-made groups in the UI so a commander can make more informed sorting decisions.

[Razuko]

This feature is just a nuisance in it's current implementation. It either needs added functionality, timer shortened, or removed from non 12v12 entirely. Really all this does atm is hinder speed grinding. Afkers aren't really a problem in mwo from the majority of games I've played. Disconnects are a different story... I will give it one upside though, last night a teammate crashed to desktop when we launched and he was able to jump back in to the pre fight screen and ready up\fight with us still.


Alt+Tab when hearing mech startup sequence is OP.

[Deacon412]

ill only ever wait 30 seconds and then i'll just alt f4 and restart :/